Fall 2009 Anime Season of Mononoke's Nakamura Kenji Strikes Back!

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Dresden said:
The art style is very similar to One Piece, and Natsu for the most part is a poor man's Luffy. Asides from that, though, it's a decent shounen series... definitely not up to par with One Piece, though.
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Ah well... at least it'll be easier to jump into than the other shows.
 
Gilgamesh said:
I went in with really high expectations because I loved Higurashi and came away really disappointed. It's probably making me more critical of it than I should be.
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I started watching it because I loved Higurashi as well, but ended up loving Umineko more.
Then again, I watch it kind of as a neautral bystander.
I consider what is on screen to be merely "decoy". The fact I see Beatrice do something doesn't mean that is really how it happened. It could be, it could be not, which makes the whole battle for denying magic/accepting magic alot cooler to follow.
 
Lain said:
I started watching it because I loved Higurashi as well, but ended up loving Umineko more.
Then again, I watch it kind of as a neautral bystander.
I consider what is on screen to be merely "decoy". The fact I see Beatrice do something doesn't mean that is really how it happened. It could be, it could be not, which makes the whole battle for denying magic/accepting magic alot cooler to follow.
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Pretty much. It's easy to 'surrender' and accept Beatrice's word that this is all magic and she's a witch; but as
Virgilis
tells
Battler
, just because one solution seems obvious doesn't mean that the other is any less false, unless proof is offered; unless you peer into its inner workings, how can you determine if its magical or not?
 
Kandrick said:
Strange i dont know... but yeah, i am liking it so far too :lol
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gundam references, a rider clone, explosions, guys turning into girls, epic transformation sequences, multiple personalities, everythings sexual innuendo and the stupid dance.

whats not to like?
 
Lain said:
If Batler denying magic really pisses you off so much, I don't think you're gonna like the other episodes.
I mean, you should go ahead and keep watching for what happens after 5, but since denying magic is an important part of the show, the topic will come up again and again.
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I got to episode 5 and gave up for the same reasons, but I wouldn't mind some clarification of where the show's going with it or if my understanding is just wrong, because otherwise I won't be picking the show back up again. I will spoiler bar this even though the episodes in question have aired loooong ago.

The way it seems to be phrased in episode 5, Battler thinks that there is no such thing as magic whatsoever - not just that the Rokkenjima murders are completely natural. I can almost accept this, even in conjunction with Beatrice's appearance, the spontaneous dismemberment of the other family members in the afterlife, and Beatrice's conversations with Frederika - if we accept that we are in the afterlife/metaverse where such things CAN happen, and that Battler only believes magic doesn't exist in the real world, otherwise the whole thing falls apart in my eyes.

But how does Battler managing to prove that the Rokkenjima murders were natural disprove the existence of magic? That's really dodgy, almost inductive, reasoning - one counter-example doesn't disprove the whole hypothesis. And what of the golden butterflies?

If I've misunderstood completely and Battler is happy to accept the possibility of supernatural forces as long as they didn't cause the murders that's fine. But as it is it makes my head hurt :(

I'm amazed that so many people complain about this show being slow. I think Umineko could be interesting if I watch any further, but the first five episodes do drag on rather a lot, when realistically it's only interesting to watch when people are murdered - just like Higurashi was only interesting when the kids were being psycho (IMHO.)
 
Jason said:
Blue Literature was a snooze fest. Reminds me of Kurozuka with its slow and methodical pacing.
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I finally watched the first episodes and I really liked it. Don't get where the "snooze fest" is coming from, it's a drama series based on Japanese literature. Not, you know, Kampfer or something of that nature.
 
I think it was partially due to the fact that I had watched Zombieland and a Korean disaster movie (Haeundae) earlier that day. :lol

The second episode was a bit more interesting with the
supernatural stuff
but it's still not doing anything for me.
 
Fairy tail EP 2 had a character that looks exactly like ichigo from bleach. This show is weird, it feels like a awful hack job of current shonen. I can't wait to see a ninja with whiskers and some talking armor.
 
I should be doing hw said:
I really wish this anime was what I wanted it to be. I've never 180'd this much on something, I really loved Umineko up to this point. Also my point on pretentiousness hasn't been answered yet, does this
breaking the fourth wall bullshit
persist after this episode?
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Just 1 thing. Bernkastel wasn't talking to you, the viewer. She was addressing Battler.
But no, it hasn't happened anymore.

BluWacky said:
The way it seems to be phrased in episode 5, Battler thinks that there is no such thing as magic whatsoever - not just that the Rokkenjima murders are completely natural. I can almost accept this, even in conjunction with Beatrice's appearance, the spontaneous dismemberment of the other family members in the afterlife, and Beatrice's conversations with Frederika - if we accept that we are in the afterlife/metaverse where such things CAN happen, and that Battler only believes magic doesn't exist in the real world, otherwise the whole thing falls apart in my eyes.

But how does Battler managing to prove that the Rokkenjima murders were natural disprove the existence of magic? That's really dodgy, almost inductive, reasoning - one counter-example doesn't disprove the whole hypothesis. And what of the golden butterflies?

If I've misunderstood completely and Battler is happy to accept the possibility of supernatural forces as long as they didn't cause the murders that's fine. But as it is it makes my head hurt :(
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Battler simply doesn't believe in magic period.
Is Battler able to accept the possibility of magic or supernatural forces existing? Sure, as that is part of the game.
If either side wouldn't admit defeat in the face of undeniable proof, then it would be kind of meaningless.

I'll say this, since the 5th episode is the end of the first arc, when the battle begins, stopping there is foolish imho.
I've loved every single episode, so I'm biased, but at least watching the second arc, if you liked the first, is needed, as it gives some answers to what you were wondering.
 
Lain said:
Just 1 thing. Bernkastel wasn't talking to you, the viewer. She was addressing Battler.
But no, it hasn't happened anymore.

Battler simply doesn't believe in magic period.
Is Battler able to accept the possibility of magic or supernatural forces existing? Sure, as that is part of the game.
If either side wouldn't admit defeat in the face of undeniable proof, then it would be kind of meaningless.

I'll say this, since the 5th episode is the end of the first arc, when the battle begins, stopping there is foolish imho.
I've loved every single episode, so I'm biased, but at least watching the second arc, if you liked the first, is needed, as it gives some answers to what you were wondering.
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Okay I will give it a shot after this. Thank god she wasn't adressing me, that makes it so much better that you won't believe.
 
Fairy Tail continues to disappoint. The show has an over reliance on the magic circles to portray spells. Then there's the poor, or lack of, animation. Every time someone performs an attack, it's done with a flash of the screen to show that the attack took place. (ie. Natsu swings his fist followed by a screen flash, and enemy flies away; you never actually see him punching anyone)

Oh yeah, Happy STILL annoys me everything he (she) speaks. I don't think I've ever heard a worse VA cast before. I can tolerate everything about the show but Happy.
 
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Are they paying attention to anything in this adaption? :lol
 
grandjedi6 said:
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Are they paying attention to anything in this adaption? :lol
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Yeah, the adaption is pretty bad. It's obvious they're not even trying to make this a close adaption. Besides, the manga isn't nearly as far as they need to it be for a long series. Unless, they decide to put in a ton of filler arcs, which I could see happening, considering the whole guild mission premise.
 
ninj4junpei said:
>:| Not soon enough.

On a side note, what's your avatar from?
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You mean, the robot? It's from a Lagann-hen promotional poster.

Pein said:
thats Nia's gunmen from gurren lagann. I think its only appears in art books.
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She uses it in the second movie, actually.
 
Hey guys, let me start off by saying I know I'm about to sound like the average newbie looking for some seemingly easy advice and a question that you all have seen dozens of times. No matter what forum or sub culture you check with on a daily basis there are always a bunch of the same questions... I guess I'm that guy in this case. Anyway, maybe I can get more than "ahh, this shit again" comment by saying that I know exactly that feeling. :lol

For one reason or another, I've been feeling that the weekly shows I can check on and enjoy have been winding down to next to nothing as of late. So my reaction was to turn back to anime, which I've been watching on and off for a long time. Here's another problem though, it seems the latest Adult Swim shows are garbage.

My favorite stuff has been: Ghost In The Shell, Cowboy Bebop, Fooly Cooly. I've seen a bunch of other usual suspects besides those, but would not put them up with those 3. So, do I just start searching for whatever those directors have done since or do you guys have something in mind to point me in the right direction?
 
I'd check out:

Bakemonogatari

Umineko

Mononoke

Those are the three best anime in recent years, but that's just my opinion.

Darker Than Black is also great, but it's not up to Ghost in the Shell's level. Still, a good watch and the second season is just coming out.

Also--have you checked out Gurren Lagann? I think it's be the anime of the 2000's, if we look back on it. Although that might just be me hyped up again from watching it when it first came out.

(problem with searching for directors is that in the case of GitS, I don't think he's done anything other than Appleseed since, which was mediocre. Unless you're talking about SAC?)
 
TTG said:
My favorite stuff has been: Ghost In The Shell, Cowboy Bebop, Fooly Cooly. I've seen a bunch of other usual suspects besides those, but would not put them up with those 3. So, do I just start searching for whatever those directors have done since or do you guys have something in mind to point me in the right direction?
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i think you might enjoy Baccano
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kshRUZzo1gQ
 
Dresden said:
(problem with searching for directors is that in the case of GitS, I don't think he's done anything other than Appleseed since, which was mediocre. Unless you're talking about SAC?)
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That's a real shame. I'll make sure to post what catches my eye as I go through your list. Thanks.


S. L. said:
i think you might enjoy Baccano
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kshRUZzo1gQ
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Going by that and a few other clips on youtube.... Looks awesome. I'll try to get a hold of this first.
 
XiaNaphryz said:
For any NFL fans out there, this bloggers posts his impressions of Fall 09 anime shows by comparing them with NFL starting quarterbacks.

Inuyasha Final, Yumeiro Patissiere, Natsu no Arashi, Sunred, Cool and Spicy, Miracle Train, White Album, Haruka Nogizaka’s Secret, Tegami Bachi, Koihime Musou, and Queen’s Blade all fell under "JaMarcus Russell."
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That's one of the worst lists I've seen. Natsu no Arashi is Russell? And how is Sora no Otoshimono so high? Kampfer and Asura Cryin over Trapeze, which he doesn't like because it's 'gay'? And Darker Than Black is inferior to Railgun?

Terrible taste.
 
Dresden said:
That's one of the worst lists I've seen. Natsu no Arashi is Russell? And how is Sora no Otoshimono so high? Kampfer and Asura Cryin over Trapeze, which he doesn't like because it's 'gay'? And Darker Than Black is inferior to Railgun?

Terrible taste.
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Be warned, the guy's a known moe junkie.
 
Well, I watched the first episode of Blue Literature and, somewhat surprisingly, really liked it. I thought it might bore me, but it didn't at all. Obata's style meshed with the director's style well.

The scene where he's hiding under the girl's dress was excellent. The animation, the use of color, the background music... I really felt the tension. The scene toward the very end was great too. Psychadelic.
 
XiaNaphryz said:
For any NFL fans out there, this blogger posts his impressions of Fall 09 anime shows by comparing them with NFL starting quarterbacks.

Inuyasha Final, Yumeiro Patissiere, Natsu no Arashi, Sunred, Cool and Spicy, Miracle Train, White Album, Haruka Nogizaka’s Secret, Tegami Bachi, Koihime Musou, and Queen’s Blade all fell under "JaMarcus Russell."
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Tegami Bachi and Sunred should NOT be on the bottom. For any reason. Tegami Bachi is a very intriguing, very good looking, fantasy story and Sunred is downright hysterical.

Trapeze hate is smh.

Bantorra hate was justified for the first episode, not all justified considering the next two.

Ichizon being at #4 is lol.

Bad list is bad.

And before you ask, here's mine so far:

1. A Certain Scientific Railgun [3 episodes]
2. Armed Librarians: The Book of Bantorra [3 episodes]
3. Aoi Bungako
4. Kuchu Buranko
5. Tentai Senshi Sunred season 2
6. Letter Bee [3 episodes]
7. Kobato [3 episodes]
8. Kimi ni Todoke [3 episodes, might drop]
9. Sasameki Koto [2 episodes, might drop]
10. Sacred Blacksmith [3 episodes, might drop]
11. Yumeiro Patissiere [2 episodes, dropped]
12. 11Eyes [2 episodes, might drop]
13. Kiddy Girl-AND [might drop]
14. Nyan Koi [dropped]
15. Fairy Tail [dropped]
16. Kampfer [dropped]
17. Shin Koihime Musou [2 episodes, dropped]
18. Seitokai no Ichizon [dropped]
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Trapeze is doing well in Japan, apparently. Better than almost every new release this season. :lol The first episode pulled in about 3.7% of viewers, whereas something like Kimi no Todoke or Fairy Tail did decently at 2.5%-ish. Good news, I guess.
 
Dresden said:
Trapeze is doing well in Japan, apparently. Better than almost every new release this season. :lol The first episode pulled in about 3.7% of viewers, whereas something like Kimi no Todoke or Fairy Tail did decently at 2.5%-ish. Good news, I guess.
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That's pretty incredible. I would have expected it to do way less than shows like that.

Japan. :thumbsup
 
Great Rumbler said:
That's pretty incredible. I would have expected it to do way less than shows like that.

Japan. :thumbsup
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It's no surprise, really; Noitamina shows usually do pretty well.
 
Darker Than Black, S2, Ep 3:

Since Russia is interesting and all, let's go back to Japan soon! Oh, and we thought it'd be a hoot to have magic sniper rifles. God bless!
Still good, but goddamn...
 
Can someone give me a list of stuff this season and this year in general that is must-see or really, really good? I'm not into moe, slice of life or super kawaii anime.

Recent series I have enjoyed:

Gai-Rei Zero
Kurozuka
Michiko to Hatchin
Kaiba
 
qcf x2 said:
Can someone give me a list of stuff this season and this year in general that is must-see or really, really good? I'm not into moe, slice of life or super kawaii anime.
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Time of Eve
Full Metal Alchemist: Brotherhood
Bakemonogatari
Canaan
 
Tranced Shadow said:
Just watched ep 29 of Cross Game, and...

The FUCK was going on with that ending? :lol :lol :lol

Also, is the next ep a recap?
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Eh? You didn't notice the bag that she's carrying says "Wakaba" on it? Not like she can come back from the dead :lol
 
When is the online Bakagatamaraia ending?

Anyways, totally not related to this year, but I've been bed-ridden for the past week and decided that the few hours a day I've been concious was as good a time as any to finally watch Monster. The first few eps were slow as hell so I never watched more. It took like 5 episodes to cover the first manga release, and I was just plainly bored.

All I have to say is goddham. I'm at 40-something right now, and it's been flatly amazing. I still standby that the pacing is awful, but the show does so many things right it's hard to care. I love how it can make me care so much about one-off characters.
 
The first 2 eps of DTB2 have been great. lol at the people who thought it was going to be all taken over by moe due to just one Newtype artwork :lol Its perfectly in line with the first season tone wise. Liking the music too.
 
Dresden said:
Darker Than Black, S2, Ep 3:

Since Russia is interesting and all, let's go back to Japan soon! Oh, and we thought it'd be a hoot to have magic sniper rifles. God bless!
Still good, but goddamn...
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haven't seen it yet, but i personally think their choice of large caliber rifle to be embarrassing. SERIOUSLY? a WWII era single shot bolt action? it was never even ever scoped in practical use, why in God's name is it scoped here? any sort of .50 BMG rifle would have been easier to find. and if that thing ends up taking out a modern tank in the show, i will personally rage all over the place.
 
OMG 5 DAYS TO SOMETHING WORTH WATCHING.

OMG

SHAFT ALL OVER MY FACE.

(Jason of blogsuki is a pretty big moetard BUT.

His posts are always fun to read and he's one reason why I started following the seasons in the first place.

Also, I started watching Maria + Holic, Eden of the East and Bakemonogatari because of blogsuki so I owe it a lot.)
 
doomed1 said:
haven't seen it yet, but i personally think their choice of large caliber rifle to be embarrassing. SERIOUSLY? a WWII era single shot bolt action? it was never even ever scoped in practical use, why in God's name is it scoped here? any sort of .50 BMG rifle would have been easier to find. and if that thing ends up taking out a modern tank in the show, i will personally rage all over the place.
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Yeah, it's ridiculous. It feels like the directors just played COD:World at War and thought the PTRS in that game was just like the real thing.

I really liked the episode, but
magic sniper rifles
? Eww.

Halycon said:
OMG 5 DAYS TO SOMETHING WORTH WATCHING.

OMG

SHAFT ALL OVER MY FACE.
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Huh? New SHAFT series? Which one is it?

edit: oh, I feel like a tard, I know what it is.
 
Time of Eve
Full Metal Alchemist: Brotherhood
Bakemonogatari
Canaan
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Wow, those actually all look intriguing to me. I can't find the first one anywhere, though. :( Thanks for the recommendations!
 
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