Fall 2010 Anime Thread: Reboots, Retreads, and Rediscovery
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DrForester
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Hitokage said:
14-16 year old. 1997
14-16 year old. 2010
firehawk12
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DrForester said:
KuwabaraTheMan
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Lafiel said:Also, i watch old anime. (in fact i just finished maison ikkoku the other day). And i totally disagree with the notion that 80s / 90s anime is objectively better than 00s anime. It's all subjective, although as i watch more anime i kinda flip-flop between what my preferred decade is.
I agree with this. I think all eras of anime have great shows. Personally, I think it is more the case that there is a lot more crap coming out these days (and also getting translated, since it used to be that not all anime got translated). It's much easier to remember the great stuff from the 80s/90s and not the crap from those eras, as well.
Of course, in 15 years, there will be tons of people bitching about 'modern fandom' and about how things aren't good like they were back in the glory days of 2008 or whenever.:lol
DrForester
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Hitokage said:
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That is a good point, but it's not like fan-pandering crap didn't exist back in the 90s and early 00s, although i guess these days it has become more widespread or noticeable. (because of the internet).DrForester said:
Hitokage said:
I definitely prefer the look and art of 80s / 90s show over a lot of 00 stuff. I always cringe at people who refuse to watch 80s anime because of the dated animation, when i find the art itself has more charm and substance then a number of 00 shows. :lol
7Th said:
Sora no Otoshimono Forte (AIC ASTA)
Sequel to the original bishoujo manga adaptation.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wou9puvBPzU
hosannainexcelsis
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Decade arguments aside, let's take stock of this season. Shows I'm definitely interested in:
Star Driver (FABULOUS!)
Kuragehime (noitanima, Brains Base)
Soredemo Machi wa Mawatteiru (Like the premise, generally like Shaft's visual style)
The World God Only Knows (Manga seems well-liked)
Shows I'll probably check out, but am not sure about:
Panty and Stocking (I generally don't like shows with this visual style, but it has potential)
Psychic Detective Yakumo (With a thoughtful treatment, could work well. Or it could be bland and repetitive.)
Arakawa Under the Bridge X Bridge (Still need to watch the first season)
My Little Sister Couldn't Possibly Be This Cute (Sounds slightly creepy, but the manga seems well-received)
And I'll keep watching Shiki from last season. Doesn't seem a bad lineup to me.
Star Driver (FABULOUS!)
Kuragehime (noitanima, Brains Base)
Soredemo Machi wa Mawatteiru (Like the premise, generally like Shaft's visual style)
The World God Only Knows (Manga seems well-liked)
Shows I'll probably check out, but am not sure about:
Panty and Stocking (I generally don't like shows with this visual style, but it has potential)
Psychic Detective Yakumo (With a thoughtful treatment, could work well. Or it could be bland and repetitive.)
Arakawa Under the Bridge X Bridge (Still need to watch the first season)
My Little Sister Couldn't Possibly Be This Cute (Sounds slightly creepy, but the manga seems well-received)
And I'll keep watching Shiki from last season. Doesn't seem a bad lineup to me.
firehawk12
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KuwabaraTheMan said:
The difference is that we went from having shows be curated simply because of the expense (even if they butchered stuff like CCS and Sailor Moon) to having nearly everything be available soon after they air in Japan.
Of course, I don't blame CR for doing everything under the sun. They've said that they pay for translation in "bulk", so the cost of doing even the bad shows is rather negligible to them. All that means is that the onus is on the audience to work through all the crud to pick the good stuff (or at least the stuff they'll enjoy).
Did the wussification of Japan's adolescents lead to the wussification of pandering anime or did the wussification of pandering anime lead to the wussification of Japan's adolescents?
Or maybe it's a bit of both? Like a double ouroboros slowly devouring each other until there's nothing left?
Which leaves the question, where do we go after moe?
Or maybe it's a bit of both? Like a double ouroboros slowly devouring each other until there's nothing left?
Which leaves the question, where do we go after moe?
anotheriori
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Is it just the change to simplistic designs because lowered costs? Or is it attempt to be more moe or did the ideas of superflat in general become more influential in anime these years?
thisisgaf.jpg? I hope that's not a bannable meme but anyways gonna try to add something to discussion.. Maybe there's not much to say about current shows besides impressions or gushing after an episode.Defuser said:
InfiniteNine
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FRIEND! ;__;luka said:I posit the old thread is allowed to continue and thrive as a monument to itself.
Also I'm not done talking about Macross! I still have 15 more years to cover!
InfiniteNine
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Even though it was slow I thought Index was kind of interesting.7Th said:
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As I pointed out in my previous post, that notion tends to rely on the idea that people are only going from memory. In 15 years, if those people are complaining about "modern fandom" and think 2008 is the glory days, it could very well be because that is their particular taste. Assuming the anime in 15 years is different. Unless you are trying to say that the current anime season mirrors that of an equivalent in 88 or even 98?KuwabaraTheMan said:
I agree that there have been plenty of great 00s shows. Until maybe mid last year I wouldn't have said that the anime used to be better (more even if anything) as the issue wasn't a lack of quality as opposed to the larger amount of (as I view it) horrible shows. Just that has gotten a lot worse. Even in the past 2 years I probably saw well over 20 decent shows and at least 5 great ones. That has changed a bit drastically since sometime last year.
I find it interesting that some anime directors and other industry figures have said the exact same thing (with regards to moe, increasing otaku pandering at the extent of alienating others, etc...). Of course if that is posted on an anime news website/forum, plenty of people will say they are wrong and have no idea what they are talking about.
InfiniteNine
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I forgot that he didn't make sense.7Th said:
Doing what? I've read some of the light novels, if they get to where I think they'll get it should get pretty damn awesome near the end of this second season.7Th said:
Anyways, as if Index is remotely close to the worst thing I've watched, I'd rather watch Index than TWGOK and that little sister anime, I'm banking that all the shows this season will suck but that Index will suck marginally less than them.
Damn your memory is creepy! But yes that's true, I did. This time I'm going in with even lower expectations so I don't think it'll be as big a problem.7Th said:
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