Since you've quit over parts of the fandom before, I need to ask. How do other people's attitudes convince you to quit something you enjoy? Is it just association?
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Since you've quit over parts of the fandom before, I need to ask. How do other people's attitudes convince you to quit something you enjoy? Is it just association?
LOL. I think I remember that...
It was a combination of quite a few factors. The communities I frequented got fractured over dumb infighting. At the time, most of the fans I knew were either super into Bleach and Naruto to the point of hating on everything else, or cynical to the point of depression. I had less and less free time, the series I liked either ended or became terrible and I just kind of fell out of it.
Haha, always liked Hidamari. Think the art school setting drew me in since it vaguely reminded me of my AP art class in high school.
And I'll try not to be too much of a stranger.
I'm still slowly slogging through idolm@ster at your recommendation, and trying to finish Serial Experiments Lain, which I'm not liking that much compared to Texhnolyze. Lain does have a great opening song at least.
I see. I can easily see becoming dispirited or wanting to take a break while dealing with those things.
How do you like Idolm@ster?
They can. It's just that well.... lol, you get the idea.
What? I find it highly suspect I legitimately recommended im@s to you. Maybe like a few episodes, but probably not more than that. If you actually like it that's neat and all but yeeeeeeeeeeeah.
Not as bad as I originally thought it was going to be! I'm only on episode five but the characters aren't bad and the show can be pretty funny.
It was on mumble way back, so whether or not you were serious is up in the air I guess, haha.
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Also known as "growing up". It's great when you get to point where you stop focusing on petty things and just start enjoying.
Really this is just going on the evidence pile for me being a terrible person. Still, there are some cool im@s episodes that I hope you hit at least.
Yep, that's the point I'm at with everything. I enjoy what I enjoy. If someone doesn't like it, oh well.
As I've aged, I've become decidedly less cynical. As a kid, I used to nitpick shows to pieces. I hate more stuff than I liked. Now adays, I'm way more likely to like a show than not.
I have an irrational love for iM@S so it makes me glad when I hear of other people enjoying it. I really do think that it's a fun series. I can believe that the staff were fans of the series because I feel that it shows through the energy of the series.
Well, to be fair he also mentioned that a lot of the series he had been enjoying were ending or becoming worse. I kinda wonder how many people here could hatewatch a series without AnimeGAF.
What really helped bring me back in has been finding great people, like some awesome guys here on gaf, that can just have fun watching stuff. It doesn't need to always be a competition between shows or a race to see who can hate something the most, sometimes it can just be fun to talk about what we're watching.
RurouniZel
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Fun shows are fun.
Yes. That's why he should watch AW.
Don't worry, I'll give it a fair shake. I like checking something out and making my own mind up about it.
While this is only a little of what made Lagrange S2 bad, I find that split cours are bad for shows that have any sort of contiguous plot because the show either has to sacrifice an episode in order to broadcast a recap (as Lagrange S2 did) or the viewer has to take it upon themselves to refresh their own memories, which can be an inconvenience.
For instance, I think it speaks to the quality of Fate/Zero's writing that everyone seems to have had excellent recall of the narrative after the three month hiatus. Who here can say that they still remembered the exact nature of the conflict in Lagrange when S2 began? Two space dudes who something something Voxes something something MARU?
Hellsing321
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This was a nice wrap up to the arc. Thematically I like this arc the best as it dealt with coming to terms with your past and accepting who you are now because of it. Iori's decision at the end was pretty powerful for me. Sucks though that we have to wait who knows how long to see the final arc. I hate this trend of having the final episodes be DVD/BR exclusive.
This was a nice wrap up to the arc. Thematically I like this arc the best as it dealt with coming to terms with your past and accepting who you are now because of it. Iori's decision at the end was pretty powerful for me. Sucks though that we have to wait who knows how long to see the final arc. I hate this trend of having the final episodes be DVD/BR exclusive.
I don't have the energy to be critical about everything I watch. At this point in my life, I prefer just to take all shows on their own terms.
Me, but that's because i'm good at remembering those kinds of things for everything I watch. I could watch half of a 100 episode show, come back to it 2 years later and still remember what's up.
thats interesting, because from my perspective it would take an incredible amount of energy to just go along with everything the Japanese animation industry spews out
For me, caring to care takes more energy than caring not to care. You actually have to get involved to care and have to make your own connections.
That's how I am too. I can be critcial when I want to, but watching shows on their own merits is just as fun for me and I feel better when I finish watching something.
Having not see the show I can only assume the worst
Well, There are some VERY disturbing things in Fate Zero, but the whole show has a dark tone. Its definitely not a bad show.
I dont think you have to worry about us.
AnimeGaf has a lot of level headed fans in it who can actually engage in discussion without hurling insults. We run the gamut from the cynicals to those who watch almost everything, and everything in between. We have an understanding here and lots of respect for each other.
Agreed.
not caring isnt the same thing as enjoying
it takes a special, conditioned perspective to enjoy every empty piece of filth that emerges
wonzo is a hardened individual with the Kingdom thing
I don't disagree with you. I just found that I tend to feel better just watching anime for superficial reasons. It's not like I can't be critical. If I do see something exceptional, I can still note how differently two shows approach it.
Admitting a show's shortcomings and strengths and enjoying it are kinda two different things for me. I guess I just care less about truly appreciating when something is "done right" than I do about occupying my time with something entertaining.
In that case, I think I have that special, conditioned perspective.
Is she just swearing off Fate Zero or all anime after that?
firehawk12
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Well, if you think about white people TV, especially cable, if you can actually plot seasons coherently, you can do a split cour where each half is meaningful. If you use the format correctly, you can even get people excited to watch the next season (although American TV has abused this concept way too much now. When every season is a cliffhanger, it's just boring).
It worked for Shaft-oh's Arakawa and Natsu no Arashi, mostly because each cour was thematically closed and relatively plot-closed. Rinne had a decent cliffhanger ending that blew up the very premise of the show... it was just squandered by the lackluster second season.
It's not really their fault at this point, though. People expect cliffhangers and get mad when they don't get them.
She would probably not watch any more Fate Zero.
I have hundreds of shows so she would definitely find something else to enjoy.
She's just very busy with substitute teaching and housework and cant really sit down often to watch.
I'm consuming a hell of a lot of fiction at any one time so that might have something to do with my personal recall. With Lagrange specifically, I think the fact that so much of the first season was just setup--a piling of mysteries upon mysteries and context-less terminology--harmed my ability to remember a lot of it. Knowing the underlying reason why a character is doing something or why a fictional world works the way it does improves my recall.
Alternately, maybe I just didn't give a damn about the srsbns in the show to begin with and really just cared about the cute girls, hahah. I do also have to be invested in a narrative to retain it for a long time beyond the point of consumption.
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Who are these many? I thought it had overall low viewers and there really isnt much of a fanbase, and seemed a bit less popular this second half. Lagrange, by Nissan, was actually really cool, and etc.
You know what I mean. the folks who enjoyed the show.
A few thousand is still many people.
Perfect.
You could you know, just watch things without attachment. It's what I do. Now I want to watch Kingdom just for the spectacle of mediocre. What have you done to me?
Look at all the cool shit that Los Angeles Madoka Magica movie attendees get.
For free with ticket purchase (while supplies last):
For free with ticket purchase (while supplies last):
A printed signboard with what I assume is an Ume Aoki sketch and signatures from movie staff
Of course, you'll also have the chance to buy some of the stuff that I think was on display at some Madoka event recently in Japan:A special 27" X 39.5" movie poster
Earphone accessories
Plush stuff
Movie guidebooks
Ume Aoki illustration wallscroll
firehawk12
Subete no aware
Yeah, it's a trend that's creeping up in episodic television now too. So the cliffhangers have to get bigger and bigger.
You know what's funny? I never watched Dallas but "Who shot JR?" is something that I just know because of how unprecedented that cliffhanger was. All the mythology surrounding it - the fact that they filmed fake endings so that there would be no leaks - including the fact that The Simpsons did a parody of it with "Who shot Mr. Burns?", only exist because of how shocking the idea of a cliffhanger was at the time.
Now, every season of every show ends with someone getting shot, or killed, or kidnapped, or quitting the force, or whatever... and they've become so meaningless that none of them are really cultural events that will last into the next generation.
Like, I can't really think of a single cliffhanger finale for Lost. I mean, "WE HAVE TO GO BACK" is probably the only one that immediately comes to mind but I don't even remember the context of that ending.
I watched 5 or 6 seasons of 24, the show defined by the cliffhanger ending, and I can't remember any of them. I think in one season Jack goes to Africa to save some orphans and he gets captured and returned to the US or something? Who knows.
I don't know if there's a solution to that. David Simon's pseudo-cliffhangery-but-not-really endings to his seasons are pretty good. But then again, no one likes his shows so that's probably not the best way to go about it. lol
Not enough Miracle Trains, clearly!
I can kind of relate. I told myself that AnimeGAF was going to be my last stop on the line for the internet anime community before giving up and watching anime in complete solitude forever. I'd tried virtually every other major English-language hub for discussion and never fit in anywhere due to a near-total disparity in opinions with the vast majority of people who frequent those sites, so when I found a community that actually a.) had self-awareness about their own hobby, b.) had the ability to be highly critical without being assholish and could actually articulate good justifications for their criticism, and c.) generally disliked vapid otaku-pander anime while rejecting the notion that modern anime was universally terrible, I was excited at the prospect that I'd finally found an outlet for my thoughts.
If you're at all like this and have even the notion that you've found a place where you fit in, you'll probably love participating in the thread. Welcome!
Having a venue for your incredulity certainly helps. There are a handful of series pre-AnimeGAF that I managed to watch to completion in spite of hating them, though--junk like Trinity Blood, Kurozuka, and Shikabane Hime come to mind.
Damn America's vast geographical size to hell.
What gives you the idea that I remember even the slightest thing about that show? hahah.
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