Kotomine Kirei can make that work.
Nah, you're right. Having Voldemort be a cartoon sidesteps the uncomfortable idea of people genuinely rallying to his side and not because they're just awful, nasty people.He was, but even Hitler had people he loved, in his own twisted way, and he once had aspirations to be an artist. Voldemort doesn't have anything like that, he's just a jerk to everyone, including his own allies.
To be honest, the problem isn't really the "pandering". It's the entire tone of the show and how it is written. It's impossible to salvage it because it's not just about good action or whatever - the direction of the entire series so far is top-tier. That's the ultimate tragedy. It's extremely well directed and well animated, but the material is complete garbage. The things which come out of their mouths is garbage. The subject matter of a number of scenes are garbage. The narrative is garbage. The character relationships and interactions are garbage.
I think that by putting a ton of real effort into the show, KyoAni actually makes it worse, because I think the majority of people who would actually appreciate what goes into it, are not those who would care for what is being made. Those who do care about this sort of material, in my experience, doesn't really ask for much in the way of the effort being put in here. What a waste.
Nah, you're right. Having Voldemort be a cartoon sidesteps the uncomfortable idea of people genuinely rallying to his side and not because they're just awful, nasty people.
Nah, you're right. Having Voldemort be a cartoon sidesteps the uncomfortable idea of people genuinely rallying to his side and not because they're just awful, nasty people.
To be fair, trying to depict Hitler in a grey light nowadays is damn near impossible. Not many good ways you can spin genocide.
To be fair, trying to depict Hitler in a grey light nowadays is damn near impossible. Not many good ways you can spin genocide.
I'll admit that I'm also influenced by the movies/Ralph Fiennes' rather cliched and corny portrayal of the character. But yeah, you bring up another huge problem I have with the story: every single person in Slytherin is a cartoonish stereotype of evil.
Just portray him as making the MMO of his dreams and locking 10k people into it.
Well except Snape and Draco.
Societies that commit such acts don't believe themselves to be monsters. It's not that Hitler wasn't a bad guy, it's just that the Nazis weren't such an extraordinary case that people can rest easy knowing they'd never be complicit in such things.To be fair, trying to depict Hitler in a grey light nowadays is damn near impossible. Not many good ways you can spin genocide.
They're the exceptions that prove the rule because the only way they get away with it is by acting just as cartoonishly evil as everyone else in Slytherin.
Like I said, it worked when the books were light-hearted and episodic, but when it gets serious, they create tonal and thematic dissonance.
Societies that commit such acts don't believe themselves to be monsters. It's not that Hitler wasn't a bad guy, it's just that the Nazis weren't such an extraordinary case that people can rest easy knowing they'd never be complicit in such things.
After all, we're the "good guys".
Well you have Gryffindors such as Dumbledore who are Machiavellian to the core.
They're also kids/teenager books. For the age group, it's fine.
Those were just the people who had to get their hands dirty. Most did not.However reading some of the reports from the concentration camps and stuff later, some of them knew what they were doing were wrong. You also get the people who just flat out didn't give a fuck.
Edit: I think it was Hoss who would go to his family every night with no worries after killing a swarm of people in the day. He just viewed it as a job.
Yeah but with Dumbledore that stuff just makes you think "what a badass!"
Sure it's kids' books, but I think kids can have a better grasp of moral ambiguity than that.
Also, there's some disturbing implications to a school having a hat that easily divides the good kids from the bad, if you think about it.
Animegaf would all be dumped into Hufflepuff. Thanks, Caste Hat.
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Basically what I'm saying is where's my Platinum.
It's like playing basketball where half-court shots get 200 points and play ends. Of course everything else is rendered moot.As a sidenote, quidditch is one of the worst sports ever invented.
Well, you're not supposed to like them!The movies did make things ever worse though, I mean all the Slytherin quidditch players having buckteeth, come on. Not only is evil easily identifiable mentally, but also physically.
Huffle is like the worst house. Nothing worse than being stated that you're a boring person and then grouped with other boring people.
When the alternatives are being pure evil, a hero (and likely dead man walking), and, er, a Ravenclaw, boring isn't really that bad.
Huffle is like the worst house. Nothing worse than being stated that you're a boring person and then grouped with other boring people.
Animegaf would all be dumped into Hufflepuff. Thanks, Caste Hat.
Animegaf would all be dumped into Hufflepuff. Thanks, Caste Hat.
It's like playing basketball where half-court shots get 200 points and play ends. Of course everything else is rendered moot.
Serious argument?
If so then let me laugh.
quidditchHer world building for the most part is still impeccable.
Yeah, it makes no sense to not have most of the team dedicated to searching for the snitch while one or two people just camp in front of the goal. Also, the nature of the snitch chase makes it very difficult for spectators to follow.
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Fate/Zero Kotomine Kirei is better written than Voldemort. His character arc makes his motivations pretty clear.
KnK - destroying anime
+ KlK - saving anime
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= Anime still doomed
But that motivation "only" ended up to find out he some sick bastard, still make him very compelling character.
All this Harry Potter talk and no discussions of Harry Potter waifus/husbandos? smh
Look at all this yuri subtext *MAJOR SPOILERS*This would be considered incest
Luna>*
Snape looks like Waver.
This thread's gotten really weird in it's old age.
This is my school life in a nutshell.Does it matter what house you're in? You'd still be spending your evening watching anime rather than joining the others in the common room.
Or in the library researching a Waifu Summoning spell.
Animegaf would all be dumped into Hufflepuff. Thanks, Caste Hat.
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I think what this shows is that this season is so disappointing that Harry Potter has provoked better discussion than anything we've said about anime in ages.