Being a worse protagonist than Kirito is like dividing by zero, but somehow IS guy achieves it.
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Being a worse protagonist than Kirito is like dividing by zero, but somehow IS guy achieves it.
So, as the person who said it possibly first and probably most, I did not say it was JUST like Utena, but that it was like if Utena had had a baby with Gurren Lagann. Visually, stylistically, and tonally it inherits from papa TTGL in this case. The skeletal structure reminded me of Utena, though. Which is to say I found the first episode of Kill la Kill reminiscent of Utena's first episode.
Namely, a new transfer student arrives at a high school with an absurdly powerful student council (fairly generic I confess, although Utena's only a transfer in the movie, I think). She has personal ties to the president of the student council. These ties originate on the day when her parents died. This girl is a cool customer, unperturbed by the insanity of the student council and the school. A hyper younger girl looks up to her and runs up from behind and jumps on her back. The new girl crosses the student council, and gets challenged to a duel to save a girl. The student council all wear white, and are puzzled and perplexed by the power of the new girl, who gets a uniform upgrade to a black uniform with a special sword when she challenges the aggressive, jerkass leader of the school fight club.
It isn't 1:1 and it never will be, but it reminded me of Utena, if Utena had had a baby with TTGL. And so Revolutionary Gurren Lagann Utena was born.
Probably explains why I like both of them.
KirbYuuYuu
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Literally made it worse than I ever hoped.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
IS guy is literally an empty cipher with no attributes, qualities, or personal history beyond having a sister. He is no worse than your typical harem protagonist, but the tabula rasa of his personality and identity also makes him the best harem protagonist.
Kirito, on the other hand, embodies the worst aspects of otaku culture and is rewarded for it by having a sister who wants to fuck him.
i dunno...IS2 is the worst thing I have seen in a very long time.
i don't really agree with this philosophy. the second one is way more interesting. the IS guy is also oblivious to the point of brain dead. terrible for harems.
IS guy is so stupid that he actually sucks out your brain cells when you watch him. At least with Kirito you can just laugh at his blatant Gary-Stu characterization.
Kirito also had no personality, though. Well, until he suddenly started praising mass murderers and engaging in murder porn.
Crash Station
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I had assumed she was just being cute. I've seen people refer to breaking something as "killing"before. Hell, I've done it.
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
Kirito gets laid. And he still has a harem too.
The real reason why everybody hates him.
IS guy is just totally incompetent. In every way.
how low can they go?!!
#teamichika
Pretty sure the reason I hated Kirito was because he wanted to fuck his sister when he should've been trying to save his online wife.
Usually in reference to everyday use or breaking over time. Not to immediate damage like smashing, cutting or destroying something. Like I might say I 'killed' my shoes, like I had worn them out but not if I set them on fire or took some scissors to them.
Okay, I've gone and found the Japanese for these lines (the things I do for you guys =p)
Scene #1
Different Sub:
Crunchy Sub:
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First one implies that she's always careful about there being students around.
JP: 人払いは、ちゃんとしておりますので。
This one's up to interpretation; "しております" could feasibly refer to doing something habitually or just having done it in this one instance. I suspect it's intended as the latter here, though, which means Crunchy's sub is likely the more accurate.
Scene #2
Different Sub:
Crunchy Sub:
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Crunchy subs literally don't make sense. You can't kill an inanimate object. Different sub also implies she's trying to avoid destroying school property.
JP: ちょっ…バケツ壊しちゃう…！
She certainly doesn't talk about "killing" anything (the verb 壊す is "to destroy"), but the other sub seems a little too wordy and accusatory for such a short exclamation of shock. It's more like a simple "Ah - I destroyed the bucket!", though there is a tone of complaint about the line that implies she's blaming it on him. So arguably the non-Crunchy-sub is more accurate, but I kind of like Crunchy's sub better here because it's cuter and more lulsworthy.
That's assuming, of course, that Crunchy used "kill" for the sake of characterisation. It's entirely possible that they just misheard 壊す (kowasu, to destroy) as 殺す (korosu, to kill), in which case lol.
Scene #3
Different Sub:
Crunchy Sub:
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Complete reversal of the joke and also implies that the two are childhood friends.
JP:
「どうせ私は便所飯でお馴染みの秋人くらいしか虐げる事の出来ない悲しい学園生活を送っているわ。」
「待て。その発言の中で一番悲しい存在は僕になってないか？」
Crunchy subs are clearly a mistranslation; the other subs are pretty much accurate. There's no mention of "childhood friend" in the original line; presumably the Crunchy translator got confused between お馴染み (onajimi, an expression meaning someone is "known for" something) and 幼馴染み (osananajimi, "childhood friend").
dakkumauji
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Stike the Blood 01
Pretty slow start. Pretty similar to the manga adaptation though it did add some background at the end of the episode which was a welcome treat.
Will keep watching just to remember what I liked about the manga then.
Pretty slow start. Pretty similar to the manga adaptation though it did add some background at the end of the episode which was a welcome treat.
Will keep watching just to remember what I liked about the manga then.
Crash Station
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Eh, I've said something along the lines of "ah shit dude, I killed your pot" after knocking over a vase or something. It didn't strike me as odd at all, though those other subs are definitely off.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
No, Kirito has a back story and qualities placed on him. That's who whole point of that shitty "Beater" Batman bullshit he had in the second episode.
He's as close as you can get to UtaPri girl, who I think is probably the best reverse harem protagonist in very much the same way. No back story, no characteristics, (for some here, voiced by Sawashiro
), no real identity other than the uncanny ability to write music. If you are talking about harem protagonist design in a linear, non-interactive medium, it's perfection.Their denseness or lack of agency creates the constant differal that paradoxically enacts agency within the viewer. Case in point, the waifu wars (Russia is best) that some of us willingly engage in.
Naw, I love Makoto too. And he basically bangs everyone. But I love him for a different reason.
Although, as I've said many times, Cross Days guy really makes Makoto look like small fries. lol
firehawk12
Subete no aware
Now do this for every anime this season! lol
Theonik
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We must know if we can trust our waifu translations after all.
WHAT DO THE MIXED BERRIES MEAN!?
Wow, thanks! One thing I find strange is that I thought the CR guys would've been given transcripts of the episode. I guess not though.
He's as close as you can get to UtaPri girl, who I think is probably the best reverse harem protagonist in very much the same way. No back story, no characteristics, (for some here, voiced by Sawashiro
Their denseness or lack of agency creates the constant differal that paradoxically enacts agency within the viewer. Case in point, the waifu wars (Russia is best) that some of us willingly engage in.
But if you're going to use that logic, then the best harem protagonist is a nonexistent one. Which isn't wrong, but it would still mean IS guy is not the best.
Thanks for the work. So 2/3(of the scenes I picked) roughly were off. There were some other stuff that were different but then at that point, might as well go through the entire script.
Maybe we should ask HisshouBuraiKen how much can be revealed about the CR translation process. I would have hoped they had some safeguard against translators mishearing words.
Have you been talking to Cain?
Sounds like a real hero to me.
SAO is the twitchtv stream of The Last of Us with Citizen Kane playing in a separate window of Anime
This is why Koihime Musou is my favorite harem anime.
Outbreak Company 1
So this is pretty generic. Almost painfully so.
However, it does have some cute girls, and the dynamic between the MC and the maid is kind of sweet(?), so I won't dismiss it out of hand. I'll give it another episode or two. Hopefully it will keep being generic and uninspired so I can feel comfortable dropping it.
So this is pretty generic. Almost painfully so.
However, it does have some cute girls, and the dynamic between the MC and the maid is kind of sweet(?), so I won't dismiss it out of hand. I'll give it another episode or two. Hopefully it will keep being generic and uninspired so I can feel comfortable dropping it.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
That's the thing, you can have no protagonist if you are making a eroge VN or Persona 4. You can't do that with a television show though, so this is as close as they can get without making the entire anime take place in first person.
Although if they did that, I would think it was high art and would make it my anime of the generation instantly.
SAO is the formspring to IS's tumblr.
I don't even know what's going on anymore.
Is that a harem at that point? I mean, it just becomes something like Senran Kagura, which just has the girls doing faux-yuri things to each other.
The lead is a tomboyish girl, an outsider who's drawn into the school's system of bizarre duels during a quest to discover the identity of a figure from her past. There will inevitably be :sdburton between her and the mysterious, otherwordly female at the center of the system.
Also, Mako is an exaggerated Wakaba.
The best harem protagonist is a female one.
I am also okay with this.
Brother Conflict and Diabolik Lovers prove otherwise.
Brother Conflict was okay but Diabolik Lovers is creepy.
Golden Time Episode 01
Annoying as shit lead female character? Yup this is definitely by the Toradora author. (okay maybe she's not as bad)
I find the college/university setting here pretty refreshing. I haven't watched a whole lot of anime set in a similar environment other than Tatami Galaxy and maybe a few others. Could be a pretty good romcom if it manages to be enjoyable on its own terms but I have no idea where it wants to go especially after that ending of the first episode.
Coppelion Episode 01
Once you look past the awful filter and that weird bold character outline the show seems to enjoy using for like half the episode, this is a really good looking anime. Very detailed environments and conveys that post-disaster atmosphere very beautifully.
I've already read a few chapters of this but the premise seems just as silly to me after watching this episode so I dunno.
Infinite Stratos 2 Episode 01
Whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy am I watching this?
(can't wait for Russia)
Annoying as shit lead female character? Yup this is definitely by the Toradora author. (okay maybe she's not as bad)
I find the college/university setting here pretty refreshing. I haven't watched a whole lot of anime set in a similar environment other than Tatami Galaxy and maybe a few others. Could be a pretty good romcom if it manages to be enjoyable on its own terms but I have no idea where it wants to go especially after that ending of the first episode.
Coppelion Episode 01
Once you look past the awful filter and that weird bold character outline the show seems to enjoy using for like half the episode, this is a really good looking anime. Very detailed environments and conveys that post-disaster atmosphere very beautifully.
I've already read a few chapters of this but the premise seems just as silly to me after watching this episode so I dunno.
Infinite Stratos 2 Episode 01
Whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy am I watching this?
(can't wait for Russia)
Strike the Blood ep1
Apparently pretending to be a Italian tourist is a best way to stop a person from recognizing you.
Why am I not surprised this being a Silver Link show the production values for this is low? Not to mention Hiroyuki Yoshino is behind the series adaptation.
The show is so and so, at least there's pantsu and Taneda Risa.
Apparently pretending to be a Italian tourist is a best way to stop a person from recognizing you.
Why am I not surprised this being a Silver Link show the production values for this is low? Not to mention Hiroyuki Yoshino is behind the series adaptation.
The show is so and so, at least there's pantsu and Taneda Risa.
Dedication Through Light
Member
Surely you mean Nanami from UtaPri, the less present the better.
ZachDeKoromaru
Banned
I recently discovered that there's a tan, tomboy creature with short hair and a fluffy tail in this and am now obligated to watch it.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
I think he means yuri harems. Of which there really aren't any, outside of jokes like YuriCam or I presume porn doujins.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
This sounds like porn for someone afflicted with chuu2ism.
ZachDeKoromaru
Banned
If he was doing his job correctly she'd also have short shorts.
Yuyushiki was sort of like a Yuri Harem. There was at least 3 girls after the blonde girl.
Save 'N Quit
Banned
Pokemon Origins 4
I don't want this to end
Everything was fucking awesome from the very beginning to the very end. The faithful adaption from the games, the nostalgic music that played, and the glorious animation, all contributed to one spectacular experience throughout the entire specials. The final battles with Charizard against Blastoise and later Mewtwo, were some of the finest moments in Pokemon history.
Although, if there was one thing I did have an issue with, is that Charizard took up a little to much screen time for my taste. Would have liked to see a little more variety than having Red's other Pokemon one shotted (Hitmonlee does stands out though) so that Charizard could swoop in for the win.
But even with that complaint, this was by far one of the best game adaptions I've seen in a very long time.
10/10 Outstanding. A must see for any Pokemon fan.
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