Theonik
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These posts only make my decision to base all my opinions of GoGo on that one doujin justified.
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Fall 2013 Anime |OT2| The Rise and Fall of Kyoto
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There's this thing about the second season where it feels like there is something genuine and honest in the writing and handling of the characters as opposed to mostly using them as devices for gags. Not only compared to S1 (sans ep 13) but also compared to the breadth of 4koma adaptations. Of course the quality of the production and directing is significantly improved, that also helps, but IIRC they changed and added a ton of stuff that wasn't in the source in the second season to give rise to a more apparent thematic development between and within episodes.
KirbYuuYuu
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Yes! Precure 5 GoGo 47
This moment single handedly ruined this episode for me.
I MEAN I WAS LOOKING FOR
BUT OF COURSE! OF COURSE! COCO WASN'T JUST ENOUGH EH NOZOMI!?
NOPE GOTTA HAVE SYRUPY TITS TOO! Can't even fucking give Urara, Syrup. That's hers dammit. HERS! JEALOUS OF THE IDOL! STEAL SYRUP ADERPDERP
With all the fiber in my being, I was stopped cold hard and center, left to pace around in my room, throwing my hands in the fucking air at this shit. Man, it's like... Mana was already a harem lead, and other girls are trying to steal Mana from them, although they lost to best girl Regina. Here it's like... not suppose to be a harem, ALMOST EVERYONE HAS A PARTNER, but fuck Rin. We'd rather give her counterpart, Akane, the D. BUT NO, NOZOMI JUST NEEDS ONE MORE DICK, JUST ONE MORE!
....Why Toei? Is this an attempt to throw a bone for Rin? It doesn't work here....
You know what, I hope this crashes hard. I really don't think Doki Doki Precure will ever piss me off with its ending
This moment single handedly ruined this episode for me.
I MEAN I WAS LOOKING FOR
BUNBEE THE BROBEE
NOPE GOTTA HAVE SYRUPY TITS TOO! Can't even fucking give Urara, Syrup. That's hers dammit. HERS! JEALOUS OF THE IDOL! STEAL SYRUP ADERPDERP
With all the fiber in my being, I was stopped cold hard and center, left to pace around in my room, throwing my hands in the fucking air at this shit. Man, it's like... Mana was already a harem lead, and other girls are trying to steal Mana from them, although they lost to best girl Regina. Here it's like... not suppose to be a harem, ALMOST EVERYONE HAS A PARTNER, but fuck Rin. We'd rather give her counterpart, Akane, the D. BUT NO, NOZOMI JUST NEEDS ONE MORE DICK, JUST ONE MORE!
God knows if Syrup is a good lube, but at least it'll be tasty
....Why Toei? Is this an attempt to throw a bone for Rin? It doesn't work here....
You know what, I hope this crashes hard. I really don't think Doki Doki Precure will ever piss me off with its ending
outside of killing Regina maybe.
strangedopamine
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ICE Episode 1
I could only last 7 minutes. It's not on The List for nothing. Ugh.
I could only last 7 minutes. It's not on The List for nothing. Ugh.
There's more than one episode? I thought it was a one off, unless you are breaking it up into seven minute chunks.
Joe Molotov
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Theonik
Member
2 40 minute episodes and a 30 minute one
Once sound reasoning was given as to why Haruhi S3 will never happen all hope was lost.*
*I liked Tamako Market
*I liked Tamako Market
Now I can't remember if I only watched one or saw it all together and remembered it as just one thing.
ZachDeKoromaru
Banned
Every girl needs fluffy tails and exposed tummies. I saved KyoAni, where's my check?
Only if DTL writes it.
I've been asking for the details on how to enter the contest for ages but no one wants to tell me just incase KyoAni ends up picking my story for a show.
Save 'N Quit
Banned
BlazBlue Alter Memory 9
Back to being mediocre.
Did get a laugh out of Tager thinking he had a chance against Terumi and Jin once again rejecting Tsubaki in favor for his nii-san.
Back to being mediocre.
Did get a laugh out of Tager thinking he had a chance against Terumi and Jin once again rejecting Tsubaki in favor for his nii-san.
hosannainexcelsis
Member
The second season so far strikes a balance between the contemplative atmosphere of episode 13 of S1 (the best episode by far) and the lighter atmosphere of the rest of that season, which works pretty well. As you say, it's nice to have characters who are more than collections of quirks to be extracted from for gags. For a slice-of-life show to be memorable, it either needs to be funny or it needs to have likable, fleshed-out characters. The first season of K-ON doesn't really succeed on either count, but the second season looks like it will deliver on the second, and even somewhat on the first. Despite (or because of) the jokes not being underlined as much, they make a more pleasant impression.
They made Disappearance of Haruhi and the K-ON movie in that timespan too. KyoAni had a good thing going for a while there; it's too bad they don't seem to have any really good original ideas.
Nor any good ideas from their amateur contest writers.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
The flip side is that you can import from Japan without any troubles, so... I dunno.
Dedication Through Light
Member
BlazBlue: Alter Memory Episode 9 The Power of Order
Jin episode focus made it best of the bunch so far.
Jin episode focus made it best of the bunch so far.
but ending when he and Ragna meet 
Next week is the first episode Im looking forward to
Next week is the first episode Im looking forward toKillerMan91
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So second season of Free! ?
nothing can top the quality van from Polyphonica
shoulda watched Yami!
Nope. I dont remember this.
Genius
jediyoshi
Member
hair clips > candy store > tokyo sister
nintendoman58
Member
Seriously? Like is this intentional? Like the car floating is supposed to represent how the whole sequence is some sort of illusion? But if that's the case then why does the car hit the rock as if it was driving on the road itself? Also if the car was floating, seems like somebody would have commented on a BTTF style hovercar showing up.
That better be intentional for their sake. Even so, that's hilarious.
Nah, Corvo should be the one to write it. It will be the inspiring story of an angry orange that goes on a journey to achieve its lifelong dream of becoming a tomato. The plot twist: The orange was always the tomato all along. It never needed to go on a journey.
KirbYuuYuu
Member
Yes! Precure 5 GoGo! 48 END
Well that was dumb.
Well, I guess I can concede for good that Yes! 5 was rather boring in general. From really bad art quality, to rather boring cast, it drowns out in what it has over the later series; plot points being resolved without feeling rushed
and spending enough time to develop each character, although in all fairness, this nearly had 100 episodes dedicated to developing the characters.... Eh
Heartcatch > Fresh > Splash Star > Smile > DokiDoki = Suite > Futari Wa > GoGo > Yes! 5 > Max Heart
... Maybe.
Mailpo was the fucking flower Syrup grew
Well that was dumb.
Well, I guess I can concede for good that Yes! 5 was rather boring in general. From really bad art quality, to rather boring cast, it drowns out in what it has over the later series; plot points being resolved without feeling rushed
maybe
Heartcatch > Fresh > Splash Star > Smile > DokiDoki = Suite > Futari Wa > GoGo > Yes! 5 > Max Heart
... Maybe.
This honestly makes me consider not ordering it altogether. Sounds a bit silly, but I think they affect the experience quite significantly.
They put out Tamako in the middle of this year long run of mediocrity so there is still hope for them. They really need better ideas for their shows though, I agree.
Seriously? Like is this intentional? Like the car floating is supposed to represent how the whole sequence is some sort of illusion? But if that's the case then why does the car hit the rock as if it was driving on the road itself? Also if the car was floating, seems like somebody would have commented on a BTTF style hovercar showing up.
Holy shit, how could something like this could have pass through the checking?
HxH 107
I hate the palm stuff. I feel like she's not really needed in this story. I mean, I think even in the last episode Knov mentioned that if she failed it'll still be okay, so I don't really understand why they bothered to send her in.
Anyway... holy crap@Killua without his shirt. Wow. I don't remember this part in the manga.
I hate the palm stuff. I feel like she's not really needed in this story. I mean, I think even in the last episode Knov mentioned that if she failed it'll still be okay, so I don't really understand why they bothered to send her in.
Anyway... holy crap@Killua without his shirt. Wow. I don't remember this part in the manga.
R_thanatos
Member
Putting dokidoki on suite level ? Lol
At least you are aware that Gogo is superior to yes!
No , Knov said to not take risks because they would still be able to plan without her input ( even if her mission increase the overall chances of sucess by a lot )
( because the doors are in place ) , being able to put the doors was a one in a life time opportunity , one they weren't sure they could have.
If you want to know :
When the red aura was upon her she killed herself in order to not reveal what she knew of the plan.
And yes Killua without his shirt was in the manga.
Theonik
Member
GoodEnough(TM)
It's Yamada and Takemoto we should put our trust on. Ishihara does bad LN stuff and the new directors are content getting to do whatever and lack experience.
Dedication Through Light
Member
Shouldnt it? Its not like this is the first time weve seen him and that car so far.
I think the sad thing is that quite a few people were probably aware of it.
KirbYuuYuu
Member
The = is more like "I have no idea where I want to put this at the moment".
Suite use to be near the bottom. It got a boost to say the least.
Yeah, alot of the mediocrity coming out of KyoAni are from the new directors (Utsumi, Ishidate) or known hacks (Ishihara). If KyoAni went back to their old pace of two shows (or less) a season and kept the Yamada-Takemoto-Ishihara rotation going, there might not be as much agitas from the fanbase.
I don't think the issue is with the source material, even. I mean, K-On has a shitty source and Yamada/Yoshida turned that into gold. They just need to choose their shitty adaptations better.
strangedopamine
Member
Guess what I just did?
Yami to Boushi to Hon no Tabibito - Episode 1
Why is the camerawork in this done by a drunk person? The dialogue sounds like random stuff Cleverbot would say if it spoke entirely in really odd similies, nothing makes any sense!
KyoAni would probably bastardise the material like most of their light novels.
Dedication Through Light
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Miss Monochrome The Animation Episode 10
Cameos?! Miss Monochrome's manager always gets the best hookups.
Cameos?! Miss Monochrome's manager always gets the best hookups.
What have you started...you fool!
R_thanatos
Member
Gundam build fighters - 09
Ah ah
I don't have the words...
Bearguy 3 was entertaining to watch !
The little details were there ( like the change of expressions ).
Damn this was well done.
Caroline was ... was with her horse near the park ? What ?
Ahem , this episode was yet again much more entertaining than i would have expected.and it was just a tiny filler, can't wait to see the tournament starting next week.
Ah ah
I don't have the words...
Bearguy 3 was entertaining to watch !
The little details were there ( like the change of expressions ).
Damn this was well done.
Caroline was ... was with her horse near the park ? What ?
Ahem , this episode was yet again much more entertaining than i would have expected.and it was just a tiny filler, can't wait to see the tournament starting next week.
You know all those people with named intros? You'll never see them again after ep 2!
[Full Metal Panic!]
To an extent, much of my enjoyment was derived from not knowing exactly how this show was supposed to present itself.
I know that it was popular, just not the reasons as to why. That said, it turns out that it isnt entirely dissimilar to a whole raft of anime, perhaps even in generic in its structure. Yes, it takes place in a high school, and it does have a male and female lead. The caveat being that there is a shadowy organization afoot, intent on catching a girl by the name of Chidori - for even more shadowy reasons. Sosuke arrives to protect her, socially inept but practically adept. He is there to safeguard her personal life, but seems to be much better at sabotaging her personal one.
Ostensibly starting off with a not too dissimilar slice of life premise, I assumed the military conceit was just that something that would never really figure into the narrative proper. As it turns out, this is true, to a degree. Therein lies my main problem with FMP. It sets out to achieve one thing, and it does. Though the fish-out-of-water setup is hardly novel, its executed with aplomb, with both Sosuke and Chidori being likeable leads, and the extended cast are more than up to the task. The high school scenes are perhaps the best parts of the entire show, with Sosukes militaristic diligence being juxtaposed with his utter lack of social graces, as he sets out to protect Chidori by any means he sees fit. Its entertaining stuff; with Chidoris bemusement at her plight (with seemingly most of the animation effort going into her range of expressions) both being amusing, whilst also not feeling like your typical relationship. Their dynamic is fun, and though romantic overtures are present, it never really feels like its overbearing.
It perhaps flows through these formative episodes so smoothly, that when it does rather abruptly shift away from this particular rhythm the show never really feels as assured again. Its this early promise that both led me to the very end of the series, along with lamenting what I was ultimately left with. The makeup of the show exists in two distinct parts, and its the weight of juggling these two that ultimately sours proceedings. There is the normal aspect of the show - which deals with Sosukes duty to protect, and there is the other the military drama. Each exists very much in its own sphere, but the interchange between the two is extremely jarring, not to mention frequent. The transition (or lack thereof) is felt so keenly because of the sudden shift in tone that each brings with it.
The aforementioned military aspect, essentially acts as the action segment of the show, what with it parlaying all the mecha stuff into these stretches. Its kind of an odd atmosphere that it lends to the rest of the show, given that it has an almost fastidious approach to how it presents this material. This is to say that its all played surprisingly straight, with the middle section of the narrative conveying a tone that is much darker than anything else in the entire series - something which it doesnt at all justify. Its unfortunate that this section is awash with needless filler, as it bogs it down immeasurably. To their credit, they do try to directly feed some of these events into Sosukes character, but for as much as its leveraged; it isnt really worth the three episode sojourn that it takes. Its the architect of its downfall in this respect, with the execution of the material neither possessing the brevity, nor the nuance to pull off this precarious balancing act.
Perhaps its those broad strokes that endear this show to some, but for me, I wish that it would just decide what kind of story it wants to tell and stick with it. Instead, what we end with is entertaining, though I couldn't quite shake he feeling that it could have been so much more than the sum of these parts. The characters are entertaining, and as mentioned, the premise does allow for some good stuff, but its blighted by inconsistency. There isnt really any sort of forward momentum to anything that happens, with there being a real lack of clarity on where (or how) the story intends to conclude. No better is this embodied in the series main antagonist, Guaron. It speaks volumes that its a role that doesnt really become defined until well after the halfway point
Guaron isnt a bad villain; in fact, hes a pretty good one, being ridiculously dastardly and of all things, actually comes across as a legitimate threat. But therein lies the problem with the character, the writers is a little too enamoured with him. It quickly becomes apparent that they have no conviction to completely erase him from the plot as he slides into each major event, forgetting that death is indeed final. Its extremely silly, but I guess it kinds of feed into the notion that hes such a bombastic foil - that absolutely nothing can stop him. But amidst all this, there isnt any real conflict for this force to hinge on, rather that it feels as though he simply exists as busywork. He acts bad, he is bad, but we dont really know why. His motives are so shallow, that when they (or the lack thereof) are actually revealed, it kinds of take any sort of tension out of the final few episodes
One of the core conceits of the actual plot is left unaddressed until a couple of episodes away from the conclusion, which strikes me as somewhat egregious. Though Its a detail that is sown early
, but even then, I dont think its acceptable to reference it the way they do. They attempt to thread together the dangling plot threads in the most haphazard way possible, that its just insulting. The equivalent of the script just throwing its hands up and saying "Oh, by the way." Its one thing to foreshadow, but its something else entirely to contrive plot developments. Its a simply a case of cognitive dissonance. To make this yet more irritating, said exposition is rife with abstract expressions, never really committing ,and only ever existing as a deus ex machina to resolve a specific story beat. The audience is hardly going to accept it as feeling natural and cohesive to the overall plot, when not even the story can manage that. I probably would have preferred it had they only alluded to these elements. There is something to be said for economy in storytelling.
I can already predict as to why most (and probably me) end up preferring the likes of Fumoffu. My favourite sections of this are the slice of life moments, specifically because it lets the interplay between Chidori and Sosuke breathe. Theres also the action which in itself, isnt at all shabby. Its just that its always a vehicle to contrive a situation between the pair, or transition between arcs. When its used so overtly as a bridge, its difficult to find that quite as exciting as what it precedes.
Initially when trying to surmise my thoughts, I thought that FMP seemed analogous to an 80s action film (not least of all for the clear A-Team references the main theme carries). It presented itself as unassuming and fun, but in a way that left you satisfied. As I moved further into the episodes though, a different parallel seemed much more fitting. It ended up evoking a much more modern comparison, what with its tendency to perhaps get a little more serious than it had any right to be. It pretends to be one thing, all the while wanting to be something else entirely. All things considered, It was at least worth the time I spent with it. There's certainly enough here to whet my appetite for what comes next.
Summary: More kiss kiss. Less, bang, bang.
To an extent, much of my enjoyment was derived from not knowing exactly how this show was supposed to present itself.
I know that it was popular, just not the reasons as to why. That said, it turns out that it isnt entirely dissimilar to a whole raft of anime, perhaps even in generic in its structure. Yes, it takes place in a high school, and it does have a male and female lead. The caveat being that there is a shadowy organization afoot, intent on catching a girl by the name of Chidori - for even more shadowy reasons. Sosuke arrives to protect her, socially inept but practically adept. He is there to safeguard her personal life, but seems to be much better at sabotaging her personal one.
The show works best when it functions within the confines of its school setting, not least of all because it allows for its two leads to interact with one another. Which makes it surprisingly that the show seems intent on straying away from this dynamic, whenever possible.
Ostensibly starting off with a not too dissimilar slice of life premise, I assumed the military conceit was just that something that would never really figure into the narrative proper. As it turns out, this is true, to a degree. Therein lies my main problem with FMP. It sets out to achieve one thing, and it does. Though the fish-out-of-water setup is hardly novel, its executed with aplomb, with both Sosuke and Chidori being likeable leads, and the extended cast are more than up to the task. The high school scenes are perhaps the best parts of the entire show, with Sosukes militaristic diligence being juxtaposed with his utter lack of social graces, as he sets out to protect Chidori by any means he sees fit. Its entertaining stuff; with Chidoris bemusement at her plight (with seemingly most of the animation effort going into her range of expressions) both being amusing, whilst also not feeling like your typical relationship. Their dynamic is fun, and though romantic overtures are present, it never really feels like its overbearing.
It perhaps flows through these formative episodes so smoothly, that when it does rather abruptly shift away from this particular rhythm the show never really feels as assured again. Its this early promise that both led me to the very end of the series, along with lamenting what I was ultimately left with. The makeup of the show exists in two distinct parts, and its the weight of juggling these two that ultimately sours proceedings. There is the normal aspect of the show - which deals with Sosukes duty to protect, and there is the other the military drama. Each exists very much in its own sphere, but the interchange between the two is extremely jarring, not to mention frequent. The transition (or lack thereof) is felt so keenly because of the sudden shift in tone that each brings with it.
From a narrative standpoint, it makes sense why they would want to establish this arc, but tonally its so jarring and inconsistent (not to mentioned, ultimately inconsequential) against the remainder of the show, that it makes you wonder if it would have been better off without it.
The aforementioned military aspect, essentially acts as the action segment of the show, what with it parlaying all the mecha stuff into these stretches. Its kind of an odd atmosphere that it lends to the rest of the show, given that it has an almost fastidious approach to how it presents this material. This is to say that its all played surprisingly straight, with the middle section of the narrative conveying a tone that is much darker than anything else in the entire series - something which it doesnt at all justify. Its unfortunate that this section is awash with needless filler, as it bogs it down immeasurably. To their credit, they do try to directly feed some of these events into Sosukes character, but for as much as its leveraged; it isnt really worth the three episode sojourn that it takes. Its the architect of its downfall in this respect, with the execution of the material neither possessing the brevity, nor the nuance to pull off this precarious balancing act.
Perhaps its those broad strokes that endear this show to some, but for me, I wish that it would just decide what kind of story it wants to tell and stick with it. Instead, what we end with is entertaining, though I couldn't quite shake he feeling that it could have been so much more than the sum of these parts. The characters are entertaining, and as mentioned, the premise does allow for some good stuff, but its blighted by inconsistency. There isnt really any sort of forward momentum to anything that happens, with there being a real lack of clarity on where (or how) the story intends to conclude. No better is this embodied in the series main antagonist, Guaron. It speaks volumes that its a role that doesnt really become defined until well after the halfway point
Guaron isnt a bad villain; in fact, hes a pretty good one, being ridiculously dastardly and of all things, actually comes across as a legitimate threat. But therein lies the problem with the character, the writers is a little too enamoured with him. It quickly becomes apparent that they have no conviction to completely erase him from the plot as he slides into each major event, forgetting that death is indeed final. Its extremely silly, but I guess it kinds of feed into the notion that hes such a bombastic foil - that absolutely nothing can stop him. But amidst all this, there isnt any real conflict for this force to hinge on, rather that it feels as though he simply exists as busywork. He acts bad, he is bad, but we dont really know why. His motives are so shallow, that when they (or the lack thereof) are actually revealed, it kinds of take any sort of tension out of the final few episodes
The likes of Tessa add a freshness to the latter half of the series, though, by that point, it seems wholly committed to being serious. It's a shame we don't get to spend more time with the extended cast.
One of the core conceits of the actual plot is left unaddressed until a couple of episodes away from the conclusion, which strikes me as somewhat egregious. Though Its a detail that is sown early
(having Chidori being protected, due her mysterious talents)
I can already predict as to why most (and probably me) end up preferring the likes of Fumoffu. My favourite sections of this are the slice of life moments, specifically because it lets the interplay between Chidori and Sosuke breathe. Theres also the action which in itself, isnt at all shabby. Its just that its always a vehicle to contrive a situation between the pair, or transition between arcs. When its used so overtly as a bridge, its difficult to find that quite as exciting as what it precedes.
Initially when trying to surmise my thoughts, I thought that FMP seemed analogous to an 80s action film (not least of all for the clear A-Team references the main theme carries). It presented itself as unassuming and fun, but in a way that left you satisfied. As I moved further into the episodes though, a different parallel seemed much more fitting. It ended up evoking a much more modern comparison, what with its tendency to perhaps get a little more serious than it had any right to be. It pretends to be one thing, all the while wanting to be something else entirely. All things considered, It was at least worth the time I spent with it. There's certainly enough here to whet my appetite for what comes next.
Summary: More kiss kiss. Less, bang, bang.
hipbabboom
Huh? What did I say? Did I screw up again? :(
Miss Monochrome The Animation Episode 10
Cameos?! Miss Monochrome's manager always gets the best hookups.
A
bigot and a rapist
Joe Molotov
Member
Watch Fumoffu, disregard everything else.
I was just about to say... watch Fumoffu. lol
It has pretty much everything Kaz wants.
Joe Molotov
Member
dat rugby episode, oh lawd!
Youve started something special!
R_thanatos
Member
Seriously? Like is this intentional? Like the car floating is supposed to represent how the whole sequence is some sort of illusion? But if that's the case then why does the car hit the rock as if it was driving on the road itself? Also if the car was floating, seems like somebody would have commented on a BTTF style hovercar showing up.
I've just seen the episode and
YES it was intentionnal.
and yes it was an illusion and yes it was supposed to float.
The rock went off because it was some wort of power at work ( like in those shonen shows )
And yes the cast commented that they had no idea what just happenned.
In short i got it by a hype gif and was disapointed when the real scene came.
Heck at least kon was there ( even if her running gag shouldn't have been there too )
Kidding that is just the escuse of a production error, they made the car float because they realised that their cg car wheels weren't animated.
Simple as that
Simple as that
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