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Fallout New Vegas |OT| Obsidian does what Bethesdon't

I just picked this up for $5 on my PS3. I played (not finished) on my PC before until the part where I
choose what to do with the robots
but then I stopped.

Then I played FO3 and loved it. I just don't feel like FNV feels as good as 3. Am I alone in this?

Also, the DLC worth it? $10 a piece is a lot
What kinda content we talking here?

Overall I really like both games but personally I like NV better. I do think that the Capital Wasteland is a more interesting physical setting but the story telling in NV along with all of the subtleties make it the superior game imo. Regarding the DLC, Broken Steel is a new ending and allows you to keep playing after the end. It's pretty good. Point Lookout is excellent, really well done, oozing with atmosphere and pretty big. The other ones are pretty...bleh.
 

Sajjaja

Member
Overall I really like both games but personally I like NV better. I do think that the Capital Wasteland is a more interesting physical setting but the story telling in NV along with all of the subtleties make it the superior game imo. Regarding the DLC, Broken Steel is a new ending and allows you to keep playing after the end. It's pretty good. Point Lookout is excellent, really well done, oozing with atmosphere and pretty big. The other ones are pretty...bleh.
I mean the DLC for New Vegas
 

bjork

Member
Are you looking for Loyal? Sometimes he ends up at Black Mountain for some reason.

As for your question, I think as far as Boone goes you're out of luck. But if I read the wiki right, you can still travel to Arcade's locations regardless if you've been there or not and he'll still comment about them. I'm 115 hours in and he's the only companion quest I have left so I'll be pretty upset if I can't finish it.

Is he just at black mountain or actually IN it? I read that on the fallout wiki and went to BM, cleared out all the super mutants and nightkin, but could find no trace of Loyal.
 

bjork

Member
If you want to see everything and flesh out everyone's stories, you sort of need the DLCs to do so. If you want just one DLC and you liked FO3 better than FNV, I think Lonesome Road is the one that feels the most like FO3 as far as the atmosphere goes. They all have unique items and each one boosts your level cap as well.

The Gun Runners' DLC adds some new weapons and challenges, but if you're late-game enough in the story tree, you may have missed the opportunity to complete some of them.
 

bjork

Member
Ran through Honest Hearts yesterday. I like the fairly devastation-free environment, but it's so short that it is fairly forgettable. I didn't remember it being that quick. Just gotta run through Lonesome Road, try to finish (if possible now) the companion quests for Boone/Arcade/Raul, and then I'm done aside from achievements for damage and caravan.
 

_Isaac

Member
Hey do any of you know if it's possible to transfer an Xbox 360 F:NV save to a PC game save? I'm thinking of buying the Bethesda collection on Steam because it has NV and all the DLC as well as Skyrim, but i wanted to continue with the same character on NV.
 

bjork

Member
Blew through Lonesome Road, that's honestly my favorite of the DLCs. I wouldn't mind a full game like that, with very little NPC interaction and the grim atmosphere.
 

water_wendi

Water is not wet!
For those that have played a non kills playthrough: How did you manage this? You did kill monsters, right? I assume you did not kill humans.
i dont know about the DLC but its possible to complete the entire vanilla game with a very high percentage of quest completion without killing anything, human, animal, or other. This takes into account having companions do the killing for you. You just sneak by and run from those you cannot talk with. Without weapon skills your non-combat skills will all be maxed so you can approach almost all problems from whatever angle you choose (Speech, Science, Barter). i think i had almost 100 dialogue successes by the end of the game.

Anyways, its most definitely doable and, imo, highly rewarding.
 

Labadal

Member
i dont know about the DLC but its possible to complete the entire vanilla game with a very high percentage of quest completion without killing anything, human, animal, or other. This takes into account having companions do the killing for you. You just sneak by and run from those you cannot talk with. Without weapon skills your non-combat skills will all be maxed so you can approach almost all problems from whatever angle you choose (Speech, Science, Barter). i think i had almost 100 dialogue successes by the end of the game.

Anyways, its most definitely doable and, imo, highly rewarding.

Thanks for anwsering. I've done Goodsprings without firing a single shot. Selling all weapons and ammo and buying food and drinks (my first time on hardcore).

You gave me an important anwser, companions will do the killing. I didn't really think much about that.
 

Tess3ract

Banned
Just started my first NV DLC, Dead Money.

I guess it's supposed to be "hard" in that "HAHA I TOOK ALL YOUR SHIT AWAY" but I've been playing for 10 minutes and I already found a helmet and a lazer pistol with like 60 rounds and repaired my hologun that was pushed on me as being "old and not a lot of ammo for it"

Kind of makes that a bit useless...

Also project nevada owns, helmets show up in first person with a cool viewport and overlay, sunglasses tone bloom way the fuck down so you don't get blinded, Remnant power armor gives you visor modes where you can easily see cloaked dudes or npcs in low light, etc

fucking amazing.
 

water_wendi

Water is not wet!
Thanks for anwsering. I've done Goodsprings without firing a single shot. Selling all weapons and ammo and buying food and drinks (my first time on hardcore).

You gave me an important anwser, companions will do the killing. I didn't really think much about that.
i should clarify. Companions did no killing.

edit: From memory the only things i couldnt complete were the quest where you kill the ants on the highway (its very straightforward) and the quest to acquire Boone and by extension his companion quest.
 

duckroll

Member
Just started my first NV DLC, Dead Money.

I guess it's supposed to be "hard" in that "HAHA I TOOK ALL YOUR SHIT AWAY" but I've been playing for 10 minutes and I already found a helmet and a lazer pistol with like 60 rounds and repaired my hologun that was pushed on me as being "old and not a lot of ammo for it"

Kind of makes that a bit useless...

Also project nevada owns, helmets show up in first person with a cool viewport and overlay, sunglasses tone bloom way the fuck down so you don't get blinded, Remnant power armor gives you visor modes where you can easily see cloaked dudes or npcs in low light, etc

fucking amazing.

It's not "hard" in the "haha i took all your shit away" way. It's actually a pretty interesting scenario because it's designed to punish players who like to rush through areas without thinking or paying attention. Taking your shit away is just part of the atmosphere, it doesn't really make the game much harder. :)
 

Labadal

Member
i should clarify. Companions did no killing.

edit: From memory the only things i couldnt complete were the quest where you kill the ants on the highway (its very straightforward) and the quest to acquire Boone and by extension his companion quest.

Oh, interesting. Then I might not bother with companions this time. I can never keep them from attacking hostile creatures/humans. Time to get sneaky.

For the first time, Easy Pete survived. I salute his heroism.
 

water_wendi

Water is not wet!
Oh, interesting. Then I might not bother with companions this time. I can never keep them from attacking hostile creatures/humans. Time to get sneaky.
Yea i generally just left them behind.

Be prepared.. the most difficult part of my playthrough was Primm. My advice is to stick to the objective when you are in the hotel. Dont go off in search of loot. Go in and get out. Its difficult because at that low level your Sneak skill isnt anything special. Especially when you have to make choices during the early level-ups (do i get to a Speech/Lockpick/Science milestone of 25/50 so i can get access to more XP or do i pump up Sneak?).

Also.. dont worry about money. Without the need for weapons and by extension repairing and ammunition purchases, you will be swimming in caps with little effort. Armor doesnt deteriorate anywhere near as quickly as weapons. This also makes traveling easy because you dont need to really loot anything except the necessities.

The only other advice i can think of at the moment (which is probably useless to you now) is to start with the Good-Natured trait.
 

Labadal

Member
I started with Good Natured since it seemed vital for this kind of playthrough early on. I also started with high intelligence for maximum skill points. Also picked Small Frame for +1 agility.

Perks will make it easy max out the skills I want.

I'll post my progress from time to time.
 

Montresor

Member
Early game spoilers incoming (or mid game spoilers... I don't know, I'm 25 hours in, but I've spent LOADS of time exploring and doing side quests):

I lost one fucking hour of game play after being stuck in the presidential suite at the Lucky 38.

Luckily I don't have to do much. My most recent save has me right in front of Caleb Mcaffrey... so that means, if my memory serves me right, all I have to do is convince him to give me his hat, spare his life, go to the Atomic Wrangler, complete the Debt Collector quest, then come back to the strip, explore all the rooms of the Gomorrah (I have to, I don't think I got anything useful aside from starting up the quest with the brunette prostitute, but something about Fallout games will make me seize up if I don't explore every room), then go to the Lucky 38 and talk to you-know-who... Damn, it makes me not even want to pop in the game.
 

Montresor

Member
Good god the programming in this game is so fucking amateurish.

I'm doing the "Birds of a Feather" quest. The second major errand (after playing bodyguard in front of the Silver Rush) is to take a package from Gloria Van Graff and deliver it to a man at a designated location. I did that and returned to Graff headquarters at the Silver Rush. The next errand was to be given to me by Jean-Baptiste Cutting. Before I could commit to the job, I asked "So what exactly do I need to do for you?"

Jean-Baptiste responds with "No fuck that, that's not how it works, either you're in or out." Because I know Jean-Baptiste is a scumbag who will probably ask me to murder someone, I say, I'm out!

As soon as the conversation is over, the "Birds of a Feather" quest gets updated as if I accepted Jean-Baptist's job. In the top left of my screen I see, "Quest update: Find Rose of Sharon Cassidy and get her to follow you." When I tried to talk to Jean-Baptiste afterwards, his first words are "Have you found the bitch yet?"

=/ Now when I try to talk to him, I get nothing but "Have you found the bitch yet" from him - there are no options to find out who this woman is and why she wants me to find her and what he wants me to do with her (get her to follow me doesn't sound like it'll end well, so my gut feeling about him was right).

edit: So it doesn't sound like I'm nitpicking on just one aspect of the game, this kind of annoying thing has happened twice before:

1) The first time I ever entered the Silver Rush, I started moving around and was instantly killed. I didn't know why at first. When I re-loaded my auto save, I found out it was because the game wanted me to listen in on a conversation between Gloria Van Graff and a petulant client. That is such bad design, honestly... they programmed this sequence so that you'd be forced to stay inside an invisible perimeter in the Silver Rush lobby and listen in on said conversation, otherwise the guards would kill you. But it is so dark in the Silver Rush, and this conversation of theirs is so quiet, that the moment you encounter this sequence you have no idea what is going on and start walking casually and get killed instantly by the guards.

2) Regarding the White Glove Society and Henderson's son: After I crashed Mortimer's dinner party with Henderson and showed the entire White Glove Society that Mortimer was a heretic and a cannibal, I killed Mortimer right there ("He's a criminal, cannibal is punishable by death!!!"). Motherfucking incomprehensibly, if I exit this room, the White Glove Society is attacking me every chance they get. There was no way for me to return Henderson to his father without having to murder every single White Glover, including Marjorie herself (the leader). When I killed Mortimer the other White Glovers were standing around like I had done them a great favour. I exposed a cannibal who had tried to feed them all human flesh. I SAVED them, and then I get stuck in an inescapable bout of hostility with the White Glovers....

3) Also, I'm trying to do "Nothing but a hound dog" and trying to get Rex to follow me, but it keeps saying "You can only have one follower at a time." Good grief man, who thought up this shit? I'm running around for 25+ hours with Boone and ED-E following my ass, yet the game has the balls to say I can only have one follower at a time? The game was trying to tell me I can only have one robotic follower at a time, evidently. I sent ED-E packing and now I have Rex following me. Phew.

edit2:

I should say, I love with this game. I'm easily gonna invest 100 hours into this (maybe more, with the DLC, and the extra playthroughs). I love the characters, the vegas strip, the factions, the entire lore in this game (and Fallout 3 as well). But the above four points are really aggravating.
 

Evolved1

make sure the pudding isn't too soggy but that just ruins everything
Oh man, I forgot how bad the animation was in this game... haha. :(

I had sold it a while ago, but for whatever reason I went out earlier today and bought it again. Probably a mistake. Oh well.
 

bjork

Member
=/ Now when I try to talk to him, I get nothing but "Have you found the bitch yet" from him - there are no options to find out who this woman is and why she wants me to find her and what he wants me to do with her (get her to follow me doesn't sound like it'll end well, so my gut feeling about him was right).

I have one like this for a quest you get at Mojave Outpost. I never went there on this playthrough, and then randomly I had a quest in my questlog from someone at Mojave Outpost. The quest had the first part checked off as if I'd already done it. So I go talk to the person, and it was stuck in a dialogue loop that wouldn't let me finish the quest. I got it off my quest log by becoming hidden and getting a critical kill on the quest giver with my Pew Pew.
 

bjork

Member
I'm all done! Finished the achievements, cleared out the deathclaw promontory, and finished Arcade's companion quest. I had three quests I simply couldn't finish (one due to glitching, listed in the post above, and Raul and Boone's companion quests), but aside from that I feel okay. That makes Fallout 3, New Vegas, and Skyrim that I've played all this year, so I think I need something much lighter to play now. Serious Bethesda fatigue!
 
Hey guys.

I never had any problems in Fallout 3. I feel like I know how to make a semi-decent character, and I got through F3 with little issue, and had a great time.

But something about New Vegas isn't sitting with me. No matter what I do or what kind of character I create I'm getting my ass kicked.

Is there something you need to do different in NV to create a successful character, or does anyone have any tips on what I can do?

Thanks.
 

Fjordson

Member
Hey guys.

I never had any problems in Fallout 3. I feel like I know how to make a semi-decent character, and I got through F3 with little issue, and had a great time.

But something about New Vegas isn't sitting with me. No matter what I do or what kind of character I create I'm getting my ass kicked.

Is there something you need to do different in NV to create a successful character, or does anyone have any tips on what I can do?

Thanks.

I don't really have any useful tips =[ I just made sure to focus on small guns and speech at first, and then lockpick and I think science after.

I only played on normal, though. I got my ass handed to me a few times in the beginning, but didn't have much trouble after a few hours. I remember jacking the Blade Runner gun from the Novac gift shop helped me a lot :lol
 

_Isaac

Member
Hey guys.

I never had any problems in Fallout 3. I feel like I know how to make a semi-decent character, and I got through F3 with little issue, and had a great time.

But something about New Vegas isn't sitting with me. No matter what I do or what kind of character I create I'm getting my ass kicked.

Is there something you need to do different in NV to create a successful character, or does anyone have any tips on what I can do?

Thanks.
How long have you been playing? You might want to consider taking on some partners to help you out a bit.
 

hemtae

Member
Hey guys.

I never had any problems in Fallout 3. I feel like I know how to make a semi-decent character, and I got through F3 with little issue, and had a great time.

But something about New Vegas isn't sitting with me. No matter what I do or what kind of character I create I'm getting my ass kicked.

Is there something you need to do different in NV to create a successful character, or does anyone have any tips on what I can do?

Thanks.

FO3 had a lot more skill points to mess around with along with a perk at every level. Try going for a more specialized build at the beginning and picking up some followers.
 

Lancehead

Member
Hey guys.

I never had any problems in Fallout 3. I feel like I know how to make a semi-decent character, and I got through F3 with little issue, and had a great time.

But something about New Vegas isn't sitting with me. No matter what I do or what kind of character I create I'm getting my ass kicked.

Is there something you need to do different in NV to create a successful character, or does anyone have any tips on what I can do?

Thanks.

If you find the early going tough, recruit companions. After Goodsprings, take the main road to Primm -> Nipton -> Novac. Stick to the road, and you should meet minimum resistance. At Novac recruit Boone who is quite deadly (too deadly, in fact). You can also recruit Ed-E at Primm if you have the required parts or Repair or Science.

As for levelling up your character, remember that the game has little to no level-scaling. So at lower levels you'll have tough times against most enemies. Avoid fights if you can; once you become powerful enough you can come back and deal with them. And don't spread out your skill points too much, you have less points to distribute here than in Fallout 3. First specialise in skills that you want your character to be defined with (same with perks). Later you can expand. By the time you reach level cap of 50 (including the DLC) you'll be powerful in many skills.
 

Montresor

Member
Wild Card: Side Bets spoiler: Gosh what does the game mean when it says
remind the yes man that I want to ignore a faction
?

Edit: Fixed the post to please the poster below me.
 

moojito

Member
It clearly means
batman killed dumbledore. Seriously, what the hell is the point of putting stuff in a spoiler tag without any kind of indication what is being spoiled?
 
Wild Card: Side Bets spoiler: Gosh what does the game mean when it says
remind the yes man that I want to ignore a faction
?

Edit: Fixed the post to please the poster below me.

any factions you don't tell yes man to ignore will be wiped out when you rise to power. it's mostly an rp choice as I don't think it has any impact outside the ending sequence.
 

j-wood

Member
Hey guys I have a quick question. I recently bought the ultimate edition on STEAM, and when i booted the game up, it appeared to load all the DLC.

My question is, what exactly is the "data files" option in the launcher? When I opened it up, the only thing checked was falloutnv. None of the DLC was checked. Should they be?
 

water_wendi

Water is not wet!
Hey guys.

I never had any problems in Fallout 3. I feel like I know how to make a semi-decent character, and I got through F3 with little issue, and had a great time.

But something about New Vegas isn't sitting with me. No matter what I do or what kind of character I create I'm getting my ass kicked.

Is there something you need to do different in NV to create a successful character, or does anyone have any tips on what I can do?

Thanks.
Are you using mods? Some mods up the difficulty a ton.
 

hemtae

Member
Hey guys I have a quick question. I recently bought the ultimate edition on STEAM, and when i booted the game up, it appeared to load all the DLC.

My question is, what exactly is the "data files" option in the launcher? When I opened it up, the only thing checked was falloutnv. None of the DLC was checked. Should they be?

Yes
 

Alchemy

Member
When should I bother with the DLC? I was hoping that the DLC allowed me to continue completed games so I can finish the main story and jump over to the DLC, but I guess that isn't the case. I'm just worried about jumping into the DLC too early.

DLC DLC DLC.

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DLC
 
When should I bother with the DLC? I was hoping that the DLC allowed me to continue completed games so I can finish the main story and jump over to the DLC, but I guess that isn't the case. I'm just worried about jumping into the DLC too early.

DLC DLC DLC.

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DLC

I did the DLC before the final quest. You can do it at pretty much any point, though I think dead money gives you a warning that you should be 20+ or something like that.
 

Lancehead

Member
When should I bother with the DLC? I was hoping that the DLC allowed me to continue completed games so I can finish the main story and jump over to the DLC, but I guess that isn't the case. I'm just worried about jumping into the DLC too early.

DLC DLC DLC.

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DLC

The latest you can play the DLC is before the final battle in the main story begins.

I would recommend start playing the DLC after you reach the Strip. That way you have gained some levels and acquainted with much of the gameplay and game world. Start with Honest Hearts since it scales with your level. Then Dead Money, Old World Blues and The Lonesome Road. You can go back to all the DLC locations after you complete them, except Dead Money.
 

Fjordson

Member
When should I bother with the DLC? I was hoping that the DLC allowed me to continue completed games so I can finish the main story and jump over to the DLC, but I guess that isn't the case. I'm just worried about jumping into the DLC too early.

DLC DLC DLC.

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DLC
I'd follow Lancehead's advice. You should be fine. Actually, the more pressing issue is starting them too late I think. It's better to get into them early enough so that you can actually take full advantage of the sweet loot you get.
 
Hey do any of you know if it's possible to transfer an Xbox 360 F:NV save to a PC game save? I'm thinking of buying the Bethesda collection on Steam because it has NV and all the DLC as well as Skyrim, but i wanted to continue with the same character on NV.

It's possible I just did it to my save
 

Alchemy

Member
The latest you can play the DLC is before the final battle in the main story begins.

I would recommend start playing the DLC after you reach the Strip. That way you have gained some levels and acquainted with much of the gameplay and game world. Start with Honest Hearts since it scales with your level. Then Dead Money, Old World Blues and The Lonesome Road. You can go back to all the DLC locations after you complete them, except Dead Money.

Thanks for the advice. I'm a tad worried about my combat effectiveness since I'm focusing on speech/lockpicking/science right now, but followers seem to help balance out my crappy combat effectiveness. But with enough explosives, I should be good!
 
I am getting the game from Blockbuster soon. Any general tips and tricks for me? I'm mostly in it for the story and the world, I'd like to make combat it as painless as possible. Thanks. (360 version so I won't have access to any mods.)

Also is playing without VATS a realistically viable option?
 
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