I'd say a good way to do the DLC is to get to the strip first, so you'll be at a good level. Start with Honest Hearts, follow it with Dead Money, Old World Blues, and finally Lonesome Road. You may do some exploration in the main game in between DLC. Once you finish the Lonesome Road, you can complete the main story. You can revisit all the DLC locations except Dead Money which is a one time trip.
I played and beat Fallout 3 back then however didn't get this one as I'm not really into casinos/gambling. Is it possible to enjoy the game even if you despise those?
Since I just talked about these DLC on the other thread...
Yeah.. getting to the strip is probably a good time to start looking at the DLC. The released other is probably the best IMHO ("Dead Money", "Honest Hearts", "Old World Blues" and "Lonesome Road") but except from Lonesome Road that should be last I don't think the order is that important.
Aside from some references in the main game and I think one interaction about one of your companions backstory, the DLCs are really apart from the main plot, so don't worry about that.
Dead Money can get a little though, so go prepared... but other then that, enjoy some very good DLCs.
Sorry if this has been asked, but what order should I do the DLC in, and when?
I'm really, really enjoying this game so far but I have the same complaint with this that I did with the Dragon Age Ultimate Edition, you start out with like five DLC quests right out of the gate with no context for when to do them or what they're about.
I could be wrong, but I'm assuming that some of them build off of stories from the game and probably wouldn't make a ton of sense if you did them right off the bat. And then I know that the Lonesome Road is the last DLC and that there's hints of the events of it in the other DLC and in the main game, but the quest isn't called Lonesome Road, and if you didn't know about it you could easily end up just randomly choosing it as your first quest.
Anyway, besides that one complaint the game is great. The writing is awesome, and I love the tone of the game. It mixes the gritty, apocalyptic stuff great with the light-hearted funny stuff. My favorite character so far is the Nightkin in the rocket factory who is seemingly taking orders from a voice in his head, I hope he shows up again at some point.
You should do them in the release order: Dead Money, Honest Hearts, Old World Blues and Lonesome Road.
I can't remember the names of their quest but:
* Dead Money involved visiting the Sierra Madre Casino, which you access it through a sewer grate in "Abandoned BoS Bunker"
* Honest Hearts has you joining the Happy Trails Caravan, which I think was in cave north of New Vegas
* Old World Blues requires you to interact with a crashed satellite in a drive-in cinema between Nipton and Primm
* Lonesome Road is accessed through the Canyon Wreckage. I can't remember where it was, exactly, but I think it was to the west of the I-15.
I played and beat Fallout 3 back then however didn't get this one as I'm not really into casinos/gambling. Is it possible to enjoy the game even if you despise those?
100%. You have to go into a few casinos (there are 3 working ones on the Strip) but you don't have to play a single hand or roll in any of the games. Entering the casinos is solely to talk to those in charge of each to do quests. I too don't care for casinos or gambling but enjoyed every second of the game.
I played and beat Fallout 3 back then however didn't get this one as I'm not really into casinos/gambling. Is it possible to enjoy the game even if you despise those?
Definitely. Those two "themes" I guess you could call them really don't factor into the entire game. You can gamble, but I only did it for like three minutes. Wasn't necessary. And there are casinos, but it's just a handful of them in the strip and nowhere else.
Anyway, besides that one complaint the game is great. The writing is awesome, and I love the tone of the game. It mixes the gritty, apocalyptic stuff great with the light-hearted funny stuff. My favorite character so far is the Nightkin in the rocket factory who is seemingly taking orders from a voice in his head, I hope he shows up again at some point.
I played and beat Fallout 3 back then however didn't get this one as I'm not really into casinos/gambling. Is it possible to enjoy the game even if you despise those?
You deal with a number of casino bosses in the main story as you pick and choose sides, but you don't have to gamble (roulette, blackjack etc), not even once.
Edit: As for the order of the DLC, Honest Hearts is the easiest one, based on difficulty. And playing Old World Blues before Lonesome Road makes most sense storywise.
Oh man, I only figured out it's possible to keep him alive after it was already too late. :/ How did you manage to get to him without killing any of his subordinates? They seemed to go hostile on me on sight so I delieved them a deadly dose of ... death.
I killed all of the other nightkin in the area, he didn't seem to mind. I even killed the jailer and another random nightkin after talking to Davison and he either didn't know or didn't care.
Did you not get to talk to him at all? If you have a save file not too much earlier I'd say it's definitely worth going back, his dialogue is hilarious.
When I got near him, he yelled "XXX told me you have been killing my kin, you deserve to die!" and attacked me. Looks like the game bugged out in your favor, I wish the same happened to me. :/
But yeah, I'm probably going to tinker with an earlier save just to see how insane his dialogue is. In that one wiki I came across it says he'll become hostile the moment you kill any Nightkin in the basement which seems pretty harsh even for a game that can be a bit unforgiving sometimes. Maybe something else determines whether he will become hostile or not.
I have been playing the original NV on 360 with current patches I am about 60 hours in, right after I installed Old World Blues and Lonesome Road I have been having more problems. A couple hours into Old World Blues about half the time I go into VATS the game bugs out completely, either slowing down to where controller buttons have no response or the camera gets so messed you can't see what to shoot. A reboot fixes it but this game in it's current form is way more buggy than Fallout 3 is on 360.
Playing the PS3 version for the first time myself. First FO game actually. Outside the game gets kind of choppy and seems to freeze from time to time. Inside, the game seems to run a lot better. Definitely not game breaking for me but that could be that I'm so sucked in it's fogging my judgement of this port. Love this shit, should have waited for this edition.
i don't think the PS3 version has any chance of being great by the very nature of what the DLC is doing to the engine, but starting a new game with all of it installed could potentially be the best way to experience it performance-wise. would be cool if anyone could confirm that.
i don't think the PS3 version has any chance of being great by the very nature of what the DLC is doing to the engine, but starting a new game with all of it installed could potentially be the best way to experience it performance-wise. would be cool if anyone could confirm that.
Wow, this game doesn't mess around sometimes. I ran into Vault 34 and spontaneously decided to clear it. I quickly noticed the entire thing is slightly irradiated. Oh well, I had a suit granting me 50% radiation immunity and a couple RadAways so I figured I'd survive down there. Plus, they surely only did this to scare people away and probably dedied to cut the player some slack by making the dungeon mostly linear, right? Well, they didn't! Plus, the lower levels actually had higher radiation and enemies which seemed to be a lot higher level than their brethren near the surface. I just barely made it with critical radiation sickness -- and suddenly my vision went blue which freaked me out something fierce and I just wanted to run for the exit.
Eventually, the blue-o-vision went away and it turned out I'd accientally downed a Nuka Cola Quartz! So yeah, I'm having fun.
There's one in particular (won't spoil it) that scared the shit out of me. To the point where I could barely explore. Just finished my quests in there as quickly as possible and got the hell out.
Well, to be fair, Vault 106 in Fallout 3 was also really fricking cool. It's good to know that they went all out when designing the Vaults in NV, I'm guessing most people really liked the vaults and sent them positive feedback about it.
I just had to bump this thread again because I got to Freeside today and it's impressing the hell out of me with how well-realized and alive it feels. Definitely one of the better towns in video games I've come across. I then got attacked by
four violent rolling-pin wielding grannies
because I selected the "Wild Wasteland" perk. Yep, this game is pretty damn brilliant.
I read awful things about Fallout 3 GOTY version for PS3.
Some said it becomes unplayable because of the DLC and there's no way to fix it. But I knew someone who played through it without many issues, so it's up to you.
I got it for £4 personally (CEX made a mistake when I picked up the normal edition), I'd say it's worth it if you have the patience for bugs, bugs, and more bugs. Got the problem where, the more you play, the slower the load times become, and the more frame-drops and stalls you get. Point Lookout was a big offender, piece of shit froze constantly for me in certain areas. Shame, because I loved the atmosphere (the quest with the spy was great, made me feel like an agent).
Be warned, this contains spoilers of the highest spoileriness. Only read this if you've finished the game!
Finally finished my first playthrough -- definitely won't be my last. I also haven't really touched the DLC yet. What an amazing game! I decided to
get rid of Mr. House when he ordered me to destroy the Brotherhood base because I couldn't bring myself to do it as I'd been travelling with Veronica for most of the time
. I confess hopping from town to town occasionally seemed to drag on a bit at the beginning of the game, but once I got to
Freeside
, the game really hit its stride and never seemed to stop. It's really amazing what they made the somewhat crappy Gamebryo engine do. One thing I'm a bit unclear about: Is it really possible to
get rid of certain tribes in New Vegas that you don't like
? I only seemed to have the option to
ignore most of them and after that, nothing much happened. I'd loved to have gotten rid of the Omertas or the Boomers as they seemed like huge jerks, but it didn't seem to work out
.
Oh yeah, the quotes in the credits were a really nice touch. Talk about old school!
I agree that this game is a lot buggier than FO3, though, even on 360. I was hit by the dreaded "Old Cowboy Hat" bug and the "can't load saves from the main menu" bug, but fortunately I quickly found workarounds for them online. I really couldn't help being reminded of the bugs found in the PC RPGs of yore, except, well, on a console.
get rid of certain tribes in New Vegas that you don't like
? I only seemed to have the option to
ignore most of them and after that, nothing much happened. I'd loved to have gotten rid of the Omertas or the Boomers as they seemed like huge jerks, but it didn't seem to work out
Hm I am quite interested in this game, but I am unsure if it is worth to pick up the PS3 version. I have a decent PC (Intel Celeron Sandy Bridge CPU @ 2,5GHz, 8 GB DDR3, Radeon 7750) which I built for playing World of Warcraft and Diablo 3. I guess it would be capable to run New Vegas at 1080p and max details. But I don't like the idea to fragment my game collection now. I have all my other games on PS3, all trophies... this sucks.
Hm I am quite interested in this game, but I am unsure if it is worth to pick up the PS3 version. I have a decent PC (Intel Celeron Sandy Bridge CPU @ 2,5GHz, 8 GB DDR3, Radeon 7750) which I built for playing World of Warcraft and Diablo 3. I guess it would be capable to run New Vegas at 1080p and max details. But I don't like the idea to fragment my game collection now. I have all my other games on PS3, all trophies... this sucks.
Hm I am quite interested in this game, but I am unsure if it is worth to pick up the PS3 version. I have a decent PC (Intel Celeron Sandy Bridge CPU @ 2,5GHz, 8 GB DDR3, Radeon 7750) which I built for playing World of Warcraft and Diablo 3. I guess it would be capable to run New Vegas at 1080p and max details. But I don't like the idea to fragment my game collection now. I have all my other games on PS3, all trophies... this sucks.
I sympathize with not wanting to fragment your collection, but with this one I would definitely just go PC. The PS3 version of NV is easily the worst of the three. And since it sounds like you can run it well, the PC version is easily the best. Better visuals + mods + console commands (invaluable tool in complicated RPG's like this for when something breaks).
Hey, picked this up recently from Amazon's B2G1 sale.
I'm at the strip, about level 13 or so. People seem to indicate this is a good time to DLC, should I start Dead Money now or wait? I also read that you lose your companions during the DLC, I assume you get them back after completing the DLC? I don't want to lose them
Hey, picked this up recently from Amazon's B2G1 sale.
I'm at the strip, about level 13 or so. People seem to indicate this is a good time to DLC, should I start Dead Money now or wait? I also read that you lose your companions during the DLC, I assume you get them back after completing the DLC? I don't want to lose them
From memory I think the recommended level for Dead Money was around 15-20 and it really is a challenging one as well, so I'd consider whether or not you're up for a complete and total change of pace...DM is pretty much 'survival horror', Fallout-style.
As for companions, they'll be dismissed immediately and go back to where you recruited them from, so ED-E will be back in Primm, Boone back to his daily routine at Novac, etc. For safety's sake, each DLC will have an 'Are you sure?' confirmation before you commit, so to avoid any potential bugginess later on I would ask them to leave manually before you enter any DLC area.
In terms of the order of DLC's, I say go according to their original releases: Dead Money, Honest Hearts, Old World Blues, and save Lonesome Road for last and experience it before the vanilla endgame. Story-wise they work really well in that order.
Edit: But certainly, for that last point, feel free to play them in any sequence you want as the narrative is flexible enough for everything to make sense.
No worries at all! Yep, definitely you'll be able to re-recruit them again just by asking when you come back. Any equipment you may have given them will be there in their inventories as well =)
In some cases, too, returning to the Mojave and having your friends back is a HUGE relief after what you'll go through with some of those DLC's... so yeah, extra emotional attachment as a bonus.
EDIT: This is shameless plug as well, but when you're done with the DLC's you might be interested in reading some interviews I had the fortune to do with Avellone and JE Sawyer about them. Links to each of them are spread over these twopages =)
I love this. Is not the first time when J.E. Sawyer comes with good arguments related to games and how games have become today. It seems that he misses some good old times, something that today most of the developers have lost.
Indeed, on both Fallout, I always was impressed by their dialogues, I never manage to get a right dialogue in my head after my NPC finish his words and when the content options appears, I was like; Yeah, I never thought of saything that to my NPC. It was like magic, especially the last dialogues of though guy negative attitudine answer at the bottom of my screen makes me laugh a lot.
J.E. Sawyer and Ken Levin are at least walking on the same road.
You should do them in the release order: Dead Money, Honest Hearts, Old World Blues and Lonesome Road.
I can't remember the names of their quest but:
* Dead Money involved visiting the Sierra Madre Casino, which you access it through a sewer grate in "Abandoned BoS Bunker"
* Honest Hearts has you joining the Happy Trails Caravan, which I think was in cave north of New Vegas
* Old World Blues requires you to interact with a crashed satellite in a drive-in cinema between Nipton and Primm
* Lonesome Road is accessed through the Canyon Wreckage. I can't remember where it was, exactly, but I think it was to the west of the I-15.
Came here to ask which quest is which. I just bought the UE and the quest names quickly flashes on your screen. And when you check your pip boy they're not even the actual names. Annoying.
I also would like to know what items exactly does the gun runners arsenal and courier stash have? All i know is im over cumberd. :/
There's one in particular (won't spoil it) that scared the shit out of me. To the point where I could barely explore. Just finished my quests in there as quickly as possible and got the hell out.
I beat NV last year for the 2nd time and never had messed with any of the DLC. Before I beat the main quest though I downloaded Dead Money but never dove in. Well, i spent the majority of the day (9 hours) playing through it and WOW. So fucking awesome. I guess since I hadn't played NV in awhile I just forgot how awesome this game was. I always burn myself out on Bethesda games, ie: Skyrim like 200 hours in the first month and still haven't beaten the main quest nor have I played it since.
I really enjoyed the atmosphere of Dead Money and feel they did a great job with the atmosphere. I employed stealth, action and there was a lot of reward for just looking around. My save is at level 35 and I am for sure going to pick up the rest of the DLC for NV soon. I guess Honest Hearts and then Old World Blues would be a good order. If they even come close to this experience it will be worth the money. Seriously, I was not expecting this DLC to take all day. I guess I underestimated/forgot how OCD I was in wRPGs.
Something midway through made me want to play Deus Ex again too (probably the stealth parts). This is what gaming is all about, I have been wasting way too much time on Diablo 3. Hours spent like this are far more enjoyable, it is nice to actually feel like I progressed a little bit and didn't just repeat the same shit over and over.
Avoid it like the plague, I beat the game plus all dlc's and it ran like complete crap towards the last 3 dlcs (I'm talking like 1fps/ freezes/ had to hard reset at least 20 times on the last DLC). Unless they fixed it somehow I would go with either pc or the xbox version.