Not really, the premise of the sow is how a group of everyday people react to the world as they know it ending. They were in the protection of the military in a baracked area, they wouldn't low or see most of what's going on in the rest of the world or even the city.
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Fear the Walking Dead - Season One - Sundays on AMC
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I keep seeing this post and thought people were joking first. Regular TWD is way better than Fear the Walking Dead.... Even in it worst times you always have a couple of characters you care about on TWD - but with Fear they are all just idiots.
Then again we are still early and this might chase at the end of this season.. But so far the only person I like on the show were the fat kid in the school who knew what was going on and cartel grandpa. Ever one else is just horrible and no one acts human.
But I kinda liked were they were going the last episode.... I really hope Travis stops being such a tool.
That is certainly what it turned into, but I was among those who was more interested in the city itself breaking down, not Madison, Travis, and family dealing with it behind a fence after a 9 day time-skip. They could have used Nick as the window to the outside and had him trapped in another drug den, trying to make his way to his family or something. Anything that would have shown us more of the actual collapse and people actually dealing with the infected up close while they figure out what's going on.
I've stated earlier that I still have some hope that they will include some of this in the next couple of episodes though.
It's not about the craziness for me - but if you can't really relate to the characters and there actions it gets bad real quick.
It can only get better though... That's while I'll finish this season.
aspiegamer
Member
I'm still giving this through the end of the season to see if I really like it, but there are a few things that have been extremely disappointing. The characters, largely, and some of the facepalm-tier stupid directing calls.
After this last episode I'm massively bummed that we're not going to see the actual decay of society, where I had thought that was one of the advertising points of this series. We went from the first night of things starting to go to hell on a broader scale to the military swooping in inexplicably, then jumped ahead 9 days? What? How did the city fall? How many people were truly evacuated versus "evacuated"? Was everyone in a panic or did the military swoop in and kill everyone before the public had a chance to really go nuts?
Presently I can't get through how the government knew this was a biohazard situation and was so extremely well organized for that before things really got out of hand. We know from TWD that the feds have no idea what's going on (remember the CDC arc?) but this time they do and had massive contingencies in place already? How is that possible? Why didn't Atlanta have any of these plans? It's entirely abandoned with zero military presence and no containment only a few days after things started. There also weren't any signs of premeditated slaughter like in LA.
After this last episode I'm massively bummed that we're not going to see the actual decay of society, where I had thought that was one of the advertising points of this series. We went from the first night of things starting to go to hell on a broader scale to the military swooping in inexplicably, then jumped ahead 9 days? What? How did the city fall? How many people were truly evacuated versus "evacuated"? Was everyone in a panic or did the military swoop in and kill everyone before the public had a chance to really go nuts?
Presently I can't get through how the government knew this was a biohazard situation and was so extremely well organized for that before things really got out of hand. We know from TWD that the feds have no idea what's going on (remember the CDC arc?) but this time they do and had massive contingencies in place already? How is that possible? Why didn't Atlanta have any of these plans? It's entirely abandoned with zero military presence and no containment only a few days after things started. There also weren't any signs of premeditated slaughter like in LA.
WickedLaharl
Member
So now Madison is portrayed by a terrible actress and as an idiot that disregards the safety of everyone.
Great. Can she just die already plz
Great. Can she just die already plz
Escape Goat
Member
I hope Coral and Meth guy have a team up someday.
It wouldn't surprise me if firearms are banned to help the military maintain order.
(Yeah, I'm trying to rationalize bad writing. It gives me something to do.)
as if TWD was known for it's likeable characters
Well... people used to like em, at least... remember when we all (we all = me and my wife) rooted for Daryl and Carol to be a couple?
I think most people like Michone a lot. Even in later seasons...
That is true.
But it also only goes so far. In the first days ok, it may be hard to talk about it. But when something this big happens i expect the family to get together and go "Ok people what do we know so far?" "How do we survive this?"
Of course we as audience already know everything they dont, but they need to bring fresh points of view and ideas so the show can be interesting.
btw, here´s the Abed picture i promised earlier. Im impressed that this isnt more popular on the internet. To me it describes perfectly the problem with The Walking Dead and Fear (i mean, if you change "scary" for "interesting")
More_Badass
Member
Not bad writing if it makes sense
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
There are 2 episodes left this season. The Walking Dead returns October 11.
What gives me pause is that Daniel was teaching Chris how to fire a gun and I believe the military had already arrived by then.
DudeWithNoName
Member
Actually, I think it ends up that she did grab it. I think she'll pop a soldier for one reason or another by the end of the season.
Giant Panda
Member
I was disappointed by the use of the evil military cliche. The last episode was feeling too much like the Governor arc from TWD.
LegalEagleMike
Member
The military had not arrived yet.
The Artisan
Member
when was there a 9 day jump? didn't catch that.
My mistake. These episodes have sorta blended together for me.
Chris mentions that in the very beginning when he's filming.
The main problem is that the characters don't have any defining characteristics:
Son - is a drug addict, ok that's something
Daughter - is supposedly smart because she got accepted into college, but what has she done that was actually smart?
Dad - is a dad
Mom - is a mom
At least in TWD you could tell what everyone's role was in a short amount of time; here it's been 4 episodes and no one has really stood out and made me say, "yes, this is the person I want to keep an eye on."
Son - is a drug addict, ok that's something
Daughter - is supposedly smart because she got accepted into college, but what has she done that was actually smart?
Dad - is a dad
Mom - is a mom
At least in TWD you could tell what everyone's role was in a short amount of time; here it's been 4 episodes and no one has really stood out and made me say, "yes, this is the person I want to keep an eye on."
John Rabbit
Banned
this is fair, but i suppose it (5 seasons of TWD) only serves to shine an even brighter light on the flawed concept of "zombie outbreak in a world where nobody has heard of zombies before". it just isn't interesting anymore. everyone feels like a paper-thin caricature of an archetype because anyone who made believable decisions would be too smart to trust anyone in this community. they had to make Ruben Blades' character kind of a stubborn asshole to make up for the fact that he was ahead of the curve on what was happening/is going to happen. they couldn't even sustain Tobias past episode 2 because he'd remove any reason for these dorks to be in real danger if they listened to him.
Sorry everyone isn't a top notch zombie killing badass all knowing walker fucking Jesus. This show is probably not your thing, just wait until the real mediocrity returns on 10/11.
Butts-a-plenty
Banned
Barber.
Fisticuffs
Member
I really like Nick (the druggie). I think he has been pretty realistic as far as addicts go. I hope to see some development for him.
The Artisan
Member
yeah that would be lame but couldn't that just be 9 days since he saw part of the riot on the streets?
Escape Goat
Member
The only way to make that ep the best ever is if Chris started filming a plastic bag caught in the wind.
BLOODED_hands
Member
Thanks!
Outside of GAF, everyone I know who watches both shows enjoys FTWD
H.Protagonist
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Despite disliking pretty much everyone, I'm still sort of interested in it. The slow pace is actually kind of nice when I keep expecting people to go zombie at any second. Still a bit eh. At least the ending of the episode was pretty good.
I said the same thing aloud when I watched it last night. -_-;
Yeah. This is what's killing it for me. I find everyone except the barber (and his wife since she seems wise to things as well) incredibly frustrating. Madison has glimpses of survivor-esque instincts, then goes and cuts a freaking hole in the fence to sneak out. Zero thought to the overall safety of everyone, and I can't even fathom why she would be interested in Daniel's flashing light house all of a sudden when she was so intent on playing house just minutes earlier. And her earlier 'don't tell Alicia' shit drove me up the wall. Why would you keep such crucial info from your daughter? As if the burning city and electricity going out wouldn't clue her in. People that hoard info get others killed. She's bloody lucky Nick produced a seizure in that earlier episode to keep her from running out. And Travis...argh. I'm with you on your assessment.
I said the same thing aloud when I watched it last night. -_-;
Yeah. This is what's killing it for me. I find everyone except the barber (and his wife since she seems wise to things as well) incredibly frustrating. Madison has glimpses of survivor-esque instincts, then goes and cuts a freaking hole in the fence to sneak out. Zero thought to the overall safety of everyone, and I can't even fathom why she would be interested in Daniel's flashing light house all of a sudden when she was so intent on playing house just minutes earlier. And her earlier 'don't tell Alicia' shit drove me up the wall. Why would you keep such crucial info from your daughter? As if the burning city and electricity going out wouldn't clue her in. People that hoard info get others killed. She's bloody lucky Nick produced a seizure in that earlier episode to keep her from running out. And Travis...argh. I'm with you on your assessment.
Escape Goat
Member
Something like this lol?
Yep.
poppabk
Cheeks Spread for Digital Only Future
I'm not sure why people don't get this. Her daughters boyfriend is dying and will become a walking corpse. She tells the daughter the boyfriend is going to die, the daughter will rush to his side without any thought, she almost did anyway with the city in ruin. So she keeps it from her until its too late for the daughter to do anything.
Zoe
Member
She hinted that addiction and/or mental issues run in her family and that it supposedly skipped her... but then we saw her beating her son in the latest episode. Given his reaction, I wouldn't be surprised if she beat him regularly when he was younger.
(surprised I haven't seen anyone else mention that, guess the hate is too strong)
H.Protagonist
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Right? I just wanted to throttle her. It made no sense at all. It's the kind of cheap device used in horror films so that people keep doing stupid shit and dying. It flies in the face of logic.
KibblesBits
Member
She's a drinker too.
crazyrabbits
Banned
To be fair, no one is really written that way in the series. It's repeatedly shown that the L.A. residents are either too vain or ignorant to realize that there's an outbreak happening in front of them. Alicia and her friends make fun of the viral video in the pilot. The rioters are initially complaining about police brutality against the homeless (which would be all well and good in normal society, but just exasperates the situation here). The rioters also ignore a man having his face chomped on by a walker, and Chris is the only one to notice. Travis and his neighbour even put their garbage out to the curb, despite the former knowing that the people across the street got eaten by a walker. It's also repeatedly suggested that there's a government conspiracy taking place, and information is being kept away from the public as much as possible.
The only one who really understands what's going on is Daniel, who states that he saw a situation like this (civil war/brutality) before and is reacting accordingly
Yeah, but Tobias wasn't any more capable than these characters. Despite the fact that he had apparently researched what was happening and knew what to do, the weapon he wanted was pitifully, embarrassingly small, and instead of trying to stab Artie in the head, he stabbed him in the chest to no effect (which would have resulted in his death if Madison hadn't eventually intervened).
He's no more capable than Travis is.
In the pilot episode (the scene when she and Travis are looking through the church), she implies that drug use is something that runs in the family. I wouldn't be surprised if she was a user/drinker herself, and coupled with the dad's disappearance, it drove Nick to start using as well.
The Artisan
Member
so are they trying to imply that she beat nick when he was younger? and the abuse/neglect was a contributing factor to him turning to hard drugs?
HadesGigas
Member
There's been hints that she has a violent past, yes. She gets all stone-faced (and now drinky) when she encountered with these violent/horrible situations.
It's probably also intentional that she is the only one in the family that has fought back against the zombies. The dad has been in "they're just sick! I hate guns!" mode, and the kids have been varying degrees of useless morons.
It's probably also intentional that she is the only one in the family that has fought back against the zombies. The dad has been in "they're just sick! I hate guns!" mode, and the kids have been varying degrees of useless morons.
H.Protagonist
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To be fair, Nick was the first one who fought back. After he shot his dealer and they went back, he hopped in that truck and mowed that zombie down in a vehicular double-tap, remember? It might be the only reason I still have a sliver of liking for him after taking that poor old guy's morphine. :/
You'd figure if that were true then Alicia would have figured out that it was the mom that did it.
More_Badass
Member
Wait, what? People think that scene implies that Madison beat Nick as a child?
Seriously?
Have you never read or seen any other book, movie, or show where a character slaps someone they care about, usually in a moment of frustration and disappointment?
i.e. Batman Begins
Seriously?
Have you never read or seen any other book, movie, or show where a character slaps someone they care about, usually in a moment of frustration and disappointment?
i.e. Batman Begins
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