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February Wrasslin' |OT| Did somebody not get what they wanted?
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British Monsoon
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Rikidozan's federation was JWA - Japan Pro-Wrestling Alliance.
Inoki, a student of Rikidozan, started his own promotion when the JWA folded, which he called New Japan Pro-Wrestling, dropping alliance from the title.
So it WAS new, in 1972
Just call it Shin Nihon Pro-Wrestling, if it makes you feel any better.
Inoki, a student of Rikidozan, started his own promotion when the JWA folded, which he called New Japan Pro-Wrestling, dropping alliance from the title.
So it WAS new, in 1972
Just call it Shin Nihon Pro-Wrestling, if it makes you feel any better.
cr_blah_blah
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Miz's figure four on NXT was so terrible. Every one of his reversals was executed confusingly awkward. He's the worst wrestler on the entire episode.
Serpentine
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and CAMACHO! Yeah there weren't a lot of good wrestlers on this episode
It's not a great episode. Big Cass was hilarious and the way they did the title match contract signing was entertaining, but nothing to write home about.
PHOENIXZERO
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He's "legit" now you know. With the badass MMA experience and a winning record from winning that fight where he barely defeated some fat guy that looked like he was pulled off the street.
It's amazing that a dude who has been in the business for a decade now can't properly do a submission that I'm sure most of us were able to pull off perfectly when we were in elementary school.
ertitoagus
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For the history:
Miz was main event at WM and CM Punk never was.... very very very sad
Miz was main event at WM and CM Punk never was.... very very very sad
He will do, one day. Probably WM31 even.
UberTag
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Evidently this is because Punk doesn't groom himself properly. At least that's what Meltzer and Alvarez have told me.
So weird how people aren't hearing what Bryan says. Alvarez talks about how Punk looked like crap for months now. And he's right, he had a shitty beard, his hair seemed to be messy and shitty on purpose too. Punk gave up in the company and it showed, his promo's were passive and lacking passion and you could see he stopped caring about what he was doing. And Alvarez is right that WWE would not make a guy that looks like that as the face of the company.
Alvarez also gives the note that it isn't inherent with Punk, it is about how he takes care of himself. He gives the example of Corey Graves, who works the same tattooed punk look, only Graves is actually well groomed and takes effort to make himself look good, while keeping the punk look still.
Punk is a good looking guy, and if he took care of himself better he would be very marketable, especially to women. It's not about his tattoos or punk look, you can have that and still look your best.
Punk is a good looking guy, and if he took care of himself better he would be very marketable, especially to women. It's not about his tattoos or punk look, you can have that and still look your best.
UberTag
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The whole "face of the company" thing is the issue I have a problem with. Since when has CM Punk gone on record saying he wants to be the face of the company? Seems to me he just wanted to close out WrestleMania and then take a vacation. Giving him that spot doesn't mean you still can't parade Cena & The Miz out and about on Fallon and other media PR events.
Punk definitely wanted that. He's said many times he wants to be THE guy in WWE, the top guy that's in Cena's spot. At some point in 2013 he gave up, though.
He even said, he used to argue with Creative all the time, but now he doesn't bother, he shows up for work, they tell him what he's doing that night, he goes out and does it, and he goes home. Punchclock stuff.
JesseEwiak
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Closing out Wrestlemania is being the 'face' of the company, during it's biggest week every year.
CM Punk wants to be recognized as the #1 guy in the company, that means he wants to be the face of the company. He's the best in the world and he's better than John Cena and everyone inside and outside of WWE should know this. He wants to be the poster boy, the main guy on the promo's and all the other merch, the guy that closes the show and is on the side of the WWE trucks and front and center on the PPV graphics.
Well, if that is what he wants, he might want to wash his hair at some point. It isn't a big hassle.
So, if you're not putting Bryan in the championship match at Mania... How about they make Triple H vs. Bryan a ladder match instead, price above the ring is a briefcase. If Triple H gets it then Bryan is fired or will never get a WWE Title Shot ever again. If Bryan gets it, it's a Money in the Bank briefcase.
Bryan gets the briefcase, Batista wins the title, Bryan comes out and teases a cash-in but doesn't, and challenges Batista to a title match (either at ER or that Monday's Raw) to win the title there.
Triple H gets his due, show closes out with YES-chants and everyone goes home happy.
Bryan gets the briefcase, Batista wins the title, Bryan comes out and teases a cash-in but doesn't, and challenges Batista to a title match (either at ER or that Monday's Raw) to win the title there.
Triple H gets his due, show closes out with YES-chants and everyone goes home happy.
toddhunter
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The WWE even created Punk his very own dimension to wrestle in.
You just can't make some people happy.
You just can't make some people happy.
Also for the history, the main event of Miz Vs Cena originally ended in a countout. No screwjobs, no shady circumstances, no interference stopping man getting into the ring, Cena just tackled Miz over a barricade and both got knocked out long enough to miss the 10 count.
Yeah, he had the slicked face hair and the shaved heel hair while he was champion. More recently, his style is just however it stuck after fucking AJ.
Marvel
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Not a fan of Punk myself... I prefer him when he is heel, but in the ring I still find him not that exciting and as of late sloppy, his current look is just awful and as a face it just doesn't click for me, specially when he does face promo's that last too long and seem to have no energy in them unlike they do when he's Heel.
His elbow drop from the top rope is also disgusting. Can't say I'm sad about him quitting.
BITW gimmick has always irritated me anyway.
His elbow drop from the top rope is also disgusting. Can't say I'm sad about him quitting.
BITW gimmick has always irritated me anyway.
The best face work he ever did was when he was feuding with John Laurinaitis I thought. He was energised and thinking about the possibility of becoming #1 in the company. But yeah, other than his match with Rollins on Raw, his matches haven't been great since Summerslam.
Not that they really gave him much to work with... As much as I love the Shield, 3 v 1 handicaps aren't very exciting.
that match was garbage.
Marvel
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Agree with you on the second point. The first not so much, I hated that Big Johnny angle personally. Best face work for me was the anti HHH/Steph stuff but that ended up with him getting buried by trips for no reason, killing his momentum almost. I think his wwe title loss to Dwayne got to him in a big way really... he works really hard but time after time wwe just seem to kill any momentum he gets and throw him back into midcard shit or random tag team shit and he's left to flounder.
The coasting that's been going on with him these past months has been painful to watch. A rest will do him some good, maybe a year or two from now he'll come back to the wwe but his attitude judging by his tweets suggest that he's not only kinda uninterested/fed up in the business but sick and tired of traveling. The latter which I totally get.
A lighter schedule and a bigger pay check down the line might get him back on side but who knows?
So's your face.
But seriously, in this era of 3 hour Raws featuring matches thrown together with no real purpose, it was an entertaining match. Not saying it's MOTY or anything.
British Monsoon
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Lol, Japan, why?
Female Nakamura is cute.
Female Nakamura is cute.
not my words. CM Punk was the one who said it was garbage
but I get what you are saying.British Monsoon
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Punk probably thought it was garbage because he was sloppy as hell during that match, but to dismiss the whole match is unfair to Rollins, who put in a great performance.
Hell, I enjoyed it, so what the fuck does CM Punk know?
Hell, I enjoyed it, so what the fuck does CM Punk know?
Lol, Japan, why?
Female Nakamura is cute.
not my words. CM Punk was the one who said it was garbage
Punk probably thought it was garbage because he was sloppy as hell during that match, but to dismiss the whole match is unfair to Rollins, who put in a great performance.
Hell, I enjoyed it, so what the fuck does CM Punk know?
Punk is so fucking burnt out he doesn't even know when he has an enjoyable match anymore. Unbelievable.
Something something decorum please.
BronsonLee
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LANAAAA
WHAT?
As long as we finally get ice cream bars, dammit.
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