Ninja Scooter
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except that they almost always resort to some sort of pseudo lesbian shit in their matches.
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except that they almost always resort to some sort of pseudo lesbian shit in their matches.
Problem is for everyone that can somewhat work they have another one that is terrible. basically all the women they called up just for the looks and had like only a couple of months in developmental.
I do understand the frustration of the women though. It is a shame what they have done to that part of the main roster.
serenewarfare
Banned
I disagree. The only ones who outright cannot work are Cameron, Eva, and Rosa. The rest can go to some degree. Passable at the very least and really great at the best.
Every two seconds on Total Divas: Blah, blah, blah, Bella brand. It's like the low point of man's existence listening to these vapid women obsess over their merchandise.
Oddly, Total Divas is totally watchable aside from the Bellas.
total divas told me that eva is good now
Don't trust anything said on Total Divas.
serenewarfare
Banned
Don't believe their lies.
The Mango Sentinel
Member
Yeah it's crazy how much progress the Bella's have made, especially Nikki. They were complete and utter shit just two or three years ago.
serenewarfare
Banned
I had never heard the story about how Ken Anderson became Ken Kennedy. Apparently he was forced to change his name by Vince because "Vince said he hates Ole Anderson so your last name can't be Anderson".
Vince is one of the weirdest persons ever...
El Pescado
Member
AHHHH!! Why would you say those two words together!? I want to rip my ears off every time I hear "Bella Brand." If you made s drinking game out of taking a shot every time one of them said that you'd be dead before the show was half over.
Too bad they both learned how to cut promos and bury your opponent from John Cena.
Serpentine
Banned
I saw a few of those NXT spoilers, only ones about the people used, and
I'm sure it'll all be cool in the end, but srsly wat
DREAM MATCH.
I'm sure it'll all be cool in the end, but srsly wat
DREAM MATCH.
Professor Beef
Banned
They got to wrestle before the PG Era though.
lovely ladies
Member
Best part about TD is crazy ass Natalia. Which is the total opposite from her role in Countdown... she sucks in those, second only to the Miz.
serenewarfare
Banned
Speaking of women, the main event of the next SHINE show looks awesome. The whole event will probably be great as always, but the main event looks especially great.
Marvel
could never
don't forget Total Divas Cena
I didn't see the full spoilers in one post, so here are DEM NXT SPOILERS. Really hot shit in terms of direction.
Dark match: Chad Gable def. Mike Rallis
Week 1:
Week 2:
Week 3:
Week 4:
Notes:
Dark match: Chad Gable def. Mike Rallis
Week 1:
- Show opens with a pre taped promo with William Regal saying that Kevin Owens doesn't run the place and that Owens will fight Adrian Neville in a non title match.
- Kevin Owens comes out for a promo saying he never lied about who he was and that everything he did was for him and his family. He said Sami Zayn is the past and he is focusing on the future and Finn Balor
- Rhyno def. Elias Sampson
- Backstage promo with Finn balor when Rhyno walks by and looks at him.
- Enzo Amore and Colin Cassady (w/Carmella) def. The Vaudevillains. Before the match, Enzo and Cass tell the Vaudevillains they have had their opportunities at the Tag Titles, now Enzo and cass are focused on getting theirs. After the match, Blake and Murphy talk trash to Enzo and Cass and tell Carmella that she can leave those two sewer rats and join them.
- Backstage promo with Adrian Neville talking about his match with Kevin Owens.
- CJ Parker comes out to the ring, upset that he wasn't on Takeover. He says NXT is over and he's shutting it down. He takes yellow caution tape and starts wrapping it around the ring. The tron starts to flicker and this leads to Solomon Crowe coming from the crowd and laying out CJ.
-Sasha Banks def. Blue Pants in a non title match
- Kevin Owens def. Adrian Neville in a non title match. Fantastic match. Make sure you see it.
- Kevin Owens comes out for a promo saying he never lied about who he was and that everything he did was for him and his family. He said Sami Zayn is the past and he is focusing on the future and Finn Balor
- Rhyno def. Elias Sampson
- Backstage promo with Finn balor when Rhyno walks by and looks at him.
- Enzo Amore and Colin Cassady (w/Carmella) def. The Vaudevillains. Before the match, Enzo and Cass tell the Vaudevillains they have had their opportunities at the Tag Titles, now Enzo and cass are focused on getting theirs. After the match, Blake and Murphy talk trash to Enzo and Cass and tell Carmella that she can leave those two sewer rats and join them.
- Backstage promo with Adrian Neville talking about his match with Kevin Owens.
- CJ Parker comes out to the ring, upset that he wasn't on Takeover. He says NXT is over and he's shutting it down. He takes yellow caution tape and starts wrapping it around the ring. The tron starts to flicker and this leads to Solomon Crowe coming from the crowd and laying out CJ.
-Sasha Banks def. Blue Pants in a non title match
- Kevin Owens def. Adrian Neville in a non title match. Fantastic match. Make sure you see it.
Week 2:
- Hideo Itami def. Bull Dempsey. Tyler Breeze attacks Hideo after the match, but Hideo makes a comeback.
- The Lucha Dragons def. Tye Dillinger and Jason Jordan when Jordan walks out on Tye.
- After the match, Tye is in the ring and says he won't leave until Jordan comes back out. He doesn't care who is in the next matchm he will fight them too. Out comes Baron Corbin.
- Baron Corbin def. Tye Dillinger
- Becky Lynch def. Bayley
- Finn Balor def. Brian Kendrick. Kevin Owens comes out for commentary but leaves halfway through. He comes back after the match and throws Riley over the announce table.
- The Lucha Dragons def. Tye Dillinger and Jason Jordan when Jordan walks out on Tye.
- After the match, Tye is in the ring and says he won't leave until Jordan comes back out. He doesn't care who is in the next matchm he will fight them too. Out comes Baron Corbin.
- Baron Corbin def. Tye Dillinger
- Becky Lynch def. Bayley
- Finn Balor def. Brian Kendrick. Kevin Owens comes out for commentary but leaves halfway through. He comes back after the match and throws Riley over the announce table.
Week 3:
- Tyler Breeze def. Adam Rose
- Wesley Blake and Buddy Murphy def. Sawyer Fulton and Angelo Dawkins
- Baron Corbin def. Tony Briggs. During the match, Kevin Owens comes out and stands over Alex Riley the entire time. Owens dumps a bottle of water on Riley and Riley has to be held back by Jason Albert. Riley storms off the set.
- Solomon Crowe def. Bull Dempsey
- Sasha Banks def. Charlotte in an NXT Women's Title Match. Another fantastic match. Charlotte got a standing ovation as she left.
- Wesley Blake and Buddy Murphy def. Sawyer Fulton and Angelo Dawkins
- Baron Corbin def. Tony Briggs. During the match, Kevin Owens comes out and stands over Alex Riley the entire time. Owens dumps a bottle of water on Riley and Riley has to be held back by Jason Albert. Riley storms off the set.
- Solomon Crowe def. Bull Dempsey
- Sasha Banks def. Charlotte in an NXT Women's Title Match. Another fantastic match. Charlotte got a standing ovation as she left.
Week 4:
- Enzo Amore and Colin Cassady def. the Lucha Dragons
- Alexa Bliss def. Carmella
- Alex Riley def. CJ Parker. Kevin Owens comes out after the match and says he's going to end Alex's in ring career.
- Tyler Breeze def. Hideo Itami
- Alexa Bliss def. Carmella
- Alex Riley def. CJ Parker. Kevin Owens comes out after the match and says he's going to end Alex's in ring career.
- Tyler Breeze def. Hideo Itami
Notes:
- Building was not 100% full, although that's not unusual the night after a Takeover special.
- The crowd popped huge for all of the returning faces.
- Before the final match of the night, they held a raffle for a replica NXT title signed by all of the participants from NXT Takeover: Rival. The raffle was won by a kid fighting several disabilities. Ric Flair presented him with the belt and the crowd gave him a standing ovation. Good stuff.
- Blue Pants had a tron video and music, although it was just Colin's singing of The Price is Right song.
- Outside of his name being mentioned by Kevin Owens in the first segment, there was no other mention of Sami Zayn to the live crowd.
- NXT returns to Full Sail on February 18 for another TV taping.
- The crowd popped huge for all of the returning faces.
- Before the final match of the night, they held a raffle for a replica NXT title signed by all of the participants from NXT Takeover: Rival. The raffle was won by a kid fighting several disabilities. Ric Flair presented him with the belt and the crowd gave him a standing ovation. Good stuff.
- Blue Pants had a tron video and music, although it was just Colin's singing of The Price is Right song.
- Outside of his name being mentioned by Kevin Owens in the first segment, there was no other mention of Sami Zayn to the live crowd.
- NXT returns to Full Sail on February 18 for another TV taping.
Marvel
could never
serenewarfare
Banned
It's sad that Ivelisse will probably never get another shot in NXT. She's the best in the world right now in terms of women in the ring, and the gimmick she plays in Shine would be a great addition to the NXT roster. She's just a killer. Goes out and gets shit done. The MMA stuff she incorporates into her work is so good. WHY MUST YOU BE SO HARD TO WORK WITH IVELISSE?
real_slime
Banned
the women's 4 way title match was the best match on the recent nxt special with no qualifications.
i don't even KNOW if the likes of the bellas are capable of doing that, although from what i understand paige definitely is and when she first came up she got a little bit of decent play up there but was quickly put through the 'Diva' sausage machine.
what's stopping them from treating the women's division in WWE like they do in NXT? i mean nobody gives a shit what is going on with the women's matches in WWE. once every few months they get to go for longer than 5 minutes and it's always a better use of time.
i get that the WWE is a sexist, racist and homphobic company but is this really the main reason for it? if there's awareness to make NXT the way it is, are the people behind WWE just completely oblivious?
there's an audience to cater to with good women's matches where right now there is just a break in the show which already has an hour of commercials.
watching sasha banks i always think - she's actually really good at the ring work, but her gimmick is pretty close to a standard Divas gimmick as it is and you just know when she goes up she'll keep that and lose all the stuff that makes me interested in watching her matches and it's a depressing thought.
i don't even KNOW if the likes of the bellas are capable of doing that, although from what i understand paige definitely is and when she first came up she got a little bit of decent play up there but was quickly put through the 'Diva' sausage machine.
what's stopping them from treating the women's division in WWE like they do in NXT? i mean nobody gives a shit what is going on with the women's matches in WWE. once every few months they get to go for longer than 5 minutes and it's always a better use of time.
i get that the WWE is a sexist, racist and homphobic company but is this really the main reason for it? if there's awareness to make NXT the way it is, are the people behind WWE just completely oblivious?
there's an audience to cater to with good women's matches where right now there is just a break in the show which already has an hour of commercials.
watching sasha banks i always think - she's actually really good at the ring work, but her gimmick is pretty close to a standard Divas gimmick as it is and you just know when she goes up she'll keep that and lose all the stuff that makes me interested in watching her matches and it's a depressing thought.
ItAintEasyBeinCheesy
it's 4th of July in my asshole
Neville looks like a vampire. He wears a mouth guard. Get him one with some fangs painted on it.
serenewarfare
Banned
Pretty much, yeah. Vince has been down on women's wrestling ever since Medusa trashed the title on Nitro. That's why women didn't wrestle regularly on WWE programming for a while after that and were mostly valets. Then the problem was exacerbated by Big Johnny hiring a bunch of models who couldn't work, and on top of that Kevin Dunn is a sexist piece of shit who is in Vince's ear all the time. At this point he goes against what Hunter wants out of spite because he knows as well as everyone else that Hunter and Steph will fire him the moment they get the chance.
NXT is run by progressive thinkers. WWE is run by a 70 year old man and his sexist, racist, homophobic yes-men.
serenewarfare
Banned
Natalya vs. AJ. It was on Main Event in March of last year. Really awesome. As a technical match, it was better than Charlotte/Natalya. Longest women's title match match since about 1987. The crowd completely bought into it by the end. I'll see if I can find a link.
EDIT: Here it is on the Network. Great match.
http://network.wwe.com/video/v31516557
And of course it was on fucking main event.
serenewarfare
Banned
To be fair, Main Event was essentially the B-show at that point because it had just started its live run on the Network.
reptilescorpio
Member
Fuck yes. Easily worth the $10 for the month to see this go down.
To be even more fair, maybe 100k people actually watched that match.
serenewarfare
Banned
Audience count is irrelevant. The fact that it happened at all is what matters.
That's AJ more than other Diva.
Naomi is fairly good from what I've seen. Probably the best of any other female I have watched on the main roster. Paige may have been great on NXT but she is bleh so far. Shitty feud both storyline and match wise with the supposed great performer in AJ. Awesome finisher, though. Emma probably is good too but you'd never know.
Don't forget this:
Week 4:
- Alex Riley def. CJ Parker. Kevin Owens comes out after the match and says he's going to end Alex's in ring career.
I don't see how Owens ending his career will be a heel move though
I don't see how Owens ending his career will be a heel move though
christ that was great, crowd was super hot and lost their shit when Natalya kept setting up for the sharpshooter
serenewarfare
Banned
Yeah, get that shit outta here. AJ has proven on multiple occasions that she is a great performer. Paige is great but isn't given time. Same with Emma. Naomi isn't technically good at all, but she's athletic as hell so she stands out more.
AJ/Paige didn't work for multiple reasons. One was the awful booking and another is that they just don't have chemistry in the ring as much as you'd think. Sometimes that happens. Doesn't mean either woman is bad.
reptilescorpio
Member
FlammableD
Banned
Got home last night to find that my internet was out, so I had to watch NXT on my phone like a FUCKING PEASANT.
Regardless, incredible show. Everything except for the tag match (and the Bull/Corbin match I skipped) was good at worst. Great #1 Contenders match, amazing Women's Title match, and grade A storytelling in the main event. Loved the KO finish. And dat selfie stick.
Regardless, incredible show. Everything except for the tag match (and the Bull/Corbin match I skipped) was good at worst. Great #1 Contenders match, amazing Women's Title match, and grade A storytelling in the main event. Loved the KO finish. And dat selfie stick.
I was totally fine with that, as it suits his "better life for my family" thing. Also because he immediately switched into maniacal laughter.
JesseEwiak
Member
No current woman wrestler on the NXT or WWE roster is "great." Maybe Charlotte, Natalya, Paige, and Becky Lynch are good.
bean breath
Member
serenewarfare
Banned
Not true. I mean, ultimately it's subjective, but I completely disagree.
can you point me to some examples? Not doubting her potential to be great but i can't remember a single match where i said "AJ put on an incredible show"
Promo wise she's the best no doubt.
serenewarfare
Banned
Go watch the Natalya match I linked to earlier. That is the biggest example. Her matches with Kaitlyn were also pretty good. She worked some NXT matches in late 2013 that were really good as well.
ok i just watched the match with Natalya. AJ was good no doubt but alot of that match was about Natalya imo.
I think my biggest problem with AJ is that apart from her submission moves her offense isn't really convincing enough. And that might be because she's really small compared to the rest of the roster which is why they make her do submission moves more often than with other girls.
But it leaves most of the real offensive work throughout the match to the other participant which i thought never reflected well on her.
I still think that Natalya is the best of the bunch right now. I can totally see them giving her the title when Charlotte moves up so they can feud.
I can't stand Paige. Watched her on Main Event this week, and her favourite thing to yell in her annoying screamy voice is "This is my house!" And then pseudo lesbian shit in the ring. Ugh.
The Divas division has virtually zero faces. Just "girls being girls" in the eyes of Vince.
TommyTosser
Member
RHYNO?!
BRAIN KENDRICK?!
Holy shit.
Paige has regressed when she was called up.
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