Cena kicked out of one immediately after an entire Elimination Chamber when Edge cashed in
-
Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.
February Wrasslin' |OT2| Where TNA Careers Never Existed
- Thread starter Sephzilla
- Start date
- Status
Cena kicked out of one immediately after an entire Elimination Chamber when Edge cashed in
Did you listen to Cole's commentary after the match? "Reigns has redeemed himself, proved he is the one to main event WM, etc". If you want to know the intended reaction, the commentary always spells out out how you are "supposed" to react.
Basically they somehow thought this would satisfy everyone that thinks Reigns is rubbish and make them fans.
If one person is allowed to kick out of finishers then I want both people to be allowed to kick out of finishers. Otherwise there should be no kicking out of finishers, period.
Nah, I don't buy that.
If Taker wanted the match it would happen. Taker is Taker after all.
I really feel that they want the biggest matchups for next year since it's on that gigantic stadium. Even if Sting and Undertaker will be even older by then. It's also in Takers hometown so it's a good place to retire.
And WCW had people kick out of the leg drop.
But between Goldberg, Roman, Edge, and even Rhyno the move is protected as fuck.
Vestal
Junior Member
I have no problem with someone kicking out of a finisher as long as the match is BOOKED right and it makes sense.. If the offense had been 50/50 last night I have no problem with it.
However last night, Bryan was the one beating on Reigns for most of the match looking like the better man, set him up for the Knee and he kicks out.
Flip over to the spear, and it was an out of no where spear boom done and done.
I agree with this. It really weakens the one person if his finisher is kicked out of and he can't kick out of his opponent's. Personally, I think kicking it of finishers should be a very, very rare occurence anyway.
blackaroni
Member
Is there anything that would really satisfy anyone though? They're not telling you how you're supposed to react, they're telling you the reason they're having the match.
serenewarfare
Banned
No chance. If Roman is the next guy, then Mania is his "big moment", and there is no way he walks out of Mania looking like a chump.
Also, give this shit a rest. Taker-Sting isn't happening because it doesn't make any sense to do it this year. Who wins that match? Does Sting lose his debut, or does Taker lose two in a row? If Taker is 21-2, then both guys that beat him are less valuable than if it is just one. Next year, that match will make sense. This year, it doesn't. Get the dumb ego argument out.
Kid Kamikaze10
Member
And aim it directly at the eye that needed surgery recently.
WWE has hyped up the idea of Sting vs Taker multiple times in the past and built the two up as huge cornerstones of their respective companies (there's even a Monday Night War episode dedicated purely to those two), Sting has also said he wants to face Taker. Suddenly HHH comes in and starts a WWE vs WCW feud with Sting and proclaims that he is the absolute embodiment of WWE. This has HHH ego masturbation all over it.
Sting vs Taker is the absolute best match to have as a follow up for Undertaker's first Mania loss because of the massive unpredictability of it.
They have used commentary to tell how you're supposed to react for many decades now.
It was 2 out 10 show, the only thing worth seeing are the sting and bray parts.
Ninja Scooter
Member
Do you guys think Id get in trouble at work if I made Val Venis' theme my ringtone?
dream
Member
But then match finishes become a matter of luck, not toughness. And it sets up a weird logic where someone like RKO would be unbeatable because he can hit his finisher before you can hit your finisher.
But in a one-on-one contest, one wrestler SHOULD be weaker than the other wrestler. That's how pro wrestling worked before WWE conditioned their audience to have an "any given night" mentality. That's how you make stars. Hawk no-selling Lawler's piledriver is a good example.
Can't be worse then having Godfather's theme.
D
Deleted member 47027
Unconfirmed Member
Tough shit
That's fair. You're right, one wrestler should be strong and one should be weak. I'm still of the mind that kicking out of someone's finisher should still be very rare and saved for special & important matches.
dream
Member
Two more things:
1) nobody ever gave a shit about Undertaker vs. Sting until idiot fans misread a vignette and worked themselves into believing they want that match.
2) I guarantee you that Yoshiko will get "fired," then Act will campaign to rehire her so that she can get her revenge in a no ropes barbed wire match.
1) nobody ever gave a shit about Undertaker vs. Sting until idiot fans misread a vignette and worked themselves into believing they want that match.
2) I guarantee you that Yoshiko will get "fired," then Act will campaign to rehire her so that she can get her revenge in a no ropes barbed wire match.
L O FUCKING L
dream
Member
Don't you think that Roman Reigns vs. Daniel Bryan was a special and important enough match to do that?
D
Deleted member 47027
Unconfirmed Member
Nobody in their right mind would think Sting vs Taker would be a match worth a shit.
serenewarfare
Banned
I'm not saying the match doesn't make sense. It just doesn't make sense for this year. It would be bad booking. And probably a terrible match. It makes way more sense to do it next year in Dallas as a retirement match for both. Stop with the dumb Triple H hate. I'm all for tearing him down when he deserves it, and this is absolutely not one of those times.
Sibersk Esto
Banned
I would argue that the stakes were high enough.
How far back do you have to go to find a 1 v 1 Divas match on a Mania card?
I dunno. It was important in that it was a chance at a WrestleMania main event, but something like that should be saved for the WM main event itself, IMO.
It would be worth more in the sense of these two important characters from the two rival companies meeting. Of course it would not be a better match.
blackaroni
Member
I really have no interest in Sting or Undertaker being at this year's Mania. I really don't.
lovely ladies
Member
I'm just imagining Sting showing up in his TNA bandleader outfit and Undertaker taking a 25 min stroll to the ring wearing his super shredder outfit... maybe the direction they took for this year is better.
Nobody is their right mind would want a Sting vs Anyone match. His last matches on TNA were really bad. He is simply to old.
D
Deleted member 47027
Unconfirmed Member
WrassleGAF Fastlane poll is up, results will be posted later today. Vote now!
http://goo.gl/forms/K7E8PkkG2k
http://goo.gl/forms/K7E8PkkG2k
I seriously hope Sting's hip is ready for Trips spine buster 
. Dude going to be ultra safe to put over the Stinger.
I seriously can't believe this match is really happening and on what grounds and purpose?
Sting hitting Trips at SS because???
Sting pointing at Trips why?
Trips wanting to wrestle Stinger on different grounds other than the punch?
Monday Night War bullshit in 2015 is a good storyline?
WCW mentioning but fuck that dead company right?
this is why I went heel and just read the reactions. If it wasn't for my wife wanting desperately to see the last two matches...I would have continued to try to understand what Togi was saying during that hour long special on NJPWorld.
. Dude going to be ultra safe to put over the Stinger. I seriously can't believe this match is really happening and on what grounds and purpose?
Sting hitting Trips at SS because???
Sting pointing at Trips why?
Trips wanting to wrestle Stinger on different grounds other than the punch?
Monday Night War bullshit in 2015 is a good storyline?
WCW mentioning but fuck that dead company right?
this is why I went heel and just read the reactions. If it wasn't for my wife wanting desperately to see the last two matches...I would have continued to try to understand what Togi was saying during that hour long special on NJPWorld.
Better than Taker vs Husky Harris
No? When's the last time HHH won a match?
Khrysler Jerikho
Member
Fastlane felt like a glorified Raw.
And man, Co--Stardust, I mean.
And man, Co--Stardust, I mean.
Yeah, I think I rather watch Brock vs Reigns than those two doing whatever.
D
Deleted member 47027
Unconfirmed Member
So what you're saying is Sting in his current form is better than Bray Wyatt? I don't agree with that at all.
Especially at Mania. i think he's lost something like his past 5 appearances at Mania.
My first comment of it that you quoted was literally my first negative comment I've made about HHH at all during the Sting feud. Did I accidentally trigger a Hiatch fan?
For the record, I don't think HHH vs Sting will be any better than what Taker vs Sting would be mostly because HHH wouldn't be able to use the same arsenal of moves he used against Bryan last year because Sting is easily more fragile than Taker. I actually think Taker's offense compliments what Sting can take and dish out more than HHH. And from a storyline and general "awesome hype moment" perspective, I feel like the cool Sting stuff they've done has been wasted on HHH. All of the cool multiple-Stings and HHH having face paint stuff would work better in a Taker feud because Taker could then turn around and try to one-up it.
Does anyone really care? I kinda don't give a shit what the result of that match is going to be. It's kinda just there. Also thought the thing on Fastlane was so lame. In the past that would have been a segment on RAW.
Sibersk Esto
Banned
I do appreciate them keeping crow sting and not surfer sting
i'm not trying to push that "lol HHH buries people XDDDD" thing, i'm a HHH mark
i'm talking about Vince's WCW burial. It just so happens to be HHH facing Sting
D
Deleted member 47027
Unconfirmed Member
I honestly don't believe they do. They're supposed to call it as they see it with guidance from the back on what to spend more time on and enhance and put over.
- Status