I think if they didn't know the finishes and called matches on the fly Cole would probably become confused and trip over himself.
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I think if they didn't know the finishes and called matches on the fly Cole would probably become confused and trip over himself.
This made me think of something I find irritating, and it's really nothing, but whatever. I hate when there's, like, a four-way match for a belt, right? And the commentators are like "the champion only has a 25% chance of winning!" Uhhh... Why? Because all of these guys are exactly the same and everyone has the same chance of winning? What? Why am I watching this then? I dunno. It just cheapens everything and everyone -- namely the champion -- ends up looking like a bum.
I just hate the commentary in WWE. Almost as much as I hate the shaky zoom cam.
dream
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Don't forget the promo, where Stinger kills the entire gimmick by telling everyone that "the Stinger is going to take care of that big, stinky, nasty Undertaker because it's showtime folks! WOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!"
Sibersk Esto
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Do you REALLY want to hear the current commentary team improvise that much?
I dunno a balding surfer sting would be interesting to watch for old times sake.
blackaroni
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Can you imagine how terrible Sting would look without the face paint?
The Elite
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Good points.
Maybe with a better commentary team.
Interesting. I have always just assumed they knew.
A task they fail regularly.
Joe Shlabotnik
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They gave the WCW belt to Flair, right? That was cool and all but it would have made for a good angle with Sting.
You mean Mean Mark Calaway vs Wacky Windham Rotunda.
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Do they? You just mentioned how Cole was crafting the narrative he was told to make - sounds like they're doing it successfully. Whether or not your jaded WWE hating heart wants to believe it though...
He beat Lesnar at 29 which is actually the last match I remember him winning.
Sibersk Esto
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I'm not ashamed to say I liked pre return jbl on commentary for smackdown, when he told wrestling stories and put over guys like regal and Taylor
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Shit, that was at 29? For some reason I thought he did that at Summerslam, but that was something else.
Well hell besides that one! I think his Mania record is pretty heavy in the L section as of late.
Joe Shlabotnik
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I suspect the commentary would be fine or much improved if left to their own devices. They were really good on the studio Raw!
BoboBrazil
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Lol Dave Meltzer ripped into WWE into today's Observer live. This shit is hilarious.
British Monsoon
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I didn't think it was possible, but I've finally found a reputable indie that runs in a dingier shithole than AIW do;
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Some people have no taste. Count me among the Surfer Sting Is The Best Sting household.
serenewarfare
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Did you miss the part where I said I'm all for hating on Triple H when he deserves it? I've openly criticized Hunter for a lot of dumb shit he's done in the past, but this is not one of those scenarios. Being mad because Triple H is proclaiming that he is the "heartbeat of WWE" is what's supposed to happen. He's a heel. He says ridiculous and unbelievable stuff. And if you honestly think Triple H and Sting won't have a better match than Taker and Sting would, then you are deluding yourself. Of all the Mania matches to complain about, this is not one of them.
That's not exclusive to the WWE. There are a lot of people that say "every team has a 50 per cent chance of winning the match".
A lot of people just don't know how probability works.
Sibersk Esto
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Jerry Lawler ruined heel commentary forever.
I'd be a lying little smark if I pretended to have cared for Sting in WCW.
He was the guy with the face paint who stole Bret Hart's move and then he became the guy with the face paint who showed up with a baseball bat for some reason. Later he became the guy with the face paint in TNA. I can't recall a single match of Sting's I remember watching in the past 15 years, though I'm sure I watched some.
I've never felt strongly enough about Sting to have an opinion about Sting.
Not likely to start now.
He was the guy with the face paint who stole Bret Hart's move and then he became the guy with the face paint who showed up with a baseball bat for some reason. Later he became the guy with the face paint in TNA. I can't recall a single match of Sting's I remember watching in the past 15 years, though I'm sure I watched some.
I've never felt strongly enough about Sting to have an opinion about Sting.
Not likely to start now.
I didn't think it was possible, but I've finally found a reputable indie that runs in a dingier shithole than AIW do;
Looks like a dlc arena for the WWF In Your House game.
The Elite
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I didn't think it was possible, but I've finally found a reputable indie that runs in a dingier shithole than AIW do;
I would want to use that chandelier in a match.
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I didn't think it was possible, but I've finally found a reputable indie that runs in a dingier shithole than AIW do;
Wow, that's literally a cafeteria.
What did he say?
Nocturnowl
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Guys, I want to let you know that I greatly enjoyed Ziggles getting the Kane and Show combo, might've been the best part of the PPV.
I didn't have high hopes for that Fastlane (well who did?) but man I've got to admit, I did at least have expectations for the Dust Duo and IC title match, they just didn't come together and both ended like they were booked for an episode of Smackdown. I'd honestly go for WM rematches without the shitty endings and better build but I think they'd have a hard time getting on the card with all those video packages and comedy segments that use the extra hour.
I didn't have high hopes for that Fastlane (well who did?) but man I've got to admit, I did at least have expectations for the Dust Duo and IC title match, they just didn't come together and both ended like they were booked for an episode of Smackdown. I'd honestly go for WM rematches without the shitty endings and better build but I think they'd have a hard time getting on the card with all those video packages and comedy segments that use the extra hour.
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"I just...I don't know. I don't know what they're doing. Maybe they're trying to...I mean if that's the direction they're going, but...I don't know."
lovely ladies
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I thought the commentary was fine last night for the most part, can't say I was paying attention to it 100% all the time but I don't recall anything very painful.
Wait, I think King might have said something lame but that's par for the course.
This is EXACTLY what he would say, lol.
So you mean to tell me that his matches with Rude, Vader, and even Flair didn't get passed the conception of "the guy with the facepaint".
Sure the scorpion deathlock is a poor man's sharpshooter but he still had some five star matches.
BoboBrazil
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I'm still listening, but so far he called Vince McMahon someone staring at the sun and can't see it shining and Vince being last to the curve and not even in the game with dumbshits. I haven't heard him tear into WWE like this in a long time.
British Monsoon
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Surfer Sting is objectively the best Sting, as far as I'm concerned. Better matches, better promos and the best of the 'superman' wrestlers of that era. Also, best theme;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MHQ69yLVGI
Spot on Melty impression, I love it Maggle.
The announcers today are too neutral to me. JBL will sometimes stick up for the heel, but also tends to praise the face too.
As a three-man team I think that Cole should be the neutral party, JBL the heel side and Booker the face side. That would make it so much more interesting.
I loved it when Jesse Ventura praised all the heels no matter what they did, same with Bobby Heenan.
As a three-man team I think that Cole should be the neutral party, JBL the heel side and Booker the face side. That would make it so much more interesting.
I loved it when Jesse Ventura praised all the heels no matter what they did, same with Bobby Heenan.
serenewarfare
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Basically that Vince is making a mistake and everyone around him knows he is making a mistake but he is so goddamn determined to make that mistake that we might as well enjoy watching him make a bad decision.
*Shrug* I really don't think HHH vs Sting is going to be a good match, or at least anything better than what Taker vs Sting could deliver in its place.
Terrabyte20xx
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So same time, same place, same mistake next year then.
I was 7 in 1993 and I didn't watch WCW until Nitro. I didn't care about Crow Sting, I just knew he existed and would pop up on TV from time to time and interact with nWo. I've never actively wanted a Sting v. Taker match because I never cared about Sting.
My only fond memory of Sting is having a Sting action figure I found at a garage sale with my grandfather when I was a little kid, and learning who it was after getting it.
I'm not saying Sting was bad. I'm saying he never mattered to me. At this point, his relevancy is "he never went to WWE".
I never liked the spear from Edge. It didn't look right and he is too lean for that move to have a serious impact IMO.
Sibersk Esto
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See but Ventura and Heenan justified why. Lawler on commentary did the whole "warping reality to suit the heels" thing and it just got super annoying. That and heel Lawler was a psychopathic sadist
British Monsoon
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Damn, Tharpe-des isn't going to be best pleased;
Looks good on Shinsuke, but then again, what doesn't?
Looks good on Shinsuke, but then again, what doesn't?
If everyone knows its a mistake then they collectively need to find their nuts and tell Vince it's a mistake. Right now they're as much a part of the problem as Vince.
this...
The thing about heel announcers back in the day was the fact that they had logic out of the ass. It used to be funny when Gorilla would overly praised the faces despite them being dickish in the matches and Jesse would expose the fact that the faces were cheating, yet Gorilla would say some shit like "would you stop that!".
I miss that. A perfect exchange and good storytelling compared to shilling and making the wrestlers look like C plus students trying to get recognition.
I have very fond memories of him in WcW. I would have listed him as my #2.
I didn't give two shits about his TNA run though. I don't believe I watched more than 15 minutes of it.
I can't say I cared about Undertaker growing up. I was team WcW during the attitude era and disliked his American Badass gimmick. I definitly have respect for him these days and looking back though.
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While I want sting vs taker it makes more sense to have next year since thye got to fill 100000 seats
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