KZXcellent
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Yeah we a decent amount of info/push from XV after the Uncovered event and now it seems like we have a constant stream of scans, videos, info on the game and the prequel film will be available digitally at the end of the month.
FFXV: What's The General temperature of this Game?
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Yeah we a decent amount of info/push from XV after the Uncovered event and now it seems like we have a constant stream of scans, videos, info on the game and the prequel film will be available digitally at the end of the month.
The only one where you really have to change it up imo is X.
I expect the story and characters to be crap. I don't think the combat system will work out that well.
That said, it'll probably be a fairly average rpg. The amount of money poured into this game ensures at least some degree of quality (I hope) in terms of content.
I said this early last year to some of my friends: in scenery and exploration, Xenoblade will be better; in action combat systems, Tales and Star Ocean will be better; in story and characters, Persona 5 will be better. It's somewhat sad that all the disparate parts are now divided into different series, not necessarily in one package like it used to be in mainline Final Fantasy games, but that's the reality. I'm hard pressed to think of what could be "the best" in FF15 other than just graphics.
That said, it'll probably be a fairly average rpg. The amount of money poured into this game ensures at least some degree of quality (I hope) in terms of content.
I said this early last year to some of my friends: in scenery and exploration, Xenoblade will be better; in action combat systems, Tales and Star Ocean will be better; in story and characters, Persona 5 will be better. It's somewhat sad that all the disparate parts are now divided into different series, not necessarily in one package like it used to be in mainline Final Fantasy games, but that's the reality. I'm hard pressed to think of what could be "the best" in FF15 other than just graphics.
brandonh83
Banned
Also not representative of the final game
But yeah I mean they shouldn't have released that. It's not good.
Anyone who bets under 80 is an absolute loon.
That was always the case. Final Fantasy games were never the shining examples in any one category (except maybe graphics I guess), they were notable for being good across the board and occasionally great in a few of them.
None of what they're putting out is stuff that will reach a general/casual audience.
Most people don't:
-Wake up at ridiculous hours to watch JP dev livestreams
-Bother to find the archive afterward
-Look at JP magazine scans
-Follow the games Twitter accounts
-Plan to drive out to probably a whole other county to see their CG movie that's playing at like a literal dozen theaters.
Perhaps it's more accurate to say: There's marketing for the game, there's just very little awareness outside of the enthusiast space.
Edit: I forgot to mention Brotherhood. Nobody's watching that. Wholly unremarkable YT numbers compared to trailer for the game.
The road trip aspect is easily the best thing going for it apart from maybe the OST.
artsi
Member
Nah, XIII did great, it sold over 1 million the launch day (in Japan).
According to Famitsu data, from 2006 to 2013 XIII had sold in Japan about as much as the entire Persona series, including spin-offs and re-releases.
But let's hope Persona 5 will take the series to next level. At least they are marketing it hard.
Crossing Eden
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None of the dialogue in this game sounds liKe it was written by a person who has ever had a conversation in their life and the acting of both dubs and the general pacing of the cutscenes have been god awful, with each line of dialogue making it painstakingly obvious that the actors were never in the same room. Genuinely good acting can at least make offputting characterization and poor dialogue tolerable. But that's nowhere to be found here.
chozen
Member
We WILL see XV commercials on TV on release month, XV Banners on buses as well.
There were XIII banners on NYC buses when my buddies and I were driving around back in the day.
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
I don't think the demos so far suggest the game will hold up to FF13's lofty standard.
I wouldn't be so sure, I know some people like to hate FF13, but 13 wasn't exactly a bad game, especially after those first 20 hours, it was a bad FF true, but not a bad game.
OTOH FF15 can turn to be a bad game, at least from what we've seen of gameplay so far.
What is this in reference to? There has been a ton of pessimism around this game. Same with TLG - people act like it will never live up to the hype that has built up over 10 years, but hype has not been building for 10 years. It's been lowering if anything.
I think both FFXV and TLG will be pleasant surprises.
InsaneTiger
Member
Even if you paid attention to every bit of information, couldn't you still be down on the game? I played the demos enough to give me a bad taste. I am hoping reviews and reactions will help change my mind.
dragonzdogma
Member
Final Fantasy XV is not a modern open world game
in terms of both graphics and Technology, It's trying really hard to catch up to GTAV V ( a game that came out years ago on the PS3)
Final Fantasy XV combat is not in par with any platinum game or Ninja gaiden, dragons dogma, or Devil may cry.
Final Fantasy XV is well, Final Fantasy XV if by now the aesthetics and teased story have not hooked in, than there's really nothing more to see.
^ That's what I keep telling myself, to keep my hype in check of course,
but whenever I see Titan and summons and the enemy design and flashy effects everything I just said goes out the window.
Never, and I mean never have I seen a cast so awesome,
I absolutely love Nocits and crew, the aesthetics of the game are everything I've ever wanted in a game, and the music resonates with every single cell of my body.
Day zero- (insert chevy chase Xmas NLV movie quote) and close the thread for all I care.
in terms of both graphics and Technology, It's trying really hard to catch up to GTAV V ( a game that came out years ago on the PS3)
Final Fantasy XV combat is not in par with any platinum game or Ninja gaiden, dragons dogma, or Devil may cry.
Final Fantasy XV is well, Final Fantasy XV if by now the aesthetics and teased story have not hooked in, than there's really nothing more to see.
^ That's what I keep telling myself, to keep my hype in check of course,
but whenever I see Titan and summons and the enemy design and flashy effects everything I just said goes out the window.
Never, and I mean never have I seen a cast so awesome,
I absolutely love Nocits and crew, the aesthetics of the game are everything I've ever wanted in a game, and the music resonates with every single cell of my body.
Day zero- (insert chevy chase Xmas NLV movie quote) and close the thread for all I care.
HerroRygar
Member
Oh shit, Xenoblade Chronicles X got an 84? No way this game will be worse than that. XCX was not a bad game by any means, but it was one of that was good in spite of some clear flaws, which is what I'm thinking FFXV will be like.
I'm saying 84 minimum, landing somewhere around 88.
momshotdad
Member
More excited than I should be. I'm planning to pick it up right at launch after I hear Gaf's opinions on it.
I'm not a big FF fan, I can't stand 13 and I don't think I've finished any of them. If Episode Duscae was released as a full game I'd give it 9/10, I absolutely loved it and where they were going with it, and that's assuming no combat changes since 2.0.
The idea of a JRPG bro boy-band road trip sounds like the actual worst idea for a compelling game. I just can't imagine a scenario where the writing isn't complete trash, even by JRPG standards.
chozen
Member
Looks better than The Witcher 3 from literally everything in the gameplay department. Maybe other than Gwent.
Professor Oak
Neo Member
Being better than Falllout 4 and having better combat than The Witcher 3 is going to be highly debatable.
But I agree with you that Square is busting their asses right now, I would not want to be the devs with their crazy work hours right now.
I'm personally more excited for this game than I have been for any game in years. I find it funny that people here are mostly against the new battle system when the old atb battle system for the most part isn't what makes FF games fun. What really matters (at least to me) is the character progression (sphere grid/Materia system). This is what gives the player the freedom to go about battles in different ways. This along with a compelling/fun story is what I'm most interested in.
My prediction is that this game will score around an 8.2 meta. Even with the day one patch (some reviews will come before) players will experience bugs on release. And reviewers will have mixed options on the story.
semiconscious
Member
...It's just frustrating at this point. I havent waited for this for a decade to be flooded with strawman arguments about why the game is gonna fail or be terrible.
It's just another thing to that people say so they can be a part of the conversation, because they don't actually have anything substantial to say about the game itself.
This is a bad excuse, make a the game good though out, why should I ever consider it good, if it boring crap for 1/3 of it?
Here's hoping! I mean, it's mid-August. They can start any time now!
Sure. I mean, there was a point when the streams were way too often. They had nothing to say and very little to show, and that was never particularly impressive, it just convinced people they had an actual game on their hands and not just a prototype or a CG trailer.
I don't think it's debatable that the combat in Witcher 3 is passable to bad. That being said yea it's possible the FFXV combat sucks too, I don't think it will though just because the combat possibilities in the Platinum Demo are great once you get them down.
brandonh83
Banned
I enjoyed the Duscae demo. The game hasn't presented itself very well at shows. Then they released a terrible demo that was a huge step back from the Duscae demo, and they're foolishly using that as the premiere demo to download from PSN/XBL, which I imagine is turning a lot of people away.
It's hard to say, I think. I have high hopes and I like the look of it, but they really need to release an updated demo closer to the retail build and soon.
Are you talking about TV ads or something? Every GameStop in the country has posters and television ads for the game. They have had many, many Active Time Twitch streams. They had a big ass Uncovered event. Etc. E3. Gamescom upcoming.
Plenty of Marketing thus far. They won't do cable ads until September I bet.
Suzushiiro
Banned
My guess is that it'll be, at worst, the Force Awakens to XIII's prequel trilogy- which is to say, while it may not be considered the best or even one of the best in the series by most people, it'll be good enough to make people believe that the series is capable of being good again.
Plus gameinformer magazine thing.
Hibiki Kurosawa
Member
Oh it's definitely an
that will forever be remembered as
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I dunno game
I dunno
Better than the Witcher 3 vs Skyrim topic we have right now
NoctisVsStar
Member
I'll first play it, granted not everyone is able to take a leap of faith day one. Hype or negative waves don't influence my purchases. For instance, some outsiders from the NMS community is currently going thru that got carried away by the hype.
I'll be the first one to say if it's shit right away.
Hibiki Kurosawa
Member
I could see that, but not falling quite as flat on their faces as Capcom did with RE6.
NoctisVsStar
Member
Capcom wishes to be SE at this particular moment in time. It's insane how much they fell off.
The story and characters were garbage, lore was hidden in text instead of being presented in game and overall the whole structure of the game was terrible. Unlike FFX there was no world building. You just got thrown from place to place without any world map or indication where you are or what that place is. It's there for you to just run through corridors which where just boring to look at. There was no progression, no journey and no interaction with the NPCs made you not care about the world you're supposed to be saving. It's like the least interactive world in a RPG ever.
People praise the combat but I feel like it was mediocre at best, there was no way to control the AI of party members, the battle system was far too automatic also what's the point of having an ATB-esque battle system where you can't control other party members, there nothing but automatic bots. FF XII and XV is doing this much better.
The leveling system was nothing special and the weapon upgrade system is the worst upgrade system known to man which was probably created like that because they didn't know what to do with all the item drops.
Overall FFXIII is just poorly conceived video game for a game design perspective. It's a game which was supposed to be carried through characters, story and the world but it fails in all three aspects. Oh the graphics and music where both good but that's about it.
Randomizer
Member
I am buying it day one for sure but I am not even that interested in it lol. Certain franchises have me day one due to the pedigree of the developers and previous games. Games and developers such as Zelda, Mario, Metroid, Resident Evil, Final Fantasy, Nintendo EPD, Kojima, Kamiya, Naughty Dog etc.
No one forced SE to make an open-world RPG. The comparison will be made in the audience at large, regardless of some annoying GAF threads. And not even just to RPGs. If people don't find the general gameplay loop of FFXV as compelling as an AC or GTA, that's not great for SE.
It's already unfortunate Mafia III comes out the very next week. SE will be trying to sell non-fans on the game while a known quantity is being advertised at them in the same time frame. Mafia III looks like a good game, too.
Oh, that's a great analogy!
The Witcher 3 vs Skyrim vs FF15
When Persona 5 comes out, throw that in too, even if there's nothing to compare lol