NoctisVsStar
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I need closure too Westbrook.
FFXV: What's The General temperature of this Game?
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I need closure too Westbrook.
Psychological Intellect
Banned
70-75 metacritic would be the most logical and reasonable prediction.
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
Comparing the combat to character action games fundamentally misunderstands what it is.
It's an RPG mediated through autobattle, not an action game.
afternoon delight
Member
IMHO it looks to continue my complete uncaring state since loathing 10-onward FFs.
Stiler
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It seems so strange that there's like little to no marketing for the game so close. I mean we have literally like seven weeks left to go and I'm not seeing any ads online/in stores/on tv for it, and this is final bloody fantasy we're talking about, one of the few "huge" jrpg franchises that are known still in the west.
I think the world design and attention to detail looks amazing, my main concern is the combat. From playing the demo the combat was (as far as melee goes) EXTREMELY dull and bare-bones, literally doing one combo over and over for most of the demo.
I just wish they'd have took inspiration from say, Dragon's Dogma or something, THAT's how to do real-time "action-rpg" style combat and make it fun/exciting.
I hope the full game the combat isn't as boring/dull as the demo's, that's my main concern about the game.
If they got it worked out better I think it'll easily hit 90+ scores on average.
I think the world design and attention to detail looks amazing, my main concern is the combat. From playing the demo the combat was (as far as melee goes) EXTREMELY dull and bare-bones, literally doing one combo over and over for most of the demo.
I just wish they'd have took inspiration from say, Dragon's Dogma or something, THAT's how to do real-time "action-rpg" style combat and make it fun/exciting.
I hope the full game the combat isn't as boring/dull as the demo's, that's my main concern about the game.
If they got it worked out better I think it'll easily hit 90+ scores on average.
I'd say it's a rather muddy, confused midpoint. They should've went all the way in one direction or the other.
dragonzdogma
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Dragons dogma is an RPG XD
IMO FFXV is a character action game, after all you can only play with a single character named Noctis.
This game got crazy marketing through. What other game had an event like the Uncovered one? What other game has a full length CG movie before release? Game is being shown in numerous places around the world. Commercials will come in September they have whole month for that.
All I want is a good story and good characters.
After the dire writing of the entire FFXIII saga, that's all I really want. A good story.
Good gameplay too, but... just don't let the story nosedive like FFXIII's did. FFXIV proves there's still great writing talent at Square Enix.
After the dire writing of the entire FFXIII saga, that's all I really want. A good story.
Good gameplay too, but... just don't let the story nosedive like FFXIII's did. FFXIV proves there's still great writing talent at Square Enix.
InsaneTiger
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My feelings exactly.
Paradox me
Member
It's really not that different from any other RPG about a group that's on some sort of journey. You're going from one place to another and their primary mode of transportation just happens to be a car instead of a ship or on foot. The only thing that's different is that they're fleshing out mechanics that have always been there. Tents and cottages to heal become camping, and there are still inns/hotels. Mini-games like you'd find at Gold Saucer is now an arcade machines at a gas station. It's all stuff that you would normally do in a Final Fantasy game, or things that you just kind of assumed the characters did throughout the story.
As far as the 'boy band' thing goes, that's something that people have come up with entirely on their own based solely on how the characters look. In reality, it's a group of friends doing what friends do when they're together. If anything, the emphasis they're placing on these characters' relationships means there's more potential for a decent story than the vast majority of JRPGs out there.
we can compare the music!!
you know i didn't even think about comparing it to open world games like GTA and AC, but yea comparison will be made no matter how good or bad the game is. YEA Mafia looks good!!
Ghost_Protocol
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Based on everything I've seen lately, I'm not very excited. Any interest I had in the story has been killed by the disgust I feel for the main characters. They all seem to be cookie cutter shounen character types, and I just dont have the patience to deal with those types of personalities anymore.
Also, the battle system seems to be very button mashy, with an emphasis on style over substance, and you only get to control the main character for the entire game?? Why?
The world also looks pretty dead and unintetesting.
Really disappointed it turned out this way, since I used to be a pretty big fan of the series.
Also, the battle system seems to be very button mashy, with an emphasis on style over substance, and you only get to control the main character for the entire game?? Why?
The world also looks pretty dead and unintetesting.
Really disappointed it turned out this way, since I used to be a pretty big fan of the series.
notworksafe
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The stage demo at E3 combined with the boring demos officially killed all interest I had in the game. Went from "must buy" to "maybe a buy on deep discount, maybe".
Randomizer
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You should play XII if you haven't. The story and characters are mostly trash but the gameplay, art and music is great.
OP aparently hype games now-a-day are doomed from start. The new gems are those games that nobody knew about years ahead. So, I dunno. "Journalist" and "critics" have become a little what can I say... cynic? So every AAA game is taken like a second coming of Jesus and with the first error or flop, they buried it in shade. Look at Driveclub, this game need a re-review, but nobody gives a fuck because reviews are now click baits and nothing more. So, do your un research, avoid hate threads in GAF and everything is going to be OK.
Side note: I feel sorry for The Last Guardian, KHIII, FF XV they are going to be annihilated because they are hyped AF. Look at NMS ffs.
P.S: So why anybody have taken NoctisVsStar bets?
Side note: I feel sorry for The Last Guardian, KHIII, FF XV they are going to be annihilated because they are hyped AF. Look at NMS ffs.
P.S: So why anybody have taken NoctisVsStar bets?
artsi
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They also decided to give away a luxury car as a pre-order prize to some lucky chap. Which is still a small drop in their overall marketing budget.
All the TV ads, etc. will come in September but there's been plenty of marketing via other channels so far.
right now i'm just really worried the game is low on main contents
i can get over a lot of faults
but a repeat of FFXIII-2 is franchise killing for me
if XV is anything like it
it will be the best FF in a decade
i can get over a lot of faults
but a repeat of FFXIII-2 is franchise killing for me
dragon's dogma is an arpg though
if XV is anything like it
it will be the best FF in a decade
letmetrythisname
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The Last Guardian is probably going to be massively acclaimed solely for being by Team Ico. Nothing to worry about there.
Who knows at this point? The marketing has been good and terra bad at the same time. The only thing left to do is wait and find out. I'm trying to go in with low expectations since what i've seen so far hasn't been very impressive (at least on console).
The director of the game thinks it's okay to have an empty world. Red flag right off the bat.
The director of the game thinks it's okay to have an empty world. Red flag right off the bat.
NoctisVsStar
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Stumpo only replied with witty response so I'll take that as a no
deep down he knows it won't get a 72
Good Guy Gone Bad
Member
I was excited after Episode Duscae and 2.0, not so excited after the Platinum demo and the E3 stage demo. I'm cautiously optimistic the game will be good, but I still have the LE Pre ordered since I am a fool and enjoy spending money frivolously, but I'm sure there will be a decently playable game with an interesting enough story somewhere in there... SE's got too much riding on this in order for the game to fall apart.
Kerotan Frog
Member
Hype as fuck! Been waiting a decade for this game. So close I can taste it.
orthodoxy1095
Banned
Still lukewarm at best. But I'm also a sucker who has one of those special editions on order because after all the years of waiting, trailers, concept art, dev interviews, demos, writing a demo OT and late night streams I have to see this thing through and get closure.
I'm not seeing the comparison.
TLG continues to look like a Team Ico game and KHIII looks great every (rare) time they show it.
I'm not seeing the comparison.
artsi
Member
Yeah, Platinum Demo was a sloppy thing that was made by a few guys, IMO they shouldn't have released it.
If they did Duscae 3.0 with magic and other improvements they've done during the last year, and released it to everyone I think it would've been better. At least it somewhat presents how the final game will play like, unlike an unpolished tech demo.
I think expectations are in check for TLG. For KH, I think the fear is not being able to get into the story at all after skipping out on so many additional games.
umop_3pisdn
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I think after XIII they have to do a lot to show that they've got the message on why that was a disaster, and I'm not convinced that they've done that.
It could be a good game, but I'm really only expecting a marginal improvement, like two steps forward one step back. So lukewarm, basically.
It could be a good game, but I'm really only expecting a marginal improvement, like two steps forward one step back. So lukewarm, basically.
NoctisVsStar
Member
Of course not, funny how type-0 was constantly praised and begged for a west release but after all those years of waiting for a handheld game it soured people. I'm pretty sure if the game just had a vita release instead of a console one it would've been better received.
I'm really concerned about the story of the game and how they are going to pad out the world. Unless the story is as straight forward as they have made it seem (which honestly would be pretty boring) we don't know much about the story at all. We still haven't seen some of the characters in game (Gentiana, Verestal, even Idoleas) so if they are important they have done a good job of making them seem like they aren't.
orthodoxy1095
Banned
I guess that's a probable issue with the game.
I dunno, for all the talk about the games being confusing I've never really had a problem just ignoring some of the kookier story bits. We'll see how they manage a story in this one though.
Again, with this? I'm a fan of these tittles man, but people just want to see the world burn. For me FF XV looks fantastic, The Last Guardian bring tears to my eyes, KHIII is ok. But people don't think like you or me, so they said: Last Guardian looks boring and ugly, KHIII is a mess because the series is a mess, FF XV looks like a boy band fan dream, etc.
foreshadowing incoming in 3,2,1...
For me, for you, sure. But I'm salty with critics, they are now pseudo-celebrities trying to hard to be cool.
mind if I quote you in October you can prove me wrong, I don't mind... I wish am wrong about critics and AAA games.
For me, it jumped the gun with time travel in KH3D with the huge info dump at the end. I hadn't followed the series for a while after that, and all of a sudden in KH Back Cover there are these people with animal masks as the central characters.
It's gotten more zany with time, so I don't see it getting any better in that regard.
EDIT: Nomura is also working on the assumption that people are fully caught up. Uh, nope. Even after all the remasters.
Nearly everything that I have seen so far of the game has turned me off.
The demo was terrible, the trailers are largely uninteresting, majority of the character designs are bad, the combat is weak, judging from the trailers the writing will be an embarrassment.
For a so called AAA game it just looks like amateur hour. It feels like yet another game where a JP dev comes up short. The only reason why I am likely going to get the game anyway is because I want to play a AAA JRPG. But looking at this game as it is, i'm not even sure it's trying to be one.
The demo was terrible, the trailers are largely uninteresting, majority of the character designs are bad, the combat is weak, judging from the trailers the writing will be an embarrassment.
For a so called AAA game it just looks like amateur hour. It feels like yet another game where a JP dev comes up short. The only reason why I am likely going to get the game anyway is because I want to play a AAA JRPG. But looking at this game as it is, i'm not even sure it's trying to be one.
afternoon delight
Member
I didn't care for it the first time around but I didn't finish it either, was content to watch a friend play it and then walk away. I'm mildly interested in this "International Zodiac System" version or whatever but I usually play long JRPGs for their fun stories and characters, the world, histories, etc.... :/
And optimal item management!
I basically retreated to older-styled CRPGs, of which there are an abundance on PC.
dragonzdogma
Member
Amen brother.
In all seriousness, Dragons dogma was the very first game that did exactly what I had dreamed about
all along, that is- to combine a "devil may cry combat" with an open world like that of Grand theft auto.
(BTW: I would love a dragons dogma sequel with a futuristic setting or something similar to Final fantasy 7)
DD was a game that exceeded my expectations.
The very reason I'm hyped for FFXV, is because in a way is the futuristic dragons dogma I've been waiting for.
I've seen Tabata saying how he looks at the witcher 3 or RDR even skyrim for inspiration when he should be looking at dragons dogma.
ArkhamFantasy
Member
Framerate was 30 FPS with almost no drops at E3 on both platforms. Performance wont be an issue, They sacrificed IQ for consistent frame rate.
James Scott
Banned
It's going for an action game combat system but it feel automated
Type 0 is an awful game and the worst game I've played all gen. Charging $60 and holding the XV demo hostage is probably more why it's upsetting rather than it not being a vita release
orthodoxy1095
Banned
No they don't. There's no proof of this, especially among the gaming press which is still an "enthusiast press" at best. At most, games are slowly being held to a higher standard, which is a thing to be happy about, not lament over.
Because he knows it's impossible to completely and evenly fill a world as huge as they need it to be for it to make sense for a long road-trip - imagine you could drive through the whole world in <10 minutes - unless you'd do the super generic Ubisoft approach times ten with pure filler and collectables. That doesn't mean the game is not filled with tons of content around the points of interests like cities, towns, settlements, gas stations, ranches etc. It just has a lot of negative space inbetween those locations that isn't even meant to be explored every inch of.
dragonzdogma
Member
When devs talk about IQ (image quality) what exactly are they talking about?
Dynamic resolution was the sacrifice, meaning the game will switch to ugly 900p instead of 1080p or we are talking about less polys in the background ?