Ceadeus
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FFXV: What's The General temperature of this Game?
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ArkhamFantasy
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The game is not full 1080p and it has significant aliasing. Thats why people are begging for a Neo version. FFXV in full 1080p with a good AA solution would be one of the best looking games of the generation.
orthodoxy1095
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It's like the Nintendo problem. You have to get some kind of mindshare outside of the dedicated fanbase, especially with a game like this that is clearly making overtures to a Western audience.
Psycho_Mantis
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Here's the rundown:
OST - GOAT
Graphics - Amazing
Story - Very interested in the vibes Nomura's direction gave, still interested in the changed version.
Characters - Moment of silence for Stella.....cast seem very likeable
Gameplay (non battle) - looks wonderful
Battle gameplay - not confident but at times looks spectacular
OST - GOAT
Graphics - Amazing
Story - Very interested in the vibes Nomura's direction gave, still interested in the changed version.
Characters - Moment of silence for Stella.....cast seem very likeable
Gameplay (non battle) - looks wonderful
Battle gameplay - not confident but at times looks spectacular
Umm what ?
A freaking CG movie came out in Japan and is soon to come out in North america.
They are massively over spending on marketing in typical AAA fashion.
They are arguably squandering resources as well.Took a big risk with that movie.It could be at the expense of the the actual game too.
Nah considering which part of Sony is distributing it, I doubt it.
Exactly. The argument is being misphrased and misunderstood in turn. It's not that there isn't marketing, it's that's for as much of it as there is, it's not actually all that effective/conducive to reaching the goal they've set.
Lol, the FFXIII triology and FFXV's extremely long development have really pissed off a lot of people. FFXV is definitely among the top of games GAF loves to hate.
I don't see any reason this game isn't going to be at least considered "good". The biggest problem I can see coming is maybe the battle system. But it has been considerably improved and extended over Duscae and the Platinum demo. I don't remember any gaming journalist who got to play the final battle system state that there was something wrong with it. On the contrary even. They all pretty much liked it.
I don't see any reason this game isn't going to be at least considered "good". The biggest problem I can see coming is maybe the battle system. But it has been considerably improved and extended over Duscae and the Platinum demo. I don't remember any gaming journalist who got to play the final battle system state that there was something wrong with it. On the contrary even. They all pretty much liked it.
It's my most anticipated game of all time. I literally watch vids of it everyday now before I go to sleep. I've been waiting 8 years for it and there have been some bumpy rides along the way, but I keep looking at the positives. I put almost 30 hours into Duscae alone so even if the combat was still like that I would be fine with it. I've replayed the Platinum demo 5 times and I enjoy it more than the first time playing it.
Should I keep my expectations in check? For sure, but I can't help it. I haven't been this excited for a product ever before. But I definitely see issues with the game that someone who isn't like me won't forgive. The weird combat system, the drab environments (imo I like the emptiness of some of it), the character designs (I like the characters themselves but I do think the Roen specific clothing is off putting), bad VA, etc etc etc.
I still have hope though.
Should I keep my expectations in check? For sure, but I can't help it. I haven't been this excited for a product ever before. But I definitely see issues with the game that someone who isn't like me won't forgive. The weird combat system, the drab environments (imo I like the emptiness of some of it), the character designs (I like the characters themselves but I do think the Roen specific clothing is off putting), bad VA, etc etc etc.
I still have hope though.
Ok. Just in case, can I quote you if we are wrong (I'm on your side).
Damn dude I thought I was anticipating this game but your on whole another level. But
I've been waiting longer - 10 years here 
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.orthodoxy1095
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Quote away.
Bingo. A metric ton of cash being spent on marketing and shit like movies doesn't mean anything if it's not productive marketing. That's called being ineffective and wasting money lol.
Seven Force
Banned
Somewhat looking forward to it. Some things I'm still pretty skeptical about, but Square's at least earned the benefit of the doubt from me.
Still taking a bunch of vacation days from work when this releases, tho
James Scott
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The weird thing about the movie and anime is that I imagine only fans of FFXV will watch it, and I don't imagine they need convincing.
Another potentially concerning part is if it's necessary to fully enjoy FFXV which increases the barrier of entry.
The anime showcases the backstory to each of the back street boys which seems pretty important to know since the game is you going on a road trip with them. The movie is a prequel showing the love interest and Noctis' father, which also seems important.
To be fair, it isn't really marketed as a mainstream theatrical release, so it might not really be that effective as great-looking it is and as appealing as it actually could be to a non-FF audience with its unique blend of reality/fantasy. I doubt having three known actors as VA is that much of a draw either. People don't care about VAs much over here.
The car is the best example of that, too. It's completely wasteful. It was a footnote at the very event where they announced it.
Alex
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First mainline title since FFIV that I *probably* won't buy on release day. Just doesn't look that appealing, we'll see how it goes. Little more interested in making time for DQ7 anyway. That one was always my favorite in the series.
Right now all I really want from Final Fantasy this year is to see the new expansion for FFXIV. Feels like that's the go-to place to actually get the Final Fantasy experience nowadays, the Heavensward campaign was wonderful. Wish that XIV had a better end game but I'm down for another campaign for sure.
Right now all I really want from Final Fantasy this year is to see the new expansion for FFXIV. Feels like that's the go-to place to actually get the Final Fantasy experience nowadays, the Heavensward campaign was wonderful. Wish that XIV had a better end game but I'm down for another campaign for sure.
The movie cost millions at the very least.
I really dont expect it to bring back its cost let alone bring in any significant profit.No general audience will be interested in this movie even if it actually turns out great.
If I were in charge,I'd have pumped all that movie money into the game to make sure its as feature complete as possible.
From the two demos ? Probably one of the worst FF main game ever, story/characters/content/difficulty/OST etc... wise, it's a big ????? My hype is pretty low and I won't take it day one for sure, the game has too many problems and feel rushed too, I'll wait for Gaf thoughts ( Not the initial ones though ).
KoopaTheCasual
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Weird, isn't it?
Don't think I've read a single fully negative preview for this game. Journalists seem to unanimously love what they've been able to play. GAF on the other hand doesn't waste a moment shitting on the game.
I feel like (on GAF) this game will go down like Dragon Age Inquisition. A critical darling, but despised by most outspoken members on this forum.
Oh wells, I'll still probably love every minute of it.
Blackleg-sanji1
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We've already had this happen in the movie thread. Tabata was surprised at the ticket sales I m sure it did fine
If Kingsglaive is actually a good movie like people are saying then I don't think it'll have problems attracting new people especially down the line when it goes up on streaming services. I watched Advent Children first and that's what got me to play Crisis Core and then finally FFVII (yes I know that's a weird ass order). The anime has potential to attract any anime fans but I agree this one will be more for the fans.
You don't need to know what happens in this things though since I'm more than certain those plot points will reveal itself throughout the actual game. Like there is no way some of the pretty big things in KG won't be mentioned in the game.
General? I can't get a good read on this, don't see much talk from people around me and on the internet it feels like everyone chooses an extreme, whether it's the best game or the worst.
Personally I've cooled down quite a bit since the big event back in Spring. I'll definitely play it at some point, but most likely not day one.
Personally I've cooled down quite a bit since the big event back in Spring. I'll definitely play it at some point, but most likely not day one.
we know how many copies SE need to sell to recover the investment alone?
orthodoxy1095
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I don't think I'd have pumped the money into the game. I'd have pumped into a more traditional marketing budget.
I'm not ashamed to admit that what got me to buy TW3 was a kickass trailer I saw on TV.
Dunno the numbers. At the least they need to push a volume high enough to show that FF is "back."
NoctisVsStar
Member
I'm surprised a trailer of all things did that to you, I say that because you're a Gaf member with more knowledge than the average joe.
GoldenCrow
Member
Then you will be disappointed. FF has never had good stories, gaming in general has never had good storys, capable yes but not good certainly not in comparison to other media. Unless you are one of those people that think Suikoden 2,Zero Escape and/or 999 are good stories then you might be in luck.
TheGreatDirector
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I'm really looking forward to the game but I'm expecting a Metacritic Rating anywhere from the low 70's to mid 80's at the most right now.
I have a feeling there will be a distinct lack of polish in the final game. Graphically there have already been a few glaring problems with the AA, IQ, frame rate, and resolution. I also think that battle system is really going to be hit or miss with people. I have no idea how good or bad the story will be as we haven't really seen a lot of it but the voice-acting dubs might hurt the final product. There's also a chance that game is just really padded with mundane tasks and side quests which makes the open world boring rather than engaging. I could also be wrong about all of this.
The music will be phenomenal though and Falk will become our NeoGaf overlord as his reward.
I have a feeling there will be a distinct lack of polish in the final game. Graphically there have already been a few glaring problems with the AA, IQ, frame rate, and resolution. I also think that battle system is really going to be hit or miss with people. I have no idea how good or bad the story will be as we haven't really seen a lot of it but the voice-acting dubs might hurt the final product. There's also a chance that game is just really padded with mundane tasks and side quests which makes the open world boring rather than engaging. I could also be wrong about all of this.
The music will be phenomenal though and Falk will become our NeoGaf overlord as his reward.
orthodoxy1095
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It came out right around college finals and I remember being on the fence because of low funds and low time.
A good trailer can certainly push even an enthusiast over the edge, let alone what it can do for a more general audience.
Edge_Maverick
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Enjoyed Duscae, played more than 30 hours... but Platinum was pretty bad on the other hand, so like Cor said: "It's complicated".
That said, I certainly have some concerns (mainly for combat, performance on consoles and how much interesting content is there), but still I'm quite confident in the game being at least "good". It's also lacking a big story trailer, but we might get one next week.
Really want the game to succeed though and I'll be there on day one.
That said, I certainly have some concerns (mainly for combat, performance on consoles and how much interesting content is there), but still I'm quite confident in the game being at least "good". It's also lacking a big story trailer, but we might get one next week.
Really want the game to succeed though and I'll be there on day one.
And that is not even all. In addition to a movie with star actors we also got the very high production value Uncovered Event, an anime series, a partnership with Audi as well as with Roen (popular Japanese fashion brand), Coleman and recently American Express.
On the contrary, SE is going all out on promoting this game. This will probably be the costliest marketing push for any of their games.
This is an exaggeration, now isn't it? I haven't read a fully positive preview for this game, and journalists do not seem to have a unanimous opinion of what they've been able to play.
There's a lot of spinning.
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
We can pull up the platinum demo impressions and compare it to the actual platinum demo thread if you want nothing he said was wrong
orthodoxy1095
Banned
You should read more widely then. It'll be good for you.
NoctisVsStar
Member
Joei
Member
I enjoyed the hell out of Duacae when it was first released and put a handful of hours into it, but yes, Platinum demo was atrocious except for the Iron Golem fight. And that only scratched the surfaces of what the combat system could be. It was quite honestly such a weird demo to release, I'm not sure what their intention was and I think did way more bad than good.
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JeremyEtcetera
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The only people who confuse me are those who think that every FF after the 13 trilogy will be just like 13 trilogy, and people who played old FF games (1-6) and do drive-by posts knowing full well they weren't interested in the game to begin with or at least haven't even looked up a single thing about the game just to be negative.
For the former, they've already shown that the game is open world, the story is simplified and less wordy(road trip, character based, about princes and kings), and that the combat system isn't as bad with not only announcements and footage, but also the Duscae demo. Those three things should be proof enough that this is the opposite of 13, especially when it comes to the main characters being much better in attitude and story than Lighting and Crew.
For the latter, there is a game you might like to check out called I Am Setsuna and also the FF mobile games they recently released if you want old school design back. If that still isn't enough to satisfy then wait for an indie dev to take advantage of a market that isn't being utilized/advertised well enough, like with what Stardew Valley did for the Harvest Moon genre.
I'm going to guess the game will ballpark around 7-8s out of 10 unless it does something truly special because just being open world in 2016 isn't enough anymore. It will make some 9's and 10's also but I don't see it making top 10 lists when people start discussing game of the year. I see it being number 11. I'm content with that as I just want a good solid open world Final Fantasy with a decent story, since we haven't had one for a while(I don't count 12 nor the MMOs)
For the former, they've already shown that the game is open world, the story is simplified and less wordy(road trip, character based, about princes and kings), and that the combat system isn't as bad with not only announcements and footage, but also the Duscae demo. Those three things should be proof enough that this is the opposite of 13, especially when it comes to the main characters being much better in attitude and story than Lighting and Crew.
For the latter, there is a game you might like to check out called I Am Setsuna and also the FF mobile games they recently released if you want old school design back. If that still isn't enough to satisfy then wait for an indie dev to take advantage of a market that isn't being utilized/advertised well enough, like with what Stardew Valley did for the Harvest Moon genre.
I'm going to guess the game will ballpark around 7-8s out of 10 unless it does something truly special because just being open world in 2016 isn't enough anymore. It will make some 9's and 10's also but I don't see it making top 10 lists when people start discussing game of the year. I see it being number 11. I'm content with that as I just want a good solid open world Final Fantasy with a decent story, since we haven't had one for a while(I don't count 12 nor the MMOs)
Have you read many previews at all? There aren't even that many people in the gaming press that are interested in JRPGs at all, let alone enough for there for the to be "unanimous love".
I can't fathom playing Duscae for 30 hours. I was bored after 30 minutes.
dragonzdogma
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This is scary, but it's the truth- I've doing this for the longest now.
My hype is at sub-zero temperatures. Constant delays, awful technical issues, unimpressive gameplay demos (that E3 boss fight was a disaster), and undeserved franchising (films, manga, anime, VR, mini games - and the game isn't even out yet!).
It seems like SE are more in love with the idea of making games than actually making them.
It seems like SE are more in love with the idea of making games than actually making them.
It would've been a much better investment to use the all-star VA cast that the movie has in the game instead.
And the game needs it too.Current VA isn't even up to XIII's level.