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FIFA 12 |OT| LOVE FOOTBALL, PLAY FOOTBALL
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First few club games yesterday for my club Sporting BBC.
We struggled, but scored some awesome goals! Less shit defending, but that could be down to use not facing so many 90 rated cheaters so far. We don't play with an ANY so when we run into teams who do it's so hard.
Can't do the whole "let the AI defend for you", dont even know what this means at this stage as I literally just booted it up, made a pro and jumped into clubs.
As club captain how do I control my AI players the same way as last year? Do I just have to not press a thing and let them do it on their own? Pressing RB makes them contain but doesn't make them tackle...
We struggled, but scored some awesome goals! Less shit defending, but that could be down to use not facing so many 90 rated cheaters so far. We don't play with an ANY so when we run into teams who do it's so hard.
Can't do the whole "let the AI defend for you", dont even know what this means at this stage as I literally just booted it up, made a pro and jumped into clubs.
As club captain how do I control my AI players the same way as last year? Do I just have to not press a thing and let them do it on their own? Pressing RB makes them contain but doesn't make them tackle...
Previous to my earlier post rubbishing this game, i would just like to confirm and add to it.
Trying the daily challenge kicks me out to desktop, there are NO players online whatsoever apparently, and my live season tells me i cant take part in any more matches as i'm currently up to date with the fixtures despite the fact that i'm not.
Combine this with an awful game engine and we're still waiting for a decent footy game.
But then again, EA is all about presentation, and in that regard its top notch. Shame thats all they give a shit about.
Trying the daily challenge kicks me out to desktop, there are NO players online whatsoever apparently, and my live season tells me i cant take part in any more matches as i'm currently up to date with the fixtures despite the fact that i'm not.
Combine this with an awful game engine and we're still waiting for a decent footy game.
But then again, EA is all about presentation, and in that regard its top notch. Shame thats all they give a shit about.
Metalmurphy
Member
Someone needs to tell the dev team that there's no advantage law in penalties... lol
Just saw the advantage icon pop up after a handball in the penalty box, referee only called the faul after a while.
Just saw the advantage icon pop up after a handball in the penalty box, referee only called the faul after a while.
Metalmurphy
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sneaky77 said:
I was under the impression that if there was a fault in the penalty box then the fault must be called immediately, instead of waiting to see what happens.
cartoon_soldier
Member
Metalmurphy said:
Depends on amount of time passed, I believe if the foul still leads to an immediate goal that would be fine up to the discretion of the referee of course.
Saren is Bad
Member
Goddamn this AI. Like seriously, fuck it in the ear. So fucked up. Hopefully next year all they do is fix it. Make the offense make better runs, make the defense hold its line and actually not be retarded. Oh, and for the love of God, help each player to not act as if they just shit themselves when a loose ball is 2 feet in front of them. Goddamnit.
sneaky77 said:
Yea they've really improved the AI for clubs this year, although not to a point where I can comfortably leave the ANY slot empty but that's probably cos I'm just obsessive in holding down my defence line (and controlling every player), despite the CPU doing a good job of that this year especially in tracking runs.
Links to online threads for those who missed them (added a couple to the OP):
yellow submarine
Member
Son of a bitch. I think my Career mode save is corrupted. I can't load the quick save, nor the regular save I've made.
Does anyone know where I can go and reset my "saved formations" data? My first guess it that my old formations & tactics carried over helpfully from FIFA using their feature has bollocksed things up.
Does anyone know where I can go and reset my "saved formations" data? My first guess it that my old formations & tactics carried over helpfully from FIFA using their feature has bollocksed things up.
Fuckin hilarious reading through all the complaints on TD in the official forums. Anyway, came across these fan-made manuals made a by certain john_wisdom over there (click on thumbnails to download pdf):
And a neat video on how to defend effectively for those who are still struggling:
And a neat video on how to defend effectively for those who are still struggling:
I find the constant switching pretty strange.adelante said:Fuckin hilarious reading through all the complaints on TD in the official forums. Anyway, came across these fan-made manuals made a by certain john_wisdom over there (click on thumbnails to download pdf):
And a neat video on how to defend effectively for those who are still struggling:
I'm able to defend on Legendary, but I can't score. I don't do crazy switching like that. I just contain, take away passing lanes, and force the AI to make mistakes.
Then I win in PK shootouts =3
I'm used to constantly switching around in previous FIFAs because player positioning was pretty shit in those games that I have to do it manually, which often meant not selecting the player nearest to the ball. But his point on maintaining line and structure carries more weight for online modes so I find frequent switching of players very useful there.JWong said:
Steve McQueen
Member
wtf? I just bought this for my son ( birthday ) and there is no manual?
There is a little ingame tutorial, but there must be a real manual somewhere right?
Someone know?
edit: just read it. What a joke that there is no manual included
There is a little ingame tutorial, but there must be a real manual somewhere right?
Someone know?
edit: just read it. What a joke that there is no manual included
Steve McQueen
Member
CozMick said:
Thanks for the reply
Pathetic that it's not included
Well I just go for the fanmade pdf
I can defend decently enough, my problem is offense. I constantly get in a position where I should be scoring (one on one with the keeper) but my balls always go screaming off into the stands. When should I be using the finesse shot? How long should I hold the power button down?
Penalty kicks also make no sense to me. Is the little meter that pops up how far left or right I'm going to kick it?
Penalty kicks also make no sense to me. Is the little meter that pops up how far left or right I'm going to kick it?
Princess Carl
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Steve McQueen said:wtf? I just bought this for my son ( birthday ) and there is no manual?
There is a little ingame tutorial, but there must be a real manual somewhere right?
Someone know?
edit: just read it. What a joke that there is no manual included
Sames with Gears 3. Fucking what is gaming coming to if you CAN'T GIVE US A 10 PAGE GODDAM MANUAL
Menelaus said:
This has been my problem all gen. I don't either have come close to PES6 (or 5 or 4..). FIFA 12 is my personal favourite of this generation but there are already things creeping into the experience that annoy me. Going to persist with it though.
Is there enough of a PC community on GAF for this to get a PC league going?
Steve McQueen
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Lead Based Paint said:
Yeah, noticed that too :/
In case of FIFA it's really annoying....there are many moves ( 7 pages pdf ) so how will you be able to master this game without the manual? Beats me...
wow thnx for thisadelante said:Fuckin hilarious reading through all the complaints on TD in the official forums. Anyway, came across these fan-made manuals made a by certain john_wisdom over there (click on thumbnails to download pdf):
And a neat video on how to defend effectively for those who are still struggling:
There is a manual. It's in the game.Steve McQueen said:wtf? I just bought this for my son ( birthday ) and there is no manual?
There is a little ingame tutorial, but there must be a real manual somewhere right?
Someone know?
edit: just read it. What a joke that there is no manual included
adelante said:Fuckin hilarious reading through all the complaints on TD in the official forums. Anyway, came across these fan-made manuals made a by certain john_wisdom over there (click on thumbnails to download pdf):
And a neat video on how to defend effectively for those who are still struggling:
Oh Shit. Anyone who is complaining that they suck at defending should watch this youtube video. The 'tap contain' method of defending is working wonders for me. I just came back from 6 online matches- and have been letting in less silly goals by avoiding the standing tackle button
That's how it is going to be with future games.Steve McQueen said:wtf? I just bought this for my son ( birthday ) and there is no manual?
There is a little ingame tutorial, but there must be a real manual somewhere right?
Someone know?
edit: just read it. What a joke that there is no manual included
Everyone is switching to ingame manuals. All EA sports titles were already announced to do so. Button Help in the settings menu is all there is for you.
No one has Messi's speed but Messi. He has the highest speed/acceleration stat.ElyrionX said:
I've been playing and beating World Class pretty handily now, but I don't see this kind of speed you're talking about.
Awesome Animals
Member
JWong said:
But the ingame manuals are a joke...
Steve McQueen
Member
JLG- said:
Nope. There are no full manuals. The ingame manuals suck donkey balls. A decent manual for a sports game should have a manual with all moves explained. Ingame manuals don't work, I can't see myself goin out of the game, to look up a move.
It's for people/kids with no experience a really dumb decision EA
It's okay to say ingame manuals suck, but to say that there isn't a full manual in the game (that lists everything) when there is one is a lie. I don't even think you tried looking for it before posting.Steve McQueen said:
There's like 20+ pages of controls in the game. Yes, it sucks, but it's there. Realistically, even previous FIFA game manuals didn't list all the moves in the game, so you'll be complaining regardless.
Damn this fucking game. Football it certainly isnt.
Playing on Pro, live season as Swansea, first 4 games -
Man City 3 - 0 Swansea
Swansea 0 - 0 Wigan
Swansea 0 - 0 Sunderland
Arsenal 4 - 0 Swansea
Not ONE fucking goal. Not one freekick to my side. Their keepers save everything, and i've got Wigan defenders 360'ing around me on the wings.
Jeezus.
Maybe PES will be better.
Playing on Pro, live season as Swansea, first 4 games -
Man City 3 - 0 Swansea
Swansea 0 - 0 Wigan
Swansea 0 - 0 Sunderland
Arsenal 4 - 0 Swansea
Not ONE fucking goal. Not one freekick to my side. Their keepers save everything, and i've got Wigan defenders 360'ing around me on the wings.
Jeezus.
Maybe PES will be better.
Steve McQueen said:
While I agree with you, I reckon Youtube is better than move lists in the manual. Lots of the stuff should only be used at certain situation until you are really confident as well.
I played H2H online a game today. Was early in the 2nd half and I'm 5-2 up, the rest of the games either me passing around between my defenders and midfielders keeping possession. Tactical Defend alright, the guy's so pissed because he couldn't pressure me enough to take the ball. All he could do was "containing" until I misplace a pass (which only happen once in 10 minutes). Once I scored the sixth goal, the guy was so pissed that he keep kicking the ball into his own net. The game ends 14-2. I'm not a jerk, I only tried this in this game to see if I can pull it off. People think ping pong passing is bad. While they didn't really fix that now they make it even harder to fight for the ball. Same people are gonna be even madder this year.
Tactical Defend. Sounds good on paper, feel interesting to begin with but you cant force the ball from opponent if they know it well. When the scoreline is still a draw, it's all good, back up and keep containing until they miss. Two goals down and you are almost fucked unless you have the ball, just like what I mentioned above.
In real life, some game you see two or even three players closing down the dribbler when they really need the ball. Say UCL final and you are two goals down in the last 10 minutes. I'll bet you cash that they wont be containing any more.
I'm starting to hear people complain about AI pin-point crossing to the header, which is also result from the fact that you can't pressure the crosser while positioning to defend the header. CPU AI is too perfect at this while player-side AI is a dumb ass at defending. This is very clear when you play lower side.
To me lots of changes done right in FIFA 12, love the new creation centre. But some changes just made something feel wrong (or even more wrong). Overall, I like the game but I'm not happy to play with AI. If I want this level of stress, I'd play Dark Souls instead of FIFA. Another case of over thinking and too much realistic that it will eventually kills the game for some people.
I only play World Class level tho, Legendary would be a big NO.
Sorry for db post, kinda wanting to separate this post from that big lump of text.
Has anyone tried this: playing with CPU at World Class or Legendary. Attempt sliding tackle, at obvious or bizarre situation. How successful are you out of ten times? I found AI react to the tackle AFTER I press the button but BEFORE the animation even start.
Has anyone tried this: playing with CPU at World Class or Legendary. Attempt sliding tackle, at obvious or bizarre situation. How successful are you out of ten times? I found AI react to the tackle AFTER I press the button but BEFORE the animation even start.
Jaded Alyx
Member
You have to try and stop the moving line in or as close to the green area as possible.Ezduo said:
The longer you hold down the shot button, the harder the kick.
While doing this, aim with the left stick but I always try to not hold the stick all the way in whichever direction as this will cause the shot to go wide.
Yeah, it's really hard to get the ball back on Legendary. But really that's how it is in real life. The defending in 11 was so ridiculous and unrealisitic, you just held A/x+sprint and your defender would home in like a cruise missile and take the ball every time.SumGamer said:
I usually play as Everton and I think it really results in much more realistic games. When I play teams like Arsenal or United, they dominate the game and most of the possession because I have trouble taking the ball away, where as playing against Wigan or Wolves it tends to be the opposite.
When it works properly I think it adds the appropriate tension and feel to certain matchups. That said, there are times where it's fucking infuriating, where they will pass the ball around in my penalty area for 25 seconds, then slow dribble through 2 defenders and score, even with mediocre players.
It's still only the 2nd week the game has been out though, so it's probably too early to judge.
It's funny because those were almost the exact scores of their first 4 matches this season in real life.SHarris78 said:
José Mourinho
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Oh shit, between learning how to attack and that defence tut I can actually play the game now. Mostly getting wins on world class.adelante said:Fuckin hilarious reading through all the complaints on TD in the official forums. Anyway, came across these fan-made manuals made a by certain john_wisdom over there (click on thumbnails to download pdf):
And a neat video on how to defend effectively for those who are still struggling: