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So tight. It's gonna be hard to combat against parry masters.
Cool, are any of these punishes that would not otherwise happen?
shaowebb
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Check out a comparison of the main life bars between Kamen Rider Chou Climax Heroes and Tatsunoko vs Capcom. Similar colors and bordering. Even similar contouring even though the shapes are different...just sort of gives the same feel overall.
Crazy thing was that sooooooo many Riders had so many crazy forms or were designed back in different editions of the series for different games with different meter setups and tools that there were actually a LOT of different meter designs for the Rider bar itself. Dudes had assault style gauges, card based ones for Ryuki, One that showed all the rings for Wizard to change forms with in a match, OOO's and Fourze both had gauges that showed their respective devices that you could loadout differently to mix and match their powers and moves from all their forms, and some even had other stuff too.
Not too different from TVC's gauge though for some of those styles.
I wouldn't be surprised if TVC was built off of the same base engine since the Climax Heroes games only ever came to Wii or PSP which each had engines setup for them. The PSP only because they had the PS2 engine and that stuff ran on PSP. It'd explain why TVC may never get ported to any other console. If it was based off the Rider game's engine it had to have been heavily modified for all the radically different things in that game. If they built TVC in that matter then it'd be too far removed from the basic engine to really hope for it to work by say trying to port TVC into the PS2 engine that runs on PSP stuff without having to actually rebuild all those new parts into that engine as well. If they had a licensed game they typically dumped it into the same engine the Climax Heroes games ran on (Bleach used it too). They could have possibly just treated TVC as another and dumped it into that base engine only to have to heavily modify it to suit Niitsuma.
This is all speculation really, but if so...it'd make a lot of sense for both how TVC ended up on the Wii to begin with and why they couldn't get it off of there. If any of this was true they would have essentially needed to have cowrote the same changes to the Wii version of that engine to the PS2 version of that engine as they made them to keep it straight unless they were godlike in coder notations. Even then it wouldn't have been entirely the same as likely things would need setup different for call functions and arrays on the PS2 engine. Anyhow if that is the case...TVC is a frankenstein successor of an engine originally made for PS2 that was converted to the wii. It would explain why it even went there to begin with...they already had a base engine for that console to build from to handle the Capcom title and it would allow eighting onto a "next gen" console with a fighting game. Not like eighting did anything on SFIV so at the time it was this or just keep putting stuff on PSP.
Most CA's are punishable on block, Ryu's CA isn't. And even if he parries the whole CA, he is vulnerable. The extra parry after the CA is complete, parrying the sweep, is something he wouldn't be able to punish otherwise
TheBee assist groove could Clock Up too! You had to tilt the analog up IIRC, and he would Clock Up instead of calling the troopers.
And he didn't even needed that to be bonkers.
His side special just felt too good to hit too.
Good to know, thanks.
shaowebb
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Yeah, I was super pumped when I found that out too! I remember running to Tokugaf to tell em about it. You could also clockup with some other stuff like Kabuto due to that. Made Hyper Kabuto insane.
Kreymore streaming some SF4 talking about first attack
http://www.twitch.tv/outkreyd
http://www.twitch.tv/outkreyd
Hyper Kabuto was always broken in the older games too, Chou Climax gave us Eternal to compete. Absolutely ridiculous specials and damage.
But my favorite thing still is Maximum Drive'ing W CycloneMetal and mashing X lol
what is damage scaling
it is cool but people just did ultra for the hell of it lol
never knew kreymore streamed lol
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the juri art for his channel... kreygasm
) due to the nature of his playstyle in previous games, despite him seemingly having the most openings and built-in drawbacks to his moves. He's definitely not as wild and abare as he used to be, and for the life of me, I don't understand why people have such a problem fighting him. He gets outzoned easily, has very poor mixup, and his neutral game during midscreen is a joke for the most part. Everything he DOES has an opening, and a simplistic punishment, and fighting against mixup heavy high low characters is a pain for him as he has absolutely NO safe option to deal with them. His attacks seem to be pretty poor as tools for use in anything other than when they're already hitting in a combo. Thrives when the opponent is cornered, though with limited ability to keep the opponent there as opponents jumping seems to be his main enemy. While his combos may be damaging, for a simplistic character, it seems they made the timings for his best combinations very strict, which is wild to me, seeing as if you managed to hit them, why do you not deserve your damage without struggling to pull it off? It's not the player's fault that they designed a simplistic character, but being that he's simplistic, he should not have to barely string his attacks together to get his damage. I propose the following changes to his moves, with brief explanations as to why I'm doing it, and how they would improve his gameplay."
...the hell? 8 pools with 4-5 players in each pool? why can't they just have a single bracket for the entire tournament since not many people are attending?
biosnake20
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That is gonna be so stupid... and hype.
i saw this earlier today, its honestly just gonna make the game go nuts if this happens. whats next for the marvel meta? unblockables on perfect wakeup frames?
If I had to take a guess, they likely want their locals to play international competition as much as possible before being knocked out. With round robin pools, they get to play everyone in the pools once vs. bracket pools where you are 0-2 and may not play anyone good.
Edit: And I just realized that Saigon Cup only has 39 people entered. This might easily be the least number of entries for a CPT major ever.
2nd Edit: Saigon Cup TO said there will be on site reg so it won't look this badly at the end.
KidA Seven
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Shit looks weak. I hope Gackt or Shiro take the whole thing or at least get 2nd place. I want somebody new in the top 32.
okay i'm fine with them doing round robin pools but it's still a relatively weak pool of players, especially considering that this is a CPTA qualifier.
man, it must be demoralising for shiro to travel to so many tournaments this year but only manage to secure a meager amount of points.
capcom, please give shiro "Best Attendance Award" at capcom cup as a consolation prize if he does not qualify for the event.
Crazy stuff, but probably not super applicable? I mean, to force it to occur, you have to force the screen to shift, which the guy in the vid does by landing a combo, and raw tagging after comboing into wall bounce. If that's the only real way to accomplish it, why would you forego a kill to do a nutty reset? Will be hype when somebody busts it out in tournament, but just sayin'.
Karsticles
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Best application I have seen is Ryan Hart parrying Bison's Knee Press on reaction in the neutral to punish with SRK.
KidA Seven
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Maybe you won't be able to land a kill with the combo and so risk doing this mix up.
It's quite rare that somebody can't kill off any touch these days, and when they can't, it's because they only have one char left, which means they wouldn't have access to this glitch. If you have teammate(s) left and can't kill, TAC/fake TAC reset will remain the best option.
For you to consider using it (aside from swag/styling on someone), you need a point that can combo into a wall bounce, no TAC infinite available via a teammate, and be in a situation where you can't kill.
This is just based on the video though- if there are other ways to cause it to occur reliably, things could pan out differently.
Jam news http://www.4gamer.net/games/303/G030342/20150908046/
Loketest on September 9th. I wonder if they'll change Johnny and Jack-O a bit with this loketest.
Also it looks like Jam parry has specific followups?
Loketest on September 9th. I wonder if they'll change Johnny and Jack-O a bit with this loketest.
Also it looks like Jam parry has specific followups?
I guess you're right. But maybe against high health characters like Hulk? Though even he can die in one hit. Often characters don't die only when a combo is dropped so no point in switching in that case.
They're bringing M.O.M mode to arcades?!
SquirrelSoup
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Jam looks so nice in the Xrd style.
It has been in arcade xrd since the beginning.
Probably there for the casual player who wants something other than the regular arcade mode.
KidA Seven
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MCZ sticks are never available. Fucking hell.
sixteen-bit
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This is neat. Could be cool to see how this evolves over the life of the game.
Gamerbee playing the latest SFV build
http://www.twitch.tv/bahagamecrazy
http://www.twitch.tv/bahagamecrazy
Vega looks really slow.
Game is slow.
notworksafe
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PS3 version is fine as long as you're on wired Internet. But anyone good is on Fightcade anyway.
Re: Fightcade, that's what I figured. Would kind of like to get my bearings back before jumping in with the sharks, knowwhatimean?
notworksafe
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If that's the case, then you'll be good in the shallow end with either the PS3 or the 360 version
Meh, these aren't reads or anything. Very easy to just mash parry for the critical arts.
Also, thread seems hella dead
I wonder why
twozerotwo
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I actually forgot this thread even existed. Haven't checked in a week and a half or so.
NoKappa
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Never played TvC before, thinking of getting it now actually lol, would probably be fun to run at weekly FG club
Aaaaaaaaaaah shit its time for some hype!
TVC HYPE
Muggshotter (Condor / Karas) vs mmKALLL (Zero / Ryu)
BONUS! Tatsunoko vs Capcom was at EVO 2015 this year in a $400 side tourney. Also it has over 100 write in votes for CEO-taku right now and folks are trying to make it happen. Plus it looks like we may be able to be a part of Frosty Faustings this year if things work out. CHECK OUT SOME EVO 2015 FOOTAGE!
EVO 2015 MD Micah (Zero/Tekkaman Blade) vs MC|GCYoshi (PTX-40)
EVO 2015 MC|KBeast (Karas/Morrigan) vs. Cless Aileron (Ken The Eagle/Polimar)
MagnoManX (Casshan/Megaman Volnutt) vs. Rotanibor (Tekkaman Blade/Ryu)
Never played TvC before, thinking of getting it now actually lol, would probably be fun to run at weekly FG club
This thread exists? I thought it was in a Marvel like state,
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