She needs stock to do basically any real combo without blowing meter in GA, so not really. Just get 6-9 stocks in normal mode, then kill them in GA. The only reason to use GA without stocks is if they are really low life or if you need the movement for like a second.
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She needs stock to do basically any real combo without blowing meter in GA, so not really. Just get 6-9 stocks in normal mode, then kill them in GA. The only reason to use GA without stocks is if they are really low life or if you need the movement for like a second.
sixteen-bit
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Asset reuse could lead to bigger rosters too. Shame they threw all the 2D stuff out from XII and XIII.
ThatCrazyGuy
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I wish they would recycle the sprites for some 2d side scroller or beatem up, or another mobile fg.
SquirrelSoup
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Nice. I thiiiink i might have seen Terumi's do it in their corner combos.
ShinMaruku
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If you think people in this thread can change some very thickheaded people's minds about the stigma? That would be pointless.
Nobody should have thought the PC version was gonna be good. It had all the warning signs of Hayashi making that shit fart out and die. Netcode on psn and live is a bit better but it depends on host and your connection. It could be better.
Unless that's random select, then it probably was a button check, but yes, if the random select gives you a certain stage, some characters have STUPID combos. For example my character who are already stupid has: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAqlvKXSJ8o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_N0e_gDYn_k
So the evironment is a big consideration. Also keep in mind what area you are in with what character you are fighting. Because any place with a wall and you are High counter thrown Ayane goes from a good girl to a freak.
irfaanator
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you watch fighting games?
ShinMaruku
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If one ones fighting games to be huge you have to monititze the viewing properly because you just won't get tens of millions of players at the rate some people are salivating at. Because Everybody loves to watch fighting games.
Osu 16 Bit
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I think DOA could overcome it's stigma and join the mainstream FGC in a bigger role. If MK did it so can they. It's up to it's community and developer.
ChamplooJones
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People love taking shots at games with smaller communities.
ShinMaruku
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MK and it's gore is much more acceptable culturally than DOA's pervyness.
I too think it can join the congolmerate, but not with help from the conglomerate it would have to grow and be self sustaining and have good numbers to force the rest of the FGC to accept it ala Smash.
However it can't be as insular as the Smash community, it's a good challenge. Team Ninja should try to get some deal with Sony like the Capcom cup thing and we'll see more stuff.
Nevermind that themewise and story wise it;s probably one of the darker plots since it all started by a evil rapist shinobi king making his family all try to merc him.
I too think it can join the congolmerate, but not with help from the conglomerate it would have to grow and be self sustaining and have good numbers to force the rest of the FGC to accept it ala Smash.
However it can't be as insular as the Smash community, it's a good challenge. Team Ninja should try to get some deal with Sony like the Capcom cup thing and we'll see more stuff.
Somehow I'll take credit for this progress.
CountBlack
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Saw the Famitsu scan of Nine. She looks pretty cool so far. Hoping she'll appeal to me as a Rachel player regarding pace.
Kokonoe had some fun neutral and setups, and I'm hoping for a bit of more of that again for Nine.
The FFVII battle theme remixed sounds week :[
Kokonoe had some fun neutral and setups, and I'm hoping for a bit of more of that again for Nine.
The FFVII battle theme remixed sounds week :[
CountBlack
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I don't mind it, happy they took a different approach than just a heavy metal/rock remix.
ShinMaruku
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Team Ninja gonna do work on Tifa. Mmmmm.
That's alot of fire. Hoping for Jubei one day.
Is CF the last main BB or something?
ShadowSoldier89
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her animations are fantastic
CF is supposed to be the one to finish the current storyline. BB5 is on the table, but itd be an new start to a new story, which could mean a lot of things like trimming the roster and introducing new main characters. nothing is known other than they said the series wont end with BB4, but Mori wants to take a break after it
Thanks for the clarification.
Was hoping it was the case. BB5 also sounds good if they are going that way.
The only way DOA can get rid of its stigma is to make the game not DOA. People are going to continue to not take the game seriously as long as it features jiggle physics and scantily clad female characters beating each other up regardless of the improvements to the gameplay. It also needs to offer more to those who currently don't play DOA to pay attention to it.
BBCF is also looking good, but they better not announce a new BB right after I buy the console version.
There's games that offer stuff for the casual player, but what can you really do if someone doesn't enjoy playing against another opponent?
I think people will be into SFV because it's Street Fighter. The matchmaking/netcode/PC crossplay/fight money/continuous DLC will help keep those who are already into the game invested in it.
BBCF is also looking good, but they better not announce a new BB right after I buy the console version.
There's games that offer stuff for the casual player, but what can you really do if someone doesn't enjoy playing against another opponent?
I think people will be into SFV because it's Street Fighter. The matchmaking/netcode/PC crossplay/fight money/continuous DLC will help keep those who are already into the game invested in it.
ShadowSoldier89
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or people will eventually get over it like they did with MK's violence
Unfortunately people are more OK with Violence than DOA pervyness
MK makes the violence part of the gameplay too wherein the fanservice seems it's just there for the sake of it.
ShadowSoldier89
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they are now, but they werent in 1992
ShinMaruku
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Exactly why you never try to appeal to the current FGC. That is pointless because human nature and just overall fuckery will be an impedement. Or some good money. Money does things to people. Ideally DOA has to convert enough of it's own native base to reach people and convert them then use that to cross over. NOT to try to convert sf players or tekken or whatever else that's pointless and wasteful.
Indeed.
DOA might take longer tho unless it removes it which i doubt will happen.
Like the gameplay alot too and if the fanservice is what's making it get ignored by people i don't see why they don't want to tone it down.
Unless they don't give a shit.
ShinMaruku
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Game has been toned down and people still brought up the old things. Thus they don't give a fuck and rightly so. People always remember old shit and never look at positives that have been given. It's common human psychology trap. Like I always give my point don't try to get those people, that's a lost cause by merits of the game.
Osu 16 Bit
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You're right it's a lost cause with those people. Just like MK still gets a lot of hate and downplay. We just have enough playing that the critics don't matter, we're at every major anyway. The DOA community needs to build up tournament numbers among those who will play it. If they can't then it's probably something about the gameplay and not the boobs.
ShinMaruku
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Well said. Just build up a scene and when it's large enough and it has developer support it will get shine. It's how DOA4 got shine Microsoft gave that game a lot of shine and bam it was in EVO and other things. Just a scene at critical mass and developer support will push it to join the ranks. But not until it's house is in order.
Common psychological trap that people will always look to what is in the past to keep up their disdain. Nevermind the hypocracy of them loving Mika's ass when DOA had the booty before it. Or the fact that Cammy started the boob bounce.It's what they have so they ignore the lewd stuff which is why Capcom missed the point when censoring it. Those guys will ignore that shit because it's sf. It's a human behavior trap.
CountBlack
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SFV should bring back Championship mode tbh
You cant go from DOA4 and X2 to "we want to be taken seriously" just like that, then have 2000 skimpy costumes and X3 be a thing as well. Marie Rose being the face of things is just extra hilarious too.
Theres a whole nother set of stuff but I mean thats what the average person sees when they think of DOA.
Theres a whole nother set of stuff but I mean thats what the average person sees when they think of DOA.
ShadowSoldier89
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I really hope that gets localized.
"taken seriously" is pretty irrelevant. The average person doesnt give a shit about the tournament scene either. The game needs to overcome the fact that the 3D scene is pretty weak right now. Even tekken has trouble pulling in competition. Its up to its own community to pull that together, the sales of the games surely arent holding it back.
Better off just buying the Asian version because it has English subs and won't be censored in anyway.
ShinMaruku
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The general public thinks Street Fighter is something inscrutable and difficult to get into and is not rewarding for the effort they would put in.
I just find it funny with the Mika love people would not just put perviness as something to put on the game. I mean shes lewd as fuck and seems fun to the people who like her. I hate grapplers so she missed on me.
I just find it funny with the Mika love people would not just put perviness as something to put on the game. I mean shes lewd as fuck and seems fun to the people who like her. I hate grapplers so she missed on me.
Take that people who think I'd love her for being lewd! You guys should know better.
ShadowSoldier89
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I dont like japanese voice acting though
Adding fuel to the fire.
It being the biggest thing in the public eye from a distance doesn't help much. That's all they'll see and think about. SF and others are getting away with it cos they have it in doses and don't put too much of a spotlight on them so when they have one it has extra hype. Revealing costumes and specific breast mechanics aren't advertised as such.
MiniBossBattle
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I know that CapcomProTalk is for twitch, but how am I supposed to listen to it if I miss it? It feels like it takes awhile for the capcom youtube page to upload it.
ShinMaruku
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You see that's the thing, Hayashi is not the one to say "We want to be taken seriously" He's more like make people enjoy the game. If a game gets in on merits of gameplay then it should over take whatever stigma it has if you believe it's all about merits of gameplay
Nobody believes that truly. :E
I just want the game to remain stable as it goes and gets some shine at some events and it has been doing that dispite a hostile scene to it. If it keeps on the trajectory that it does from DOA5 to U to Last Round it should do fine in time.
There is indeed a fine game in there but I don't expect some to come to it regardless if the game is solid because "If the game is solid I'll give it time" is a empty platitude.
Thus I showcase it here for those who do give it a look.
By subbing to their twitch channel?
call_kotaku
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So the perception of DOA being a fanservice franchise is just a collective delusion produced by our Capcom bias?
Doesn't this franchise has a volley game attached to it?
Thomasorus
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I was talking with a friend yesterday about how the two new characters of BlazBlue (Naoto and Hibiki) look like they could be the new main protagonists if they had to reboot BlazBlue (probably with the Xrd engine). They both seem to share the personnality of Ragna and Jin, they have the same color code and Naoto's power is related to Ragna's. And from a character design perspective, they both look like more "actual" versions of Ragna and Jin, whose designs is starting to age a bit.
Ultrachen's introductory episode of the Capcom Cup Player Showcase:
https://youtu.be/dRO4stJP56s
https://youtu.be/dRO4stJP56s
Could this actually be a thing? That's fantastic if so.
Seeing them take over for Jin and Ragna is what i would to see.
Probably posted earlier, but for all you One Punch Man fans
https://twitter.com/INFILTRATION85/status/666862640510058496
https://twitter.com/INFILTRATION85/status/666862640510058496
sixteen-bit
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if blaz and guilty are on the same engine u know folks are gonna beg for the crossover
I don't see people getting over the sexuality in DOA. We just had an episode of UltraChen yesterday leading off with Buttgate. Sexuality is still taboo in our society.
If you want to see DOA mainstream, then it starts with the developers designing a game that appeals to a wider audience who would want to come out of the house to play it competitively. With the way DOAX3 is going, I don't see the series appealing beyond the existing audience and those who are just interested in the fanservice. A little fanservice is fine which is why Street Fighter doesn't have the same stigma, and SFV can now get away with characters bouncing all over the place and people going crazy over Ryu with a beard.
Many players will disregard a game if the first thing that they see is fanservice, nor will they do much to actually get rid of the stigma that they may have for a game, so it starts with the people making the game if you want to see that changed.
If you want to see DOA mainstream, then it starts with the developers designing a game that appeals to a wider audience who would want to come out of the house to play it competitively. With the way DOAX3 is going, I don't see the series appealing beyond the existing audience and those who are just interested in the fanservice. A little fanservice is fine which is why Street Fighter doesn't have the same stigma, and SFV can now get away with characters bouncing all over the place and people going crazy over Ryu with a beard.
Many players will disregard a game if the first thing that they see is fanservice, nor will they do much to actually get rid of the stigma that they may have for a game, so it starts with the people making the game if you want to see that changed.
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