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call_kotaku
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I don't remember any recent competitive multiplayer game that allowed you to drop out of a game in order to prevent a loss. That and the uneven rollback situation are really huge blunders and go beyond trying to regulate toxic or disruptive behavior, it's just poor design.
sixteen-bit
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Tradition is the enemy of progress
SquirrelSoup
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At the very least i want it to count as a win for the player that sticks around and a loss for the one that leaves. Hell, add a proper in-game 'Retire' option for those people too salty to watch the remainder of a match.
But -ideally- i want the player that sticks around to get a bonus. Probably not bonus LP, but perhaps bonus chara xp or FM. And show this to the quitter. "Your previous match was not finished properly. Your points are deducted and your opponent gets a present. " I'm more a fan of the carrot than the stick. If ragequitting is visibly beneficial to the victim in some way i'm sure we'll see much less of it. No ragequitter wants to do the opponent a favour.
I don't see how it's a weird complaint. The last time i played i couldn't win a single match, because every time i got close to winning they quit. My friend said he played 9 matches one evening and got 8 ragequits.
So yeah, fixing that is high on my list of requested features. Second only after actually working lobbies.
skLaFarebear
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Just make RQing the same thing as losing while giving the person who stayed their FM/exp/win. There doesn't need to be anything else. The reason people get mad over RQers is because they're not getting anything from it.
pineapplepizza
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Nah I'd rather they are punished harder for repeat RQs or DCs than caring about anything I earn from it. Forget any points I may earn, I simply don't want to play against RQ'ers at all.
It is not enough that I should succeed, other's should fail.
NCR | No meme (Daigo) this time
The ideal fix (the fix that damn near every game uses) is to give the quitter an immediate loss and the other player a win. It's not rocket science.
For Japan it is.
skLaFarebear
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But why? If RQing is the same consequences as losing and they just quit at the end of the match, who cares? You're still getting your LP/FM/exp and they're still losing their LP.
This also helps the case in which accidently disconnecting from a match only counts as a loss instead of some big mark on your record where you're getting punished super hard for it.
When it's good it's great, when it's anything other then good it's a complete mess.
skLaFarebear
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SFV netcode >>>>>>> SF4 netcode >>>>>>>> SFV netcode when the connection is bad
It's been fine for me since the final beta.
Holy Order Sol
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it's the best and the worst netcode ever
it's genuinely unplayable for me right now for some reason i don't understand but at the very least that's prompted me to play fightcade a lot, lot more
when it's fine, it's alright but it's hard to tell because of that thing where it dumps 100% of the rollbacks onto one person only so what may seem like a great connection might be teleport hell for the guy you're playing and you have no way of really knowing
irfaanator
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Like one of the reasons I believe many ppl rq is just due to the fact that there is a trophy linked to having 3k lp. I bet if that wasn't in there this issue would never have really blown up as much as it did
There's a trophy? Must not have noticed/come up for me.
call_kotaku
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It works great over good connections, but it drops off really quickly and even 4-bars are usually unplayable for me
The fact that a lot of the time only one person "feels" the lag because the other player is the one constantly getting rollback probably contributes to all these inconsistent experiences.
I dont like it. Theres something wrong with how it handles desyncs that it never recovers. Ive noticed this the most in lobbies. I cant play with a couple of friends because its so bad between us. Also it needs better ping display.
Have made really bad experiences playing with friends. Matches on a wired connection with 3 and even 4 bars shouldn't be that bad. But even so I had matches against people in the same region and some were fine while others were unplayable. Their implementation of rollback is one of the worst ones I have seen so far.
My worst experiences were in lobbies as well. Matchmaking is usually okay but far from great, really.
FormallyFamicom
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Anything less than 5 bars for me is teleport city.
I'm really liking that boxer dude in the KOFXIV trailer but I'm SUPER salty that they just couldn't bring back Vanessa instead.
MiniBossBattle
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Please understand
sixteen-bit
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Are you an expert?
FormallyFamicom
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But the currently #1 ranked player WORLD COMBO is from Japan and got docked for ragequitting.
Just seems like a dumb oversight in general since it wasn't an issue in SF4 from what I understand.
Somebody rage quit on Daigo's stream in front of XX,000 viewers
Thomasorus
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Previous posts about character design (personal opinion of course):
- Arc and following anime trends
- Why Xrd fall short with redesigns and new characters
- How FrenchBread mixes effective design with trendy things
- Comparing Hyde with Ragna and Sol design effectiveness
- The changes applied to Millia from XX to Xrd
- Same for Potemkin
I'll write something about KOF later.
Edit : you should read this article by Art Eater about what makes KOF characters so amazing. Watch a trailer right after and you'll probably start having an idea of the problem.
He picked a Japanese flag, doesn't mean he's from Japan.
shit is not even a real ragequit, ppl quit cuz they dont wanna lose points, streaks and rankdown.
thanks, will read.
thanks, will read.
you know he's not from japan?
I have no idea, just saying that when you set up your CFN you can pick whatever flag you want.
Sorcerer Supreme
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another thing capcom really fucked up that sf4 had
hitsugi
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This. When you get a good match, it's pretty damn good. But on the other hand....
I do wish Capcom had a way of detecting when a match spiraled into unplayable territory. If a match starts off as or suddenly becomes a slideshow, both players should be dropped. I'd actually put this higher up on my list of annoyances than ragequitting. Those matches are genuinely pointless.
Lostconfused
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FLCL made by a completely different studio, probably by nobody involved with the original.
Hell I bet next thing we know Nether Realm Studios are making a Darkstalkers sequel.
Hell I bet next thing we know Nether Realm Studios are making a Darkstalkers sequel.
Professor Beef
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I want this
call_kotaku
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it's like that old internet post about how because parallel universes exist it means that digimon are real
So this just got announced: http://avyd.com/championship.php
No clue what Avyd is, but apparently they're working with NCR, Combo Breaker, CEO, SCR/LevelUp, and The Big House (and probably more) in some capacity.
No clue what Avyd is, but apparently they're working with NCR, Combo Breaker, CEO, SCR/LevelUp, and The Big House (and probably more) in some capacity.
Never heard of that company before.. 🙄 "unknown company promising good things" doesn't exactly have a good track record in the fgc
The lack of penalty for RQs in SFV is one of the most baffling things about the game. It's something so extremely basic that the only logical answer I can entertain there being is that they ran out of time/money and just shipped what they had.
ViewtifulJC
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good post, professor beef
KidA Seven
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Noooo
Kalamari
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Of course. I watch lots of anime and had a japanese girlfriend.
I kind of agree, but Jebailey, TheHadou, and Juggleguy are all working with them and they're the best TOs out there. Alex Valle is working with them as well.
KidA Seven
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It's da beach all over again.
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