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Yep, saw your correction after posting, just be careful, raw EX tatsu whiff on Karin's sweep at max distance. And I find st.LK xx Ex tatsu easier since you start with a single button input instead of doing qcb 3K right after holding down back to block.
FINALLY getting to play SFV for a few minutes now and mess around with it a bit. Is there really nowhere in game where it just gives you a straight win/loss number for casual and ranked? Am I crazy? I know you can look through your game history but that's not really practical, and only goes back 100 games.
direct_quote
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Well when I played those characters people had to play my game. Now I have to learn match ups now ayy...
Biggest challenge for me now is opening people up, even after finding my way to start offense good players can just block/tech everything I do. Coming from playing I-No and Millia in Xrd, this wasn't something I had to think much about, being in some's face there, they'd have to pray really hard to not get opened up.
RockTurtle
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man FUUUUUUCK Birdie st. mk
Capcom need to fix survival mode, it's already random enough playing against input reading AI, did they really have to randomize what's available to buy between rounds?! Biggest problem though is that finishing higher difficulties doesn't unlock the lower difficulty colors, you have to play through easy to unlock easy color, even if you already completed hard survival.
What the fuck is blood poisoning? Were leaches required
Try mashing something on the VS screen; I've only Share Played a bit of Enbu, but the original PC version let you cancel out of the VS screen WELL before the music really gets going.
The game is rather Samurai Shodown in style -- counter hits are a big, big, big, big deal in this game, and there's not a ton of stuff that leaves you at major advantage. To put it in SF terms, imagine if Crush Counter caused a Focus Attack crumple state.
Command normals have very similar properties between characters (6B is usually an overhead that bounces on CH, 3C is a sweep, etc.) but actual usage and properties vary a good bit. It's a quick and fairly grounded footsies game with Anime Porno Game aesthetics, so naturally, it's totally screwed now that a grounded footsies game with more widely-appealing characters has launched.
I like playing the Wei general with the bow, Xiahou Yuan. She has the expected arrow attacks, which can be delayed to frame-trap and snipe people out of the air, a weird hit-grab which I *think* has clash frames but is surprisingly hard to use for such, and a really weird and cool teleport special. You create a blue sparkly "field" at a range you select on the ground, and if the opponent is touching it, you'll warp behind them and shoot an arrow, which you can link off of on counter-hit. It's a really neat tool to keep people on their toes and potentially get out of bad situations if you use it smartly. (And I think the EX version, in addition to tracking the opponent, has startup invincibility).
If you see someone at a tournament running it in the Poverty Corner, go give it a try! It's A Good Game(tm)!
Professor Beef
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your urien is cheeks though
RockTurtle
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so Gief is the killer of dreams in Survival mode right?
Rice-Eater
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Speaking of Urien, I hope he isn't a charge character in V. I really want to give him a try in SFV but I don't play charge characters. It'll be interesting to see how his Aegis reflector is used in this new engine. I think Rashid's tornado thingy should give us a idea. He may only have one(no way will he have 2 on screen at the same time), but it may have more active frames and a much larger hit box than it does in 3S.
Salt in bloodstream.
What... can't open up people without a proximity lock down and unreactable high lows? AyyBiggest challenge for me now is opening people up, even after finding my way to start offense good players can just block/tech everything I do. Coming from playing I-No and Millia in Xrd, this wasn't something I had to think much about, being in some's face there, they'd have to pray really hard to not get opened up.
I'm SFV frame trap plus throw is the main way you have to open someone. Sometimes cross ups work but not as good as in SFV.
skLaFarebear
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Agreed. The characters that have the strongest footsie game are the better characters.
Lolololol exposed.
Lol, that was probably because of me this morning. idk how to change my discord name
Ehhhh tough shit. Gill is not very fun to play. If they made one of his down up moves a command that would be alright though.
skLaFarebear
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If I had one complaint about this game, it's probably the risk/reward of just jumping in. With the overall speed increase to jumping, it's a much more viable strategy to jump in a lot more on your opponent. And while I'm definitely not a fan of the FA mechanic as a whole in 4, it did keep people that like to jump a lot in check where if they didn't play it safe they could be eating a lot of damage, unlike this game where barring a super, there isn't much punishment for getting AA by nearly all of the characters. And generally in 4 jumping in was slower and the anti-air options were much better as a Hugo/Ryu player.
Idk, it could just be me being salty qas a Laura main when you combine her pretty bad AAs with my bad reflex timing, I just can't stop people from jumping in on me even when i try practicing it in the training room
Idk, it could just be me being salty qas a Laura main when you combine her pretty bad AAs with my bad reflex timing, I just can't stop people from jumping in on me even when i try practicing it in the training room
I have been spoiled. ( -__-)
Playing Chun, I'm way more comfortable just going back to poke range, which I guess make sense for the character.
The useless knee dive is what ever(which wouldn't be useless without parry I guess), but the headbutt has to stay charge.
Its used for corner unblockables. Midscreen too I think but dash headbutt partition is better. It would be a perfect fit for a motion though.
I don't understand the use for Cammy's f+HK.
Game doesn't have FAs so multi hitting moves aren't as desirable. It also leads to easier reversals on block. If you hit with the move you get less damage than if you hit with a st.MP. It's too slow to punish with.
It seems like it's supposed to be used for meaties but st.MP is a fine option instead. Now if it evades throws because of being airborne or has lower body invincibility there might be something here.
Game doesn't have FAs so multi hitting moves aren't as desirable. It also leads to easier reversals on block. If you hit with the move you get less damage than if you hit with a st.MP. It's too slow to punish with.
It seems like it's supposed to be used for meaties but st.MP is a fine option instead. Now if it evades throws because of being airborne or has lower body invincibility there might be something here.
MiniBossBattle
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Give us green-cup-a-fart-hand.
Doesn't it go over certain lows and makes you airborne, so you cant be thrown? http://watissf.dantarion.com/sf5/boxdox/#v1_1/A45-6HK_yobi-37
biosnake20
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Seems like if you play SFV on a semi consistent basis you can pretty easily get enough fight money to get the dlc characters as they come out.
CountBlack
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TES2+ stick came in. The touchpad has already been a godsend.
It moves her forward and is only -2 and can be linked after on hit. That's valuable by itself. It's also combo filler after HK CC.
notworksafe
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commentary folks getting sponsorships now?
You shouldn't underestimate the range on it. It's not actually airborne, so it doesn't beat throws or lows, but you can move into and then just outside of throw range before using it instead of meaty st.MP. It's still not amazing by any means though. Just throw out a DP after it now and then when it gets blocked to put the fear of abare into them.
That DacidBro sponsorship is baffling. There are demonstrable points in his commentary where he lacks game knowledge, and while he sometimes places well, I feel like the first Persona Arena was the last time he won a tourney.
EG sponsored a guy to do Starcraft 2 commentary for a long time during that game's heyday. And Cognitive Gaming already sponsors EE, a Smash 4 commentator.
Already underway.
He made Top 8 at CEO last year, yes.
Doesn't he play?
I didn't even open twitter and I called it within a minute of seeing it. Shit's predictable as hell.
So Chun have a lot of high execution stuff, mostly with delayed cancels which you can't abuse SFV's generous buffer to make easier, and most of the time they're required for optimal combos. Wonder if other characters have this, high level Chun will look nothing like your regular Chun even if the only thing you see in high level play is combos.
Cindi Mayweather
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Chun is definitely higher execution and I dare any mother fucker who said this game has low execution to stop playing Nash or Laura and play Chun Li and then shut the fuck up.
Posted in OT already but here http://youtu.be/f-6eOzibNQo
Mostly show off combos but there are also some crazy tech that I can see being used in future competitive play. That dhalsim super set up yo.
Mostly show off combos but there are also some crazy tech that I can see being used in future competitive play. That dhalsim super set up yo.
CountBlack
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MiniBossBattle
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I appreciated Dacidbro's Evo commentary for BB top 8. He was earnest and excited and made things understandable.
edit; Count please. I will be practicing my Cammy combo j.lk, cr lk, cr lp, spiral arrow.
edit; Count please. I will be practicing my Cammy combo j.lk, cr lk, cr lp, spiral arrow.
RockTurtle
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but necalli combos so ez doe...
Hey doing c.mp xx qcf+mp is hard with Laura. That'll be like trial 12.
Well time to test it in training mode then.
It being -2 means I am not going to be using it much, st.MP is +2 and decent range on it for a mid punch. But if you can't throw it then that's make it interesting.
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