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Tallshortman

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The Light said:
Even with that chasing the cup still had more viewers


Honestly thought CW main demographic wouldn't be into it. Guess the demo has changed with dc shows taking over?
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CW has the youngest demo among the networks, and plus CW is network vs. cable ESPN means people don't need cable to watch it. Most of their shows feature attractive young people as the whole cast, it's clear what they've gone for.
 
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Line_HTX

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Was that the specialized Capcom Pro Tour stage just released? And I'm pretty sure a boxing ring background would attract more viewers than a grid Training Stage to hold your hand on spacing via lines.
 
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Rice-Eater

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pixelish said:
evo espn ratings is out



we did pretty good if you compare evo ratings to the ratings for heroes of the dorm
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I'm pretty happy about those numbers to be honest. But I'm not sure I should be lol. It's double what HOTS did but I don't know if ESPN is satisfied with them. I hope they are though. Enough for Capcom Cup and EVO against next year.

Immortal Technique said:
As far as actually showing live NFL games, ESPN only has the Monday night game.

On Sunday, sure they have lots of NFL news/recap programming, but that fits on ESPN. I'm not really sure there's anything special on ESPN2 on Sunday nights in the fall, am I wrong? I don't think a Capcom Cup show on ESPN2 would necessarily be out of the question.

But there's also the issue of whether ESPN2 would want Capcom Cup. Capcom Cup is a tougher sell than EVO. It doesn't have the prestige, the history, the number of entrants that EVO does. There's no chance of the Cinderella story. It gets about half(?) the Twitch viewership of EVO. But, maybe if ESPN were really impressed with EVO's rating, they may want to double down on SFV programming,
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I completely forgot that ESPN only has Monday night game instead of Sunday night. But I'd still fear having Capcom Cup at the same time as Football or even just Sportcenter or a Football highlight show. I would want it to do good and I'm afraid it won't when against the likes of those.

As for prestige, that won't matter IMO. EVO has no prestige when all these people tuned in for the very first time. To them all it was was video games on TV. It turns out many of them liked it. Capcom Cup will pretty much be more video games on TV again, featuring the same game though. And hopefully those people and then some tune in again. It fighting games 2nd biggest event of the year so if anything gets shown on TV besides EVO, it would be this I guess.
 
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Marz

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I really don't think the NFL is really going to affect the viewership of nerds who watch twitch.

Don't think there would be significant crossover and if there was I think Capcom Cup would be a higher priority than a regular season NFL game for your average stream monster.
 
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Line_HTX

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Marz said:
I really don't think the NFL is really going to affect the viewership of nerds who watch twitch.

Don't think there would be significant crossover and if there was I think Capcom Cup would be a higher priority than a regular season NFL game for your average stream monster.
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I'm glad I'm a person who loves both, lol.

Watch as ESPN's excuse is because it's December it's the time when a lot of teams are racing for the playoffs and stuff.
 
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KidA Seven

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Immortal Technique said:
Trust me, it's an average. Look at AMC, it says 1.3 million and they have a regular show Walking Dead which does 10+ million
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Yep, it is average. If anything, it shows evo did better than the other esports shows on tv when you compare their viewers to their respective channel's average viewership.


One key factor we are missing is time of day, and day of the week.
 
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Kumubou

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One thing to note is that competitive videogames in general tend to skew much younger than the typical viewership for these networks, which is something they desperately need.

Also, I thought the ESPN2 broadcast of Evo was also much better paced than something like TBS' eLeague. The ESPN broadcast was shockingly fluff-free -- the broadcast was about an hour longer than the finals would have been typically but they generally kept good pace and the focus was clearly on the games themselves.

KidA Seven said:
Btw, I was very surprised they only used 1 stage for all of top 8.
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Maybe that's their solution to all of the other stages in the game causing framerate issues. I'll laugh if that stage is the only one that runs at a locked 60fps and Capcom is charging $10 for the privilege.
 
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Tripon

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Kumubou said:
One thing to note is that competitive videogames in general tend to skew much younger than the typical viewership for these networks, which is something they desperately need.

Also, I thought the ESPN2 broadcast of Evo was also much better paced than something like TBS' eLeague. The ESPN broadcast was shockingly fluff-free -- the broadcast was about an hour longer than the finals would have been typically but they generally kept good pace and the focus was clearly on the games themselves.


Maybe that's their solution to all of the other stages in the game causing framerate issues. I'll laugh if that stage is the only one that runs at a locked 60fps and Capcom is charging $10 for the privilege.
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The background characters on Ring of Destiny certainly looked to be moving at a much faster rate than other stages.
 
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ShinMaruku

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Kumubou said:
One thing to note is that competitive videogames in general tend to skew much younger than the typical viewership for these networks, which is something they desperately need.

Also, I thought the ESPN2 broadcast of Evo was also much better paced than something like TBS' eLeague. The ESPN broadcast was shockingly fluff-free -- the broadcast was about an hour longer than the finals would have been typically but they generally kept good pace and the focus was clearly on the games themselves.


Maybe that's their solution to all of the other stages in the game causing framerate issues. I'll laugh if that stage is the only one that runs at a locked 60fps and Capcom is charging $10 for the privilege.
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I kinda want that to be true just to spite the only use of training mode
 
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Line_HTX

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High roller tournament circuit with a pay to play stage for the duration of the tournament.

Sounds good! :p



Eww, fuck The Walking Shit.
 
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Neoxon

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Tripon said:
The background characters on Ring of Destiny certainly looked to be moving at a much faster rate than other stages.
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The background characters seem to be much more optimized in the DLC stages (I.E. Air Force Base, High Roller Casino, Kanzuki Beach, & Ring of Destiny) than the stages from the base game.

KidA Seven said:
Btw, I was very surprised they only used 1 stage for all of top 8.
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  • As Dahbomb, gotta sell that DLC.
  • Ring of Destiny changes parts of the background to correlate with whatever CPT tournament is going on at the time (in that case, it had EVO stuff in the background screens since EVO 2016 was happening), so it made perfect sense to use it for Top 8.
 
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CO_Andy

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Personally i was getting bored of the Ring of Destiny as the matches went on.

If SF's gonna go eSports then it needs more spectacle like the stage finishers in Bustling Side Street. I'm sure the ESPN viewership would of gotten a kick out of stuff like the noodle hat or being kicked into a bus.
 
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Neoxon

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CO_Andy said:
Personally i was getting bored of the Ring of Destiny as the matches went on.

If SF's gonna go eSports then it needs more spectacle like the stage finishers in Bustling Side Street. I'm sure the ESPN viewership would of gotten a kick out of stuff like the noodle hat or being kicked into a bus.
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Didn't Tripon ask that question during the EVO panel & Capcom said that they would look into it (or something along those lines)?
 
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NEO0MJ

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The worst thing about SF V's stages is that they don't even look that good in comparison to the other fighters released this gen. Like, only Smash has as ugly stages but it makes up for it with quantity and running well.

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Didn't Tripon ask that question during the EVO panel & Capcom said that they would look into it (or something along those lines)?
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I think I read something like that, yeah.
 
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I-hate-u

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CO_Andy said:
Personally i was getting bored of the Ring of Destiny as the matches went on.

If SF's gonna go eSports then it needs more spectacle like the stage finishers in Bustling Side Street. I'm sure the ESPN viewership would of gotten a kick out of stuff like the noodle hat or being kicked into a bus.
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How do you add stage transitions to only 1 stage? What were they thinking?
 
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Kadey

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Accordingly to Aris the guy who ran on stage after Chris G won challenged him to a match. Mr. Wiz was scare of him so he ran. He ran faster than he did during his race against Floe.
 
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I-hate-u

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sixteen-bit said:
Funny enough, it was the very first stage they showed too (back at Capcom Cup 2014 where Mike Ross got noodle'd)
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It was a promising concept and made me look forward to the other stages. Why would they even show such a stage in the beginning if they weren't going to implement to all stages? It makes the rest look bad.
 
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Line_HTX

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I dunno... Despite Top 8 being on Ring of Destiny the entire time, I kind of liked it only because there was activity and things going on in the background as opposed to an empty ass room of The Grid. Not sure how they're going to implement transitions. It's not like they're going to have match point stage transitions like how Tekken 7 FR does it, right? The only stages I remember even having a little bit of transition, if you could count it that, were the Unknown Lab where it was abandoned and broken down and that one sfxt stage where you were fighting in front of a temple and it transistions into a nighttime stage IIRC.
 
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Parallax Scroll

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I found it a little odd that they were playing in an arena with a cheering crowd, on a stage about a fake arena with fake crowd cheering sounds after each round.
 
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Kumubou

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Line_HTX said:
I dunno... Despite Top 8 being on Ring of Destiny the entire time, I kind of liked it only because there was activity and things going on in the background as opposed to an empty ass room of The Grid. Not sure how they're going to implement transitions. It's not like they're going to have match point stage transitions like how Tekken 7 FR does it, right? The only stages I remember even having a little bit of transition, if you could count it that, were the Unknown Lab where it was abandoned and broken down and that one sfxt stage where you were fighting in front of a temple and it transistions into a nighttime stage IIRC.
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Most of the SFxT stages had transitions that were round by round -- they just were not animated. (I think there were short transition cutscenes between rounds, but I'm pretty sure players just skipped them.) It was kind of neat in that it gave some variation to the stages, but it could not have been kind to the budget.

Parallax Scroll said:
I found it a little odd that they were playing in an arena with a cheering crowd, on a stage about a fake arena with fake crowd cheering sounds after each round.
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You know how some game critics go on about ludonarrative dissonance? Would a game where a match in a fighting tournament in front cheering crowds in a sold-out arena being played at a fighting game tournament in front of cheering crowd in a sold-out arena be the ultimate in ludonarrative consonance?
 
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sixteen-bit

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Remy concept art from before he was goth Iori

Interestingly he was gonna have poison hands
http://game.capcom.com/cfn/sfv/column-130237.html

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