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Fighting Games Weekly |8/17-23| It was a little beta this time.
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SixMachine
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I think if they release characters with faster V-trigger activations you will be seeing more activations off hit confirms or if they make activations faster for certain characters already in. Like you can do Ryu's cr.Hp into v-trigger and combo out of it and Chun's back Hp into v-trigger works. In this case it's only on higher hitstun normals, so they want you to risk yourself to combo into activation unlike say the jab confims into a fadc combo in sf4.
Which reminds me, I really never tried counterpoking a poke with Chun's b.HP into v-trigger, i wonder if I could get something from that distance besides super.
Which reminds me, I really never tried counterpoking a poke with Chun's b.HP into v-trigger, i wonder if I could get something from that distance besides super.
call_kotaku
Member
If you take some screenshots side-by-side but with different lighting you can probably still make a big first page gaf thread out of it
It's rougher in the same places, which is more apparent when it's on your own screen and not via video.
Isn't the beta just using the E3 build?
notworksafe
Member
Yep, it's a pretty old build at this point.
SixMachine
Member
I heard they adjusted some lighting, some one took a screenshot of Gamescom Cammy and compared it and her face looks better because it added shading and doesn't look as flat. I don't know about other comparisons because I didn't really notice anything.
Dunno, but they need to crank up the AF a level or two, at least on the training stage. That blurry grid near the back wall drives me crazy.
I'm not worrying about much because we've seen much clearer progress or at least improvements over development thus far than you ever see for games of this caliber. Like adding assets into stages or tweaking lighting and models.
If it comes out as-is, I'll be fine with it, but that's not to say that some serious work needs to be done to make backgrounds cleaner. My guess is they're using some basic lighting solutions as they work on and wait to reveal dynamic lighting for stages.
If it comes out as-is, I'll be fine with it, but that's not to say that some serious work needs to be done to make backgrounds cleaner. My guess is they're using some basic lighting solutions as they work on and wait to reveal dynamic lighting for stages.
Lostconfused
Member
Dynamic lighting is kind of overkill for a 2D plane fighting game. There aren't that many dynamic light sources, not even all projectiles look like they should be casting a lot of light.
Really only two things bother me in terms of visuals, the shadows and Ryu's bright red armpit during his win pose. Man that just looks way off.
Edit: Wait, I was thinking of global illumination. Isn't dynamic lighting already in the game? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2v-8UdSwfQ The characters are casting shadows on themselves, the stage. Don't think those shadows are pre-baked.
Really only two things bother me in terms of visuals, the shadows and Ryu's bright red armpit during his win pose. Man that just looks way off.
Edit: Wait, I was thinking of global illumination. Isn't dynamic lighting already in the game? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2v-8UdSwfQ The characters are casting shadows on themselves, the stage. Don't think those shadows are pre-baked.
Yeah sorry I meant global illumination so they can do day/night.
Dynamic lighting has been in from the jump.
Lost Fragment
Obsessed with 4chan
GAF how do I fight Adon. I get bodied by any decent Adon no matter what character I use so I figure it's a matter of me being countered as a player more than my character being countered.
I hate characters that have shit that lets them get in your grill relatively safely.
I hate characters that have shit that lets them get in your grill relatively safely.
DryEyeRelief
Member
It seemed justifiable from the start because the most prevalent characters at the beginning of the game were Ryu, Sagat, Akuma and Boxer. The focus attack provided the lower tiered characters a way to mitigate their rush punch/fireball zoning. The game was new, people in general were worse at poking and more anti zoning than they are now, so there wasn't many questioning the idea of focus attack. I recall Mike Watson always having a problem with it, specifically with the concept of focus chicken...how people are put into a guess scenario based on simply whether they're going to release or not, and at what level. I myself, didn't fully realized how mindless focus fishing was until SFxT was released.
Yeah they do look like placeholders, and I hope they are
ZeroTheShadow
Member
People always say this shit & yet there is no video proof. Show me an in game side by side of the Gamescon build & the previous one that has any noticable difference. Vega trailer(which is from that build) looked exactly like everything that came before it.
why are you so butthurt/bitter about SFV lmao. it's noticeably weird.
speaking of which, did you ever get back to us after calling out toolassisted's frame date for being bullshit? funny you ask for proof of plain and apparent visual tweaks but you're happy to dismiss good info without any insight.
Dude is always bitter and grumpy, what a life to live.
For real, tone it the fuck down.
I kind of like the clean look of them. The UI is super slick and I really hope they don't change much about it. SFIV's menus and UI are more or less an eye sore for me, like it was trying to replicate that 90s edginess factor. I mean I love the 90s otherwise but I'm much happier when a game has a clean UI over one that's trying to be too stylized.
SixMachine
Member
Here is a change in the Cammy face. I'm on mobile so you have to click this link.
http://i.imgur.com/JqYHYFY.png
http://i.imgur.com/JqYHYFY.png
I hope so too, I don't like them at all right now.
I posted the exact same comparison....
Agreed, the new UI is quite nice.
SixMachine
Member
I'm on my phone so I didn't see it. Checking back you were unfortunately the last post of the previous page.
Anyways, Cammy looks nice now.
ShinMaruku
Member
Yes.
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
She needs more target combos then. Because yeah, a rushdown character without fast solid hit confirms is shit. That or her dives need to be better, hooligan being able to throw on standing and so on. You can't have a rushdown fast character in a SF game and not give them tools to suffocate. They just don't work ever.
K Cammy worked in Capcom vs SNK 2 from being able to run and short hop. But yeah SF is a series with dashes not runs LOL
your statement is false
She wore pants twice and looked better.
Speaking of outfits , I am very much interested in what the outfit outlook is going to be. And will they just strait bring back old ones
KidA Seven
Member
I felt like the graphics for the first 4 characters were amazing and the characters released after that were not as good. That could be due to the first 4 being worked on for a bit longer than the other characters. Cammy has gotten a slight upgrade so I think the other characters will receive similar upgrades by the time the game comes out.
I meant her character model.
I much prefer her outfit with pants as well.
I'd be fine with that. Her character right now doesn't seem to be very well thought out overall with the SF5 system. Her vskill being spin knuckle is stupid. Hooligan roll stuff isn't going to be very good since everybody now is getting away with stuff because they're not used to seeing it. Both of those things are going to be garbage tier not long after launch. She needs new stuff.
I wish they would have given her the counters from alpha 3 in vism. Her vskill should be a new move, not an existing one.
KidA Seven
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Agreed. The minimalistic hud is nice. The sf4 hud is trash.
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
How to make holligan good. The kick from it is now overhead and leads to combos no matter what *increase hitstun of it from this version of her divekick*, the throw can still be ducked. Congrats she now has a mix up that's unique to her and solid.
Indeed. I feel like the TGS build is gonna be the next sorta milestone build and the bases for the next beta. The final beta will be the near finished version the show at the Capcom cup I suppose.
ThatCrazyGuy
Member
I've said this before, Cammys outfit looks really dumb, lol.
Get some pants on or a tight fitting uniform on if you need sexy.
Get some pants on or a tight fitting uniform on if you need sexy.
From the first failed beta attempt to the post-patch stress test version last Friday there was definitely a noticeable downgrade. The final game will look amazing though, so I'm not at all concerned. They probably just patched to an earlier version for one reason or another.
notworksafe
Member
She already has a tight fitting uniform, duh
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
Nothing looks worse than Mu-12's outfit... yuck. At least Makoto has a solid visual reason for hers. Mu-12 just looks tacky as fuck.
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ThatCrazyGuy
Member
You know you want pants on her!
And that bison uniform alt is, what can i say. Trash, heh.
And that bison uniform alt is, what can i say. Trash, heh.
ZeroTheShadow
Member
Lol I'm like the most happy- go-lucky, nice, relaxed person ever. Shows how well you actually know me.
Lost Fragment
Obsessed with 4chan
Man I'm glad ZTS got unbanned.