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Fighting Games Weekly |8/17-23| It was a little beta this time.
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You're wrong there. Tekken 5 had a plethora of brand new animations, art, and mechanics over Tekken Tag Tournament 1 while retaining the Korean backdash cancelling movement system. That was a game where Tekken was still incredibly popular and everyone played it. It's just that ever since Tekken 5 we've been seeing the same stuff like what you see here:
Tekken never recycled art like that before and people want to see some evolution again like what happened with T1 -> T5.
To correct what you said earlier in the thread, I'm pretty sure the Tekken 5 series was the height of the popularity both on a casual and competitive level. Not Tag 1.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XiunXEXT7Qc
This is old, but Smug and Latif had a ft10 at EVO. Latif is still an amazing Viper even after not competing seriously for some time. IIRC, he also beat Smug last year in tournament. The Dudley x Viper MU looks like a big slug fest.
This is old, but Smug and Latif had a ft10 at EVO. Latif is still an amazing Viper even after not competing seriously for some time. IIRC, he also beat Smug last year in tournament. The Dudley x Viper MU looks like a big slug fest.
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
The thing with Tekken 5 was that it was a return to form and a huge improvement over the old systems it returned to. 6 was just an updated 5 with a weird juggle system and tag was basically 6 with tagging so more of the same but now with tag combos!
Cant say anything about 7 as I don't have much experience with it. Also I'm pretty sure 6 having completely shit netcode hurt the series pretty badly.
Cant say anything about 7 as I don't have much experience with it. Also I'm pretty sure 6 having completely shit netcode hurt the series pretty badly.
I see this sentiment a lot and I don't really get it. I mean, people who play Marvel are saying that the bound system is somehow arcane and hard to understand and that's really strange to me.
You have a combo, you can separate it into:
starter > bound > ender
I mean, combos were relatively short in Tekken 5 but the way 6 handles them makes them so that while the length increased, there's an obvious structure to them. I slightly prefer the way the combos worked before 6 but I don't really see where the confusion really comes from.
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
I never said it was confusing I said it was weird. There are a bunch of attacks in the game that have the bound property yet don't look like they do what bound sugest in the first place.
Bound is basically an attack that hits you so hard you bounce back up or with enough scoop to lift you up. Yet there are attacks that kick outwards with no downwards motions that do the action?
Plus a lot of people felt that the bound system made combos too long. Where outside some exceptions combos were typically shorter. They made combos longer for the sake of making them longer while doing similar damage. That's a turn off for casuals.
Tekken 5 was good because combos were typically a few solid hits with some jabs mixed in and so on you never see your character bounce around all crazy mid combo and it's visually easy to convey that you are being juggled. 6 and tag 2 look like the game is trying to pretend it's a 2d fighter.
The games are fun but there are lots of little reasons the series has fallen away from the casual base and why 7 is supposedly trying hard to bring back the old casual players.
Bound is basically an attack that hits you so hard you bounce back up or with enough scoop to lift you up. Yet there are attacks that kick outwards with no downwards motions that do the action?
Plus a lot of people felt that the bound system made combos too long. Where outside some exceptions combos were typically shorter. They made combos longer for the sake of making them longer while doing similar damage. That's a turn off for casuals.
Tekken 5 was good because combos were typically a few solid hits with some jabs mixed in and so on you never see your character bounce around all crazy mid combo and it's visually easy to convey that you are being juggled. 6 and tag 2 look like the game is trying to pretend it's a 2d fighter.
The games are fun but there are lots of little reasons the series has fallen away from the casual base and why 7 is supposedly trying hard to bring back the old casual players.
KidA Seven
Member
Taiwan Fighting Major brackets are out.
http://twfm.challonge.com/
Player list for Topanga B League online qualifiers.
http://topanga.co.jp/blog/archives/344
http://twfm.challonge.com/
Player list for Topanga B League online qualifiers.
http://topanga.co.jp/blog/archives/344
Gamerbee has the top seed. Good that he is participating.
MiniBossBattle
Member
You're wrong there. Tekken 5 had a plethora of brand new animations, art, and mechanics over Tekken Tag Tournament 1 while retaining the Korean backdash cancelling movement system. That was a game where Tekken was still incredibly popular and everyone played it. It's just that ever since Tekken 5 we've been seeing the same stuff like what you see here:
Tekken never recycled art like that before and people want to see some evolution again like what happened with T1 -> T5.
So its like Madden.
Anyone here getting Madden this week?
ZeroTheShadow
Member
So it looks like Q doesn't what he is talking about when it comes to Tekken. Wish I wasn't on mobile so I could post more.
hey oneida you know how you can hit kick then guard real quick to cancel the animation in vf? is that useful in any way? it seems like a cool way to get someone to flinch and block so you can grab them like an aoi cancel or something
i saw one dude do it . he follows up with guard break its pretty cool.
https://youtu.be/2xMpjVepTnc?t=2m37s
DryEyeRelief
Member
YHC mochi has to qualify online? I thought he was like guaranteed B leaguer since he's like the premier sim aside from darui
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
Be my guest to correct me on stuff. I'm well aware Tekken 5 had some long combos and I did say with some exceptions. I did play Bryan and Wang in it so they are some guilty ones. Lee is the worst feeling on the receiving end just cause punch punch punch even though they are not long
Anyways
Tekken 5
Tekken 6
KidA Seven
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They tend to only keep the players who finished in the top half so last year Sasaki, Ninomae, Nishikin, etc.. finished in the top 8. They like to invite different players each time. They actually explained some of their reasoning for their picks on the show. Mago finished in 14th out of 16 players, but because he has won 2 premier events was invited back in. They also invited Kawaguchi, Gachikun, and Matsuri due to their performances in Topanga Ranking Battles.
I'm a bit disappointed Wao isn't in Topanga League. He finished in 2nd in the 3rd Topanga A League and 4th in the Topanga World League. The only reason why he wasn't in last year's A League was due to him not deciding not to participate in it. I don't think he was all that into Ultra at the time, but now he's back playing a lot.
Santorou, Gachikun, and Bonchan will all be in Topanga A league watch lmao Sagat takeover.
Edit: any of you Blazblue guys got any starter combos for Valkenhayn. There's so many different combos on YouTube I don't really know what I should be working on. I just need a main bnb for midscreen and the corner and then an air to air confirm plz.
Edit: any of you Blazblue guys got any starter combos for Valkenhayn. There's so many different combos on YouTube I don't really know what I should be working on. I just need a main bnb for midscreen and the corner and then an air to air confirm plz.
If you want just a vid that shows all the combos here ya go. It's not notated but it just shows you what the BnBs look like.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_v3T8Qp7oI
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
Parallax Scroll
Banned
Bum can charge everyone twice now and nobody will leave.
Rolento is good, but beatable.
But he used to main Gouken. Who is mid tier.
Basically, his name is a lie.
shaowebb
Member
I'll check it out because I've been eyeing Blazblue but lol I thought this would be an image of you with your car
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
I can't drive LOL
notworksafe
Member
In the Southwest it was definitely Tag
Not cool man!How much is the fetus tax tonight?
Looks packed good to see.
There was almost a fight over that last time.
KidA Seven
Member
So Combofiend is in Osaka, Japan right now. He was going up against players like Haitani at the Monte arcade. He regularly goes to Japan to consult with Capcom Japan right?
Shouta
Member
You're kidding me right?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCWVabhdTSE
Old step tech from the other games but movement in VF5FS is just as good for the most part. It's way easier for most people to be able to use after learning how to do it.
Parallax Scroll
Banned
It was all a big misunderstanding between two drunk people anyway. Joe's wife was never charged for her fetus.
Just use her A buttons and the multihits and keep them blocking. She actually has really annoying pressure, she can just make you block stuff. It's not threatening at all though.
https://twitter.com/goldencen/status/634253711464923136
Henry Cen is not leaving Next Level until he can be bought out of his share of the arcade. The arcade won't be closed until then.
Henry Cen is not leaving Next Level until he can be bought out of his share of the arcade. The arcade won't be closed until then.
shaowebb
Member
Yeah, Q was saying in the stream she's frametrappy. Does she have any dive tools that go straight down? I saw a good divekick angled dash attack in the air and some huge hitboxes on her air tools. Maybe you can play air footsies if she has enough angled to choose with her stuff to mess people up and go for crossups...that is if her air stuff is safe on block.
Nah, all her air stuff is whack. j.C is an okay button but I mean it doesn't do well enough vs other things you'd expect to see. She just like doesn't really do anything special.
his life must be fucking sweet as fuck right now (surely stressful as well). it's awesome where he ended up and he's fucking delivering with the way SFV is shaping up
the whole situation sucks but shoutouts to Henry. the fact that Next Level even came to be in the first place is kind of amazing tbh
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
Until BBCF where she sounds awesome
ZeroTheShadow
Member
Nothing in that video disproves what I said. I'm well aware there has been movement tech in VF but it pales in comparison to Tekken in every way. I am talking about the basic movement options available to all characters as well. If I were to make a video covering every movement technique ever in Tekken from hiashita, to haha the video would be like 10 minutes long.
You can also see in that video my earlier point about the lack of verticle movement in VF compared to Tekken.
Please forgive me for the lack of posts explaining my thoughts but I'm trapped on mobile for the time being & even this post tool forever & was a pain to write.
Parallax Scroll
Banned
We in 2015 and people still a lot of the time decide not to snap in Vergil haha.
Bum said 40 people in the house tonight. :O That is a really awesome turn out. Good to hear Yipes on the mic as well. <3
Try: http://www.dustloop.com/forums/index.php?/forums/topic/10429-arcana-heart-skype-chat/
And: irc.mizuumi.net #examu (link)
Both have active users.
http://www.redbull.com/us/en/esports/stories/1331742539800/ceotaku-the-anime-fgc-s-big-break
Redbull did an article on ceotaku
Redbull did an article on ceotaku