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[FluxWaveZ]

Shadows getting really buffed is great. They're probably actually going to be used now, aside from Shadow Mitsuru 90-100% combo shenanigans.

Edit: Wonder if P4U2 ver. 1.1 will be coming with the new characters on April 25, or if it's just the balance updates. There's at least the new mode that will go along with it, which they haven't detailed yet.

 

[Shouta]

That's such a weird decision not to lengthen it just a little bit, not really in terms of a tuning issue, but in terms of a "this is actively obnoxious" issue.

I dunno, T.hawk needs a pressure tool. Unlike Gief or Hakan, he doesn't have a viable one in AE2012. Spire can't be FADC'd and is way too punishable because of how slow it is. Dive is too risky and punishable. It basically leaves him with EX Spire which he can only use when he has meter and that had issues in AE as well as an option for getting in.

Spire is still -7 on block in Ultra and only -2 on hit so it's going to be punishable still. It gives something T.hawk can use for getting around, something he was lacking in every iteration up until this point.

 

[Deckard Cain]

Damn Rolento looks like pure booty in Ultra. What does he even do?

 

[vocab]

Damn Rolento looks like pure booty in Ultra. What does he even do?

He's really not that much different than sfxt. He will be upper mid tier at best.

 

[kirblar]

Damn Rolento looks like pure booty in Ultra. What does he even do?

His mobility options are pretty ridiculous (roll is really annoying) and so his damage is pretty booty in order to compensate for it.

 

[toddhunter]

Damn Rolento looks like pure booty in Ultra. What does he even do?

Moves all over the screen easily, doing very little damage but hitting his ultra every round.

Spire is still -7 on block in Ultra and only -2 on hit so it's going to be punishable still. It gives something T.hawk can use for getting around, something he was lacking in every iteration up until this point.

T.Hawk is certainly being made to look better than Hugo at this point. I'm looking forward to seeing what, if anything, a good Hugo can do (beyond hit his super)

 

[Anne]

Not too familiar with Persona; why is it disappointing for the most part?

Whenever I post tomorrow remind me. I'm insanely tired and there's actually a lot to talk about. Short version: The games need a lot more tweaks to even touch on the main concerns from the serious P4U players. I'm hoping this is just a short preview list of notable changes or they're waiting on the new/console/whatever characters to do a more serious overhaul.

 

[Deckard Cain]

Moves all over the screen easily, doing very little damage but hitting his ultra every

Looks more like neutral jumps and rolls around, then does slow telegraphed follow ups, gets KD or jumped in on cause his AAs suck, struggles with crap wake up options & then proceeds to get his ass hammered.

 

[Marz]

Looks more like neutral jumps and rolls around, then does slow telegraphed follow ups, gets KD or jumped in on cause his AAs suck, struggles with crap wake up options & then proceeds to get his ass hammered.

Yea man that day 1 Rolento play is gonna be totally optimized

 

[call_kotaku]

Yea man that day 1 Rolento play is gonna be totally optimized

People had more than a year to practice by playing SFxT kappa

 

[vocab]

Yea man that day 1 Rolento play is gonna be totally optimized

Yup, Rolento has a tricky neutral game that will give a lot of the cast problems. I'm more concerned about wakeup. I guess dwu will help I guess. At least he has roll and air raid.

 

[kirblar]

Yup, Rolento has a tricky neutral game that will give a lot of the cast problems. I'm more concerned about wakeup. I guess dwu will help I guess. At least he has roll and air raid.

EX roll is a get out of jail free card, right?

 

[vocab]

EX roll is a get out of jail free card, right?

It should be. I have not seen how good ex roll is.

 

[Passive Assassin]

good luck anyone who's entering NCR. got that 10 am brackets for AE. RIP

 

[SimSimIV]

They nerfed Hugo from the previous build it seems. He could anti air consistently with st.Hp because of armor in the previous build, now the armor seems very limited.

Thawk looks good now.. Too good?

Alioune ‏@Alioune85 11m
So Day +1, T Hawk too good according to japanese players. @kazunoko0215 learning Sagat to counterpick. Get your fireballs ready cc

Alioune ‏@Alioune85 8m
Can't believe they gave THawk the gun

Also Dhalsim seems just as bad as before. But then again.. I have only seen him used once (During hours of gameplay in different arcades) and it was against a Cammy. Nearly souble perfect, so didn't tell me much

 

[Shouta]

Thawk is gonna be scary. I've been saying that for awhile lol. L spire probably gonna get needed to 13-15d startup.

 

[Professor Beef]

The Sagat match is so fun as T.Hawk, too. Bring them on, I say.

 

[Rhapsody]

Thawk is gonna be scary. I've been saying that for awhile lol. L spire probably gonna get needed to 13-15d startup.

A sign of things to come https://twitter.com/uryoryon/status/457069845574455296

うりょ ‏@uryoryon

CPUのホークに普通に負けた

Even CPU T. Hawk's too strong lol

 

[kirblar]

Thawk is gonna be scary. I've been saying that for awhile lol. L spire probably gonna get needed to 13-15d startup.

If only to stop our ears from bleeding.

I think they may have implemented the "only on ground" armor for Hugo, thankfully. But will need someone to put in lab time on him to see what exactly is going on.

 

[Hitokage]

Spire is still -7 on block in Ultra and only -2 on hit so it's going to be punishable still. It gives something T.hawk can use for getting around, something he was lacking in every iteration up until this point.

Keep in mind that Spire frame data is written for hitting on the first active frame. Usually this is not the case due to forward movement!

 

[kirblar]

Keep in mind that Spire frame data is written for hitting on the first active frame. Usually this is not the case due to forward movement!

How many active frames does it have?

 

[Shouta]

A sign of things to come https://twitter.com/uryoryon/status/457069845574455296


Even CPU T. Hawk's too strong lol

He wanted the CPU to get lowered, lol.

https://twitter.com/uryoryon/status/457023090954735616

Here's Uryo's mentions on Viper.

- Reach on her cr.mk is longer now making her cr.hp, cr.hp, cr.mk, mp Thunder Knuckle doable on a few more characters.
- Red Focus Attack will reach if you hit lp or mp Thunder Knuckle for the most part.
- U2 will connect using her mediums (via superjump, I guess), so you can counterhit with the tip of her c.mk into an instant U2. It gets me a bit hyped.

not sure about last one since it's a bit late for me and my translating is a bit wonky right now >_> Still not sure though. Viper players can correct me.

Keep in mind that Spire frame data is written for hitting on the first active frame. Usually this is not the case due to forward movement!

I think Alioune said it was +6 on Block at max range after I mentioned but that's really a small distance because l spire barely moves anywhere.

How many active frames does it have?

9 active frames, I think? It can trade with a lot of things to or get beat though. It's a hilarious anti-air when used right.

 

[sf2fanatic]

The Sagat match is so fun as T.Hawk, too. Bring them on, I say.

I hope so too. I love using Hawk when I go visit the arcades

 

[SimSimIV]

How many active frames does it have?

It has 9 active frames:/

Also I think I saw Hugo armor with st.hp while the opponent was airborn, but the window of armor seems really small

 

[SimSimIV]

He wanted the CPU to get lowered, lol.

https://twitter.com/uryoryon/status/457023090954735616

Here's Uryo's mentions on Viper.

- Reach on her cr.mk is longer now making her cr.hp, cr.hp, cr.mk, mp Thunder Knuckle doable on a few more characters.
- Red Focus Attack will reach if you hit lp or mp Thunder Knuckle for the most part.
- U2 will hit from her mediums, so you can counterhit with the tip of her mk into an instant U2. It gets me a bit hyped.

not sure about last one since it's a bit late for me and my translating is a bit wonky right now >_>



I think Alioune saidit was +6 on Block at max range after I mentioned but that's really a small distance because l spire barely moves anywhere.



9 active frames, I think? It can trade with a lot of things to or get beat though. It's a hilarious anti-air when used right.

Since they removed the height restriction for ultra 2, I imagine what he is saying is that you can buffer c.mk in to super jump at max range, and do instant air ultra 2 if it hits.

 

[iori9999]

T.Hawk is going to be good? YES!!!!

 

[Shouta]

It has 9 active frames:/

Also I think I saw Hugo armor with st.hp while the opponent was airborn, but the window of armor seems really small

Yeah, it's 9. Just checked it again. The hurtbox on it actually extends in front of the hitbox though. At least, according to old data. It makes it kind of icky to use straight forward with someone that has good buttons/reactions. Ironically, its vertical hitbox/hurtbox line up making it a decent anti-air as a result.

Green Line = Hurtbox, Red area = Hitbox.

Since they removed the height restriction for ultra 2, I imagine what he is saying is that you can buffer c.mk in to super jump at max range, and do instant air ultra 2 if it hits.

Makes sense. I'll update it.

 

[kirblar]

Is Hugo's Super the only move he has with varied invincibilities on it, depending on button, or does one of his EXes work like that as well?

 

[iori9999]

So they improved Hawk's frames and for the most part Makoto is buffed(when she was already good), even though she got some nerfs after the initial changes.. I can't be more happier tbh..

 

[Thomasorus]

Ken Bogard is restreaming some USF4 here : http://www.twitch.tv/kenb0gard

 

[Kadey]

Beef must use NeoGAF if he appears on stream.

 

[OceanBlue]

Ken Bogard is restreaming some USF4 here : http://www.twitch.tv/kenb0gard

Neat. Apparently the Sagat is Super Santarou Man.

 

[Westlo]

Doesn't Blanka like own T.Hawks soul in this game.....?

Anyway that acho is up!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZprUrgithsk&list=UUCfnriDcUslGMUMX4Ctkyjg

And the first match has a 6k bp ibuki, really wanted to see what she was like in this (hopefully 1 player/character doesn't dominate these 90 mins like the first footage Acho had for AE and Xrd lol)

Edit - Ibuki player already on an 8 match win streak at the start lol, 7 mins in the clip and it's now @ 10, Still people getting hit by kunai's after neckbreaker even using DWU.

 

[CrazyTank940]

Looks like there is UMVC3 Easter Egg in PL Vs PW game: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHuje5YdjVo

hahaha

Full P4U2 v1.1 changelist:

http://pastebin.com/eb7aQRds

If this is the actual full set of changes it's kind of disappointing.

Oh hey, Yu's barely nerfed again :S

Spoiler

given who I use I don't have much room to talk on the concept of "fair" >_>

well at least being able to cancel the ending part of Bufula into any Droit should be fun to test out, I'm assuming the whole "droit through Bufula = faster droit + freeze on contact" bit is still in.

Shadows getting really buffed is great. They're probably actually going to be used now, aside from Shadow Mitsuru 90-100% combo shenanigans.

Edit: Wonder if P4U2 ver. 1.1 will be coming with the new characters on April 25, or if it's just the balance updates. There's at least the new mode that will go along with it, which they haven't detailed yet.

Fear the Mabufudyne, muahahaha

Spoiler

I should get better with using that move in general, even if I doubt I'll use Shadow Mitsuru much

Honestly I'm more curious about the new mode, mainly since we don't quite know what it is yet. Unlike how it's pretty much set in stone that Ken and Rise are joining (pulled Best Buy listing and that tweet Ken's VA made). I'm hoping it's something like a survival mode.

 

[Hitokage]

Wow, that Hugo just got manhandled by Guile. lol

Full P4U2 v1.1 changelist:

http://pastebin.com/eb7aQRds

If this is the actual full set of changes it's kind of disappointing.

ArcSys balancing.

 

[Infinite]

I just seen Guile's Ultra 1 flat out lose to Hugo's body splash and Gouken's j.mk.

 

[Horseress]

Finally, some Ultra footage I can get behind!

Machi (Rolento) vs Kindevu (T.Hawk): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZLT79s9Y_w&feature=youtu.be

That lk spire speed is ridiculous and the extra distance on the EX one is awesome.

Going to EVO this year right? It's your time, Shouta!

Doesn't Blanka like own T.Hawks soul in this game.....?

Anyway that acho is up!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZprUrgithsk&list=UUCfnriDcUslGMUMX4Ctkyjg

Nice, was waiting for that, thank you based a-cho

 

[MechaX]

The biggest thing I'm curious about with P4U2 is whether or not they can salvage Liz.

 

[Pics_nao]

Looks like there is UMVC3 Easter Egg in PL Vs PW game: [/QUOTE] [IMG]http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m8abuigtYK1rsh9mv.gif[/IMG]

 

[Westlo]

Ken Bogard is restreaming some USF4 here : http://www.twitch.tv/kenb0gard

Why is there a Japanese Sagat vs an English Sagat? Did they enable people to change language used for voices based on their cards/profile? Does this mean it's like Blazblue for console where you get to hear the voices of whatever your opponent uses. Does this mean I'll have to hear countless "Try this on for size!!" from the online Ken army in Ultra?

 

[Karsticles]

The biggest thing I'm curious about with P4U2 is whether or not they can salvage Liz.

This 100% determines whether I buy the game. That changelog looks underwhelming.

 

[OceanBlue]

Did they enable people to change language used for voices based on their cards/profile?

Yeah, but I don't think it's new.

 

[Westlo]

Yeah, but I don't think it's new.

Ah, so won't be something for console than.

 

[Huw_Dawson]

Rolento is really good but you will cry if you get knocked down in the corner. He has no wakeup there at all afaik.

 

[Azure J]

Looks like there is UMVC3 Easter Egg in PL Vs PW game: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHuje5YdjVo

Too good. :lol

 

[Skilotonn]

Japanese Marvel courtesy of BlackEye, featuring Nemo, Frieda and more:

http://www.twitch.tv/gostunv

 

[sixteen-bit]

I want to play Poison when this comes out in June or whatever. Hope she's good.

 

[Coda]

I want to play Poison when this comes out in June or whatever. Hope she's good.

I gave her a whirl at PAX East. She's goody.

 

[RS4-]

Capcom just doesn't know how to balance grapplers.

 

[CountBlack]

Damn so Thawk gets buffed from bottom 3 into too good status

And deejay gets buffed from bottom 3 into bottom 3 status. gg