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Fighting Games Weekly | April 22-28 | Game of Throws - A Song of Salt and Fire(balls)

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enzo_gt

tagged by Blackace
ITT: Amateurs.

I've been banned 4 times (I think). GET ON MY LEVEL.
- Technically trolling Killzone 3 Thread
- Christina Millian nudes thread (WHICH WAS BULLSHIT AND INJUST AND I AM STILL SALTY ABOUT TO THIS DAY)
- MvC3 release for scans
- UMvC3 release for scans

Every one of them was for 2 weeks. All generally warranted for being a dumb fuck
except the Christina Millian thread because people have done worse and gotten away with it

Also will update the OP with all those events when I regain energy from my last final.
 
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darkblade77

Member
QisTopTier said:
Everyone was saying Taokaka wasn't that good in CS1, Prototype and I were both saying she was super fucking good.

Taokaka wins SBO lol

Actually something simular happened with GGslash and ky I saw the change list and as a Ky main straight up said Ky is far and away the best character now and has no downsides at all.

Slash comes out gets more play bam Best character more fucked up than Reload eddie *and a million times easier to use*
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Haha, I remember Tao sneaking up on tiers out of nowhere. And then the Tao player that won SBO switched to Mak because he had been logging hours with her on console... enter CS2, lol.

Anyway, if you're right I hope the scene doesn't figure it out until...say, the next BB game has shipped. (Or that Arcsys figures out how to tone characters down without making them boring)
 
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Dahbomb

Member
Actually I just did it for AE as well.

Didn't do for the other games mostly because I don't know their players. If someone wants to add to this list feel free to do so:



Infiltration
Filipino Champ
LXG Hypnawtik
Snake Tits
MCZ Xian
Haibing
Honzo Gonzo
AGE|Knives
CJShowstopper
EG Momochi
LLND
KaneBlueRiver
Killer Kai
Magus1234
Apologyman
JChensor
Buktooth
Y2Jay
Ranmasama
Mike Infinite
Falcomist
GAF Stersauce
EG Floe
EM Taekua
XsK Samurai
LXG Helix
EG Justin Wong
GC Yoshi
EG PR Rog
Jint
Fubarduck
Alex Valle
Neo
CrispyTacos
OmgitzAndre
MoTempest
X Ray
Manic
Nerses
UVG Noel Brown
LXG Infrit
Hi I am Nasty
CCG|ChiRithy
SexyBeast
Drew Grimey
Royal Flush
KBeast
Noah the Prodigy
AGE|FlashMetroid,
EG Ricky Ortiz
Wentinel,
AGE| ChrisG
Pedro
Quasimodo
LPN
Laugh
Crizzle
Hsien Chang
Lamerboi
CCG Air
AGE| Vangief
Mike Ross
JaycetheAce
AGE|SnakeEyes
 
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QisTopTier

XisBannedTier
darkblade77 said:
Haha, I remember Tao sneaking up on tiers out of nowhere. And then the Tao player that won SBO switched to Mak because he had been logging hours with her on console... enter CS2, lol.

Anyway, if you're right I hope the scene doesn't figure it out until...say, the next BB game has shipped. (Or that Arcsys figures out how to tone characters down without making them boring)
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Arcsys changes are random, They made bang one of the best characters in CS1 and at the same time made him boring :lol
 
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Azure J

Member
enzo_gt said:
ITT: Amateurs.

I've been banned 4 times (I think). GET ON MY LEVEL.
- Technically trolling Killzone 3 Thread
- Christina Millian nudes thread (WHICH WAS BULLSHIT AND INJUST AND I AM STILL SALTY ABOUT TO THIS DAY)
- MvC3 release for scans
- UMvC3 release for scans

Every one of them was for 2 weeks. All generally warranted for being a dumb fuck
except the Christina Millian thread because people have done worse and gotten away with it
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Thank God there's no patch coming, amirite?

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CurlyW

Member
A bit late, but I feel like I need to comment on the NCR and Tekken thing.

If you think that NCR's schedule with Tekken Tag 2 on Friday led to the Tekken not supporting NCR, you've got your cause and effect mixed up. Registration for NCR had been open since mid-February. Kineda didn't post a schedule (and a preliminary, non-stream one at that) until April 3rd. He based the schedule around the number of sign-ups for each game, and the fact is that at that point when he made the schedule, Tekken had hardly any sign-ups. (We know fewer than 20.) Tekken players had a month and a half to sign up for NCR, as did MK players, and members of any other community that feels shafted by the schedule. And again, it was a preliminary schedule, and had a wave of Tekken players suddenly entered in the last couple weeks, I can guarantee that the schedule would change and they'd end up with a Sunday finals. As it stands they have 22 entrants and finals on Saturday morning, as it should be for any game with only 22 entrants.

It's also really silly of them to blame Divekick for their problems. First, Divekick has more entrants. Second, Divekick ALSO has pools on Friday and finals on Saturday morning, just like Tekken. It's just that because Divekick has more competitors, it gets to have finals a little later.

Lastly, coming up with a schedule for an event, especially a stream schedule, is hard as fuck. I know because I just helped make the preliminary schedule for UFGT and it took hours. We have to get 15 games onto 2 streams in only 36 hours, subtracting time for exhibitions. We have to balance showing as much of the popular games as we can while also getting every other game on stream at least once so the communities for those games can be at least slightly satisfied. And that's not even taking into account other constraints like systems, space, and possible overlaps (EDIT: also local scene and sponsors). In the end, we came up with something that I think works, though Keits and I will almost certainly make changes to it as we get closer to the event. The reason it works is that some games have finals on Saturday, and one of them is Tekken Tag 2 because we have so few entrants for it at the moment. The UFGT thread on Tekken Zaibatsu (link) should give a good indication of the level of interest UFGT is currently receiving from the greater Tekken community so far. (That thread was started in January by the way.)

Sadly, a big reason for the low number of TTT2 entrants at UFGT is that a lot of Tekken players in Chicago and Wisconsin have dropped the game, mostly due to either real life or League of Legends. It sucks, because I really like watching the game and we have some talented players here, including an actual Korean! But if Tekken players don't come, then we have to shift focus to the communities that are supporting the tournament. It's just how it goes.

The exception is SFxT, which despite high turnouts should only ever be on stream at 9am on Saturdays.
 
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Parallax Scroll

Banned
CurlyW said:
Sadly, a big reason for the low number of TTT2 entrants at UFGT is that a lot of Tekken players in Chicago and Wisconsin have dropped the game, mostly due to either real life or League of Legends.
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This makes sense since Tekken players are busy with families and careers due to their unique skills.
 
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kirblar

Member
CurlyW said:
A bit late, but I feel like I need to comment on the NCR and Tekken thing.

If you think that NCR's schedule with Tekken Tag 2 on Friday led to the Tekken not supporting NCR, you've got your cause and effect mixed up. Registration for NCR had been open since mid-February. Kineda didn't post a schedule (and a preliminary, non-stream one at that) until April 3rd. He based the schedule around the number of sign-ups for each game, and the fact is that at that point when he made the schedule, Tekken had hardly any sign-ups. (We know fewer than 20.) Tekken players had a month and a half to sign up for NCR, as did MK players, and members of any other community that feels shafted by the schedule. And again, it was a preliminary schedule, and had a wave of Tekken players suddenly entered in the last couple weeks, I can guarantee that the schedule would change and they'd end up with a Sunday finals. As it stands they have 22 entrants and finals on Saturday morning, as it should be for any game with only 22 entrants.

It's also really silly of them to blame Divekick for their problems. First, Divekick has more entrants. Second, Divekick ALSO has pools on Friday and finals on Saturday morning, just like Tekken. It's just that because Divekick has more competitors, it gets to have finals a little later. Tekken players may say

Lastly, coming up with a schedule for an event, especially a stream schedule, is hard as fuck. I know because I just helped make the preliminary schedule for UFGT and it took hours. We have to get 15 games onto 2 streams in only 36 hours, subtracting time for exhibitions. We have to balance showing as much of the popular games as we can while also getting every other game on stream at least once so the communities for those games can be at least slightly satisfied. And that's not even taking into account other constraints like systems, space, and possible overlaps. In the end, we came up with something that I think works, though Keits and I will almost certainly make changes to it as we get closer to the event. The reason it works is that some games have finals on Saturday, and one of them is Tekken Tag 2 because we have so few entrants for it at the moment. The UFGT thread on Tekken Zaibatsu (link) should give a good indication of the level of interest UFGT is currently receiving from the greater Tekken community so far. (That thread was started in January by the way.)

Sadly, a big reason for the low number of TTT2 entrants at UFGT is that a lot of Tekken players in Chicago and Wisconsin have dropped the game, mostly due to either real life or League of Legends. It sucks, because I really like watching the game and we have some talented players here, including an actual Korean! But if Tekken players don't come, then we have to shift focus to the communities that are supporting the tournament. It's just how it goes.

The exception is SFxT, which despite high turnouts should only ever be on stream at 9am on Saturdays.
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I'm presuming you're involved with UFGT, not NCR?

Also, your opinion on SFxT is bad and you should feel bad.
 
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CurlyW

Member
I'm involved with UFGT, but I'm sure that NCR is very similar in terms of how it determines the schedule. I think the same can be said of most big tournaments.

The purpose of the last line of my post is to completely invalidate the rest of my opinion.

Edit: opinions.
 
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toddhunter

Member
CurlyW said:
I'm involved with UFGT, but I'm sure that NCR is very similar in terms of how it determines the schedule. I think the same can be said of most big tournaments.

The purpose of the last line of my post is to completely invalidate the rest of my opinion.

Edit: opinions.
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Thanks for the post, nice insights into NcR.
 
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Sayah

Member
CurlyW said:
A bit late, but I feel like I need to comment on the NCR and Tekken thing.

If you think that NCR's schedule with Tekken Tag 2 on Friday led to the Tekken not supporting NCR, you've got your cause and effect mixed up. Registration for NCR had been open since mid-February. Kineda didn't post a schedule (and a preliminary, non-stream one at that) until April 3rd. He based the schedule around the number of sign-ups for each game, and the fact is that at that point when he made the schedule, Tekken had hardly any sign-ups. (We know fewer than 20.) Tekken players had a month and a half to sign up for NCR, as did MK players, and members of any other community that feels shafted by the schedule. And again, it was a preliminary schedule, and had a wave of Tekken players suddenly entered in the last couple weeks, I can guarantee that the schedule would change and they'd end up with a Sunday finals. As it stands they have 22 entrants and finals on Saturday morning, as it should be for any game with only 22 entrants.

It's also really silly of them to blame Divekick for their problems. First, Divekick has more entrants. Second, Divekick ALSO has pools on Friday and finals on Saturday morning, just like Tekken. It's just that because Divekick has more competitors, it gets to have finals a little later.

Lastly, coming up with a schedule for an event, especially a stream schedule, is hard as fuck. I know because I just helped make the preliminary schedule for UFGT and it took hours. We have to get 15 games onto 2 streams in only 36 hours, subtracting time for exhibitions. We have to balance showing as much of the popular games as we can while also getting every other game on stream at least once so the communities for those games can be at least slightly satisfied. And that's not even taking into account other constraints like systems, space, and possible overlaps (EDIT: also local scene and sponsors). In the end, we came up with something that I think works, though Keits and I will almost certainly make changes to it as we get closer to the event. The reason it works is that some games have finals on Saturday, and one of them is Tekken Tag 2 because we have so few entrants for it at the moment. The UFGT thread on Tekken Zaibatsu (link) should give a good indication of the level of interest UFGT is currently receiving from the greater Tekken community so far. (That thread was started in January by the way.)

Sadly, a big reason for the low number of TTT2 entrants at UFGT is that a lot of Tekken players in Chicago and Wisconsin have dropped the game, mostly due to either real life or League of Legends. It sucks, because I really like watching the game and we have some talented players here, including an actual Korean! But if Tekken players don't come, then we have to shift focus to the communities that are supporting the tournament. It's just how it goes.

The exception is SFxT, which despite high turnouts should only ever be on stream at 9am on Saturdays.
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This is a good explanatory post but there are some things that need to still be clarified.

1. Why is there a necessity for a 3-day tournament in the first place? You are saying you have to stream a lot of stuff in a limited amount of time but the number of entrants in the tournament suggest that this could more easily be a 2-day tourney to accommodate everyone.

2. Why did you expect people to register for a tournament before knowing the actual schedule? Or is that common? A person might have a wedding or family vacation scheduled or maybe has school and finals or other things to worry about in the future. If I was attending a tournament, I would want to know exactly what day and what time my game is running before I pay up. Or otherwise, I may already have stuff scheduled and may not be able to make it as is the case with ncr right now.

Or maybe like most other people, I'm just waiting to register until the end and many others like to just register on the day of the tourney.

3. How much skill does divekick require? I'm ignorant on the matter and would really like to know. Is it like a mini-game -game sort of like Tekken ball which anyone can just pick up and play because if so, there's your answer to why it has more entrants. And I can see why people would be upset that something like that was getting finals streamed over a high-end fighting game. No disrespect intended to divekick fanbase.

4. Tekken Zaibatsu is hardly active like it used to be. World Tekken Federation forums had picked up some steam for a while but even they're sort of dead now. That's not to say you can't post stuff there but don't expect a lot of responses. A better way to publicize your tournament (I would think) would be to send tweets to Harada and Murray and further request them to put the tournament information on the Tekken facebook page. If you succeed which you probably should, you'll more easily reach the over 3 million people that are following the Tekken facebook page.

Plus, even the professional Tekken players have facebook groups and stuff. Reach out to them.

5. SFIV and UMvC3 will (as I remember reading) have top 16 on sunday streamed. But you have condensed the top 8 for other games to Saturday morning? I will also say I"m sort of detached from this scenario since I'm not a heavy spectator. But if I was really heavily into spectating Tekken, KoF, etc., I would be upset with the schedule too. Who wants to get up at 10 a.m. to watch a stream? Unless you know someone that's attending there and want to see them perform, there's no reason. You can just catch the archives later on.
 
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SolarPowered

Member
Speaking of bans... everyone should tread lightly in gaming side. It's going to be a scary place outside of off topic, community and specialist threads like this one. I'm scared of Nintendo threads now.
 
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Huw_Dawson

Member
SolarPowered said:
Speaking of bans... everyone should tread lightly in gaming side. It's going to be a scary place outside of off topic, community and specialist threads like this one. I'm scared of Nintendo threads now.
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I'm a PC gamer, I'll be fine. This console stuff is all "pshh". Anyone up for a game of Europa Universalis 3? I'll be the Byzantines.

I have actually seriously being playing EU3 rather than Injustice. I have a History degree. That game is cocaine to me.
 
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kirblar

Member
If you have 22 entrants, what's the point of streaming at all? Just run it as a small, off-camera tournament. (That's not on Friday.)

Fridays are absolutely miserable for most people due to the logistical difficulties associated with travel. (There's an MTG tournament series that keeps getting bad #s for its large events partially because they're 3-day tournaments.)
 
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Dahbomb

Member
SolarPowered said:
Speaking of bans... everyone should tread lightly in gaming side. It's going to be a scary place outside of off topic, community and specialist threads like this one. I'm scared of Nintendo threads now.
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Off topics get a lot of bans as well. Gaming forum will get scary for sure but oh so fun. There will be meltdowns.

Surprised to see no serious meltdowns over Nintendo having no conference at E3.
 
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A Pretty Panda

fuckin' called it, man
I only got banned once and it was for giving good advice.

Gaming side is a minefield.

Even though my ban was from the OT. I still want to know who banned me exactly.
 
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SolarPowered

Member
Dahbomb said:
Off topics get a lot of bans as well. Gaming forum will get scary for sure but oh so fun. There will be meltdowns.

Surprised to see no serious meltdowns over Nintendo having no conference at E3.
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Honestly, off topic scares me far more than gaming side, but that just shows how scary it's going to be around here for the next six months.
kirblar said:
If you have 22 entrants, what's the point of streaming at all? Just run it as a small, off-camera tournament.
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Yeah, they're pretty lucky they're even getting stream time with such small numbers. I used to get all up in arms about this for BB and SG, but it's bad news if these are the best numbers they can get even though the schedule wasn't set in stone until the very last minute(curly said they had things set so Tekken could be moved to Sunday even two weeks before the event?).
 
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kirblar

Member
Dahbomb said:
Off topics get a lot of bans as well. Gaming forum will get scary for sure but oh so fun. There will be meltdowns.

Surprised to see no serious meltdowns over Nintendo having no conference at E3.
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Nintendo's made it clear their strategy was to avoid the E3 news glut and hold their own spotlight events/announcments to capture the media's undivided attention, so its not surprising.
 
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Cosmo Clock 21

Banned
SolarPowered said:
Speaking of bans... everyone should tread lightly in gaming side. It's going to be a scary place outside of off topic, community and specialist threads like this one. I'm scared of Nintendo threads now.
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Come on, you know in your heart that the most fun you can have on NeoGAF is toeing the line further and further and seeing what you can get away with...
 
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Azure J

Member
SolarPowered said:
Speaking of bans... everyone should tread lightly in gaming side. It's going to be a scary place outside of off topic, community and specialist threads like this one. I'm scared of Nintendo threads now.
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You already know how I've gone full lurk mode in Nintendo related threads where I once was fairly vocal.
 
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Dahbomb

Member
kirblar said:
Nintendo's made it clear their strategy was to avoid the E3 news glut and hold their own spotlight events/announcments to capture the media's undivided attention, so its not surprising.
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Isn't that what the Nintendo Direct is for? Seems like a weird decision to me when E3 is where you get mainstream coverage. That's how the Wii took off as well, it had a good E3 showing and people liked what they saw and played. The people who watch these Nintendo Direct videos are the core gamers usually people who already have the Wii U.

Could be a good decision in the long run because I don't think they will have stuff that will be able to compete with PS4 and Next Xbox at E3. Its just sad to see them bow out of the hype train like that.
 
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kirblar

Member
Dahbomb said:
Isn't that what the Nintendo Direct is for? Seems like a weird decision to me when E3 is where you get mainstream coverage. That's how the Wii took off as well, it had a good E3 showing and people liked what they saw and played. The people who watch these Nintendo Direct videos are the core gamers usually people who already have the Wii U.

Could be a good decision in the long run because I don't think they will have stuff that will be able to compete with PS4 and Next Xbox at E3. Its just sad to see them bow out of the hype train like that.
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They'll be drowned out and they know it. It's a good move.
 
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