There was a look or something a few months ago on one of the Ultrachen episodes which people thought hinted at them not liking each other, but David said himself here that this wasn't the case (and all behavior we've seen supports that).
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Fighting Games Weekly | Jan 13-19 | Handsome fighters never lose majors
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There was a look or something a few months ago on one of the Ultrachen episodes which people thought hinted at them not liking each other, but David said himself here that this wasn't the case (and all behavior we've seen supports that).
Coach Steve is the truth, man.
Cosmo Clock 21
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I see strategy and hex tiles and go hell naw
I would rather smell Eau de FGC than any amount of Axe.
sixteen-bit
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Glade should sponsor.
Cosmo Clock 21
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Or Febreeze. Or NyQuil for that tourney bug that always seems to occur.
SloaneRisette
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Once this happens tournament organizers won't even need to rent out the ballrooms in hotels. They can just run EVERY game in the hotel bathrooms.
That would be awesome.
DryEyeRelief
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PR Balrog posted his opinion on current Boxer matchups
Justin Wong followed suit with Rufus
Jeron Grayson/Emp Hiro did so as well with Dictator
I like seeing this more than tier lists...because people are better off talking about the character they main.
Justin Wong followed suit with Rufus
Jeron Grayson/Emp Hiro did so as well with Dictator
I like seeing this more than tier lists...because people are better off talking about the character they main.
sixteen-bit
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A new age of poverty
SousedLouse
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I agree. Even matchup charts like these are useful because one can at least chain their way through the logic used to sort out the matchups - something that's far more difficult to do with flat tier lists.
Wonder why hiro thinks Bison loses to Sagat ? That matchup feels really difficult to me.
theprodigy
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oh wow Apex pools got posted and the site crashed, nice
also man, some smash people are such whiners about bracket pools
also man, some smash people are such whiners about bracket pools
FTFY. I'm not sure that's a problem limited to smash.
SloaneRisette
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Did Fanatiq start playing Smash? His brightly colored pad will fit in nicely.
It'd be cool if they went into detail on why they feel some of the matchups go the way they do. Not necessarily all of them, maybe just one or two of the ones they have strong feelings on.
SousedLouse
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Bracket monsters, haha
Unless the pools are stacked, there's nothing to worry about.
There's still a lot of trades in that matchup whenever Bison tries to work his way into close dange, right? Maybe Hiro thinks Bison's at a disadvantage up close or at a distance. Other than that, I can't really guess why he'd put Sagat there.
When I was in high school the smell was "chronic and deo" which was weed mixed with lynx (same as axe).
I think a major BO problem happens because guys have armpit hair and if you use a typical deodorant it just rubs over the hair and doesn't really absorb in, at least I know I had that problem.
I promise I'm not an Old Spice representative haha, but I highly recommend this deodorant because it absorbs into the armpit better because of the grating at the top and more softer kind of substance.
I promise I'm not an Old Spice representative haha, but I highly recommend this deodorant because it absorbs into the armpit better because of the grating at the top and more softer kind of substance.
DryEyeRelief
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Also, I remember Filipino Champ doing something similar with Sim a few months ago:
every character on the x-axis is 5-5, the farther above the worse the matchup, etc.
UltraDavid
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true story
but as for me just putting up with james, i guess my "i'm interested and paying attention" face must look too much like an "i'm bored but feigning interest and not doing a good job of it" face. people have said i look bored when james talks, when we go over new games, when we have a guest, etc, even when james has something smart and interesting to say, when the game we're going over is really interesting, and when the guest is saying something interesting. i've read this so often that i've tried to work on just appearing more interested even when i'm actually already interested! sounds like maybe i'm not doing a very good job though, heh.
SUPARSTARX
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Very good Dic list. Agree with a good chunk of it on the list.
SloaneRisette
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Widen your eyes, nod your head, and stroke your beard to appear more interested!
SixMachine
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You should randomly throw out 'I CONCUR" and rub your beard. This also gives the benefit of making you look classier.
Also try to interrupt more.
You keep letting someone finish a thought or get in too many sentences in a row and people start to wonder how involved with a conversation you actually are.
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
Stroke James' chin and say "yeah hun"
I mean once Bison gets mid range against Sagat he can murder him since Sagat really struggles in that area. Then when he corners Sagat its very hard to get out.
I know Hiro plays Sanford all the time but I think Sanford is a lot better than him so that might influence his thoughts a bit.
kingofthedead45
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Is ryu a wizard? Discuss
I always tell myself not to play online on PS3 and regret it every time. Perfectionist offline, not saying that people with that title are good, but I just can't get any timing right online. I end up having to cash out early on combos. Snooze and rage fest all in one
MiniBossBattle
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Also, saying "a-ha!" or "oh yeah" or "I understand that reference!" or a simple hearty laugh "ha-HA!". Of course is could be a mental guard break you can use on James when ever he does one of his puns.
theprodigy
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oh, looks like pools are kind of up
well, at least you can view Melee/Brawl/64, the site is still down though
well, at least you can view Melee/Brawl/64, the site is still down though
SloaneRisette
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According to the Bombcast he is.
Link?
Feels like the next Eventhubs headline.
Slamtastic
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big dumb idealistic rant of mine crossposted from the "what genre makes you rage" thread
feel free to tell me i should give up the dream because it will never happen and that you don't want it to happen because you don't care about online players experiences and are afraid this would negatively impact the live tournaments you don't go to
feel free to tell me i should give up the dream because it will never happen and that you don't want it to happen because you don't care about online players experiences and are afraid this would negatively impact the live tournaments you don't go to
Fighting games are obviously a big one for many people, and the solution to it seems simple to me.
The origins of frustration for average home players losing in online fighting game matches is the binary win/loss dichotomy, and lack of persistent progression towards something tangible.
The solution that seems logical to me is to expand on some of the progression and stats point systems already included in some fighting games.
If instead of being strictly divided into "You win" and "You lose", the game could evaluate how much life you took from your opponent, if you got a round off, not getting perfected, landing a high combo, etc. and gave positive feedback and some degree of reward for doing that, or for doing specific challenges mid match, which once again, is already a part of multiple fighting games.
So then what else should be done, if fighting games nowadays still let you slowly progress in a points amount even from losses? Make those points matter with meaningful content rewards. This is probably the hardest part for a developer to implement.
Most tangible "content" that you can actually earn for perseverance in playing a fighting game, or even for doing well (online) is just titles and icons for your profile as bragging rights. Some games let you unlock cosmetics, however that brings me to my point, the key thing that would need to change and probably won't be changed by developers.
In both cases above where you can get cosmetics through in game points that are earned independent of W or L, there are other contents besides them that are locked by a paywall.
Chinese free to play fighting game Xuan Dou Zhi Wang (currently in closed beta) allows you to purchase characters, with new ones still being added, and costumes for them via in game points. I believe this business model has the potential to increase the appeal of fighting games by allowing players who lose to still progress towards a meaningful reward for not giving up after seeing "YOU LOSE" on their screen. The biggest problem, is of course that it is unreasonable to expect developers to change their current model of making post release content, cosmetic or otherwise, payed content exclusively.
I 110% agree with everything you said here.
Purchasing characters is still the wrong way to go, but accessories and aesthetic upgrades can open a market for monetization much like it has for FPS and MOBA.
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
If this picture from the most recent Gathering of the Wizards is anything to go by, then yes
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
Let me look through my archive.
SloaneRisette
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There's basically one in video form.
SousedLouse
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Ouf of all the Theory Commentator option-selects that have been mentioned in this thread, this one seems the strongest on paper.
That's a fair point - a player like Sanford can often cover their character's weaknesses and avoid bad spots so often that they seem minor. A Bison player has to make good reads in order to get into mid-range without eating too much damage or burning a lot of meter, and if Hiro's basing his opinion of the matchup on Sanford's play, it's easy to see why he'd give the edge to Sagat. Still, I consider Sanford to be one of the best Sagat players out there, so however he plays a match like that is probably how most other Sagats play it as well.
This is why details for matchup charts (and even tier lists) help out a lot - they cut out a lot of the guess work for the reader. This reminds me of when that MMCafe page first went up; a bunch of top players made their own charts, but the most popular ones were usually fleshed out with details, even if they were only mentioned in passing on a stream or something.
Sitting down and writing stuff like that is a hassle, though, so I can see why most players don't bother. And no one wants to be put on blast when people figure out stuff that changes the entire meta.
SousedLouse
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That's an excellent idea, and I think you've given solid examples of how it's already being done and how it could be taken further, without giving off a "oh my god, it's so simple, why can't anyone just do this" vibe.
However - and I hope I'm not romanticizing this too much - this seems like something that only new devs would try to work with. As you mentioned, most of the established fighting game devs are too conservative and fixated on monetizing bonuses and extras to do something like this (I don't want to say all, since Tencent is already doing it - at this point, they count - and one of them could surprise us).
I really hope that a new dev with some sense takes note of this method, because it could be a great way of making online play feel more fulfilling in general.
theprodigy
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It's in the Apex smashboards thread, someone posted images
Only just saw your response, but yeah, I caught that in the chat too. Insaynne has stepped it up big time to take those sets (apparently that score is the total of two sets, Insaynne won both, one was FT70 and the other was FT30) even against one of the two cheapest teams in the game.
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