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Fighting Games Weekly | Jan 20-26 | I Can't Believe It's Not A Fighting Game
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"God's Beard!"
Member
reminds me of the srk community tier list
That's an amazing printscreen :lol
Shoutouts to casperOne
Thanks for reminding me about that (and for the shouts). I set the post to go up last night. Should probably tweet about it.
It always helps to put a little visual aid in the post to get peoples attention.
theprodigy
Member
hey man Project M probably has the best balance out of any game Kappa
also what is with that fraudulent tier list
chriskun
Member
So it has to be the artstyle that turns most people off then. Also, I think the presentation of that game is just overwhelming, sound design mostly.Yea... but UMVC3 is still not a properly balanced fighting game. Koreans are more known for playing Tekken, a far more balanced game with a side of KOF and SF4.
And before that Americans played MVC2 a lot which was even more imbalanced.
Yeah similar to that but with the story of Berserk and you play Gutts... not a customized character.
SousedLouse
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irfaanator
Banned
lol god damn
CountBlack
Member
Well I did have two people tell me yesterday that Deejay was a broken piece of shit and his up kicks were overpowered.
Probably the same people making these lists.
Probably the same people making these lists.
Curry-Hakase
Member
I remember talking to Cuongster at Canada Cup and he says France/Europe easily considers him S tier. Everyone else's too busy sipping the Kim kool aid though.
He is very underrated.
CP was fine and balanced enough until the console version came out and ASW decided to use it as a beta for new characters.
It was the same case for the Makoto and Valk back in CS1.
Don't do this
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We all know the best Beserk game is Dark Souls
lol oh wow
Sakura being #11 is lol. Top 2 are right tho. (And boy do people hate playing against Seth.)
Really? Which version of street fighter are they even playing???
Its a combination of playability, long standing IP characters (Marvel characters) and brand recognition. MVC is still a brand and MVC3 came after a long hiatus. It was going to sell a lot no matter the quality but its playability is what is keeping the game alive even until now despite balance issues.
By playability I mean how the game feels, flows and generally how fun it is. Marvel 3 despite generating salt is still a very fun game and you just keep coming back to it for some reason. Whether it be the feel of clocking someone in the face with a Bionic Arm or doing the Pretty Ricky with Wolverine... it just sucks you right back in.
Kim's much easier thats why.
A character with stances = nope.gif. Look at Gen, look at Lei. People don't want to invest in that kind of stuff.
The one where the only movement is to jump in the air and get hit by upkicks, I guess.
sixteen-bit
Member
Musou more like Kuso amirite?
chriskun
Member
Its a combination of playability, long standing IP characters (Marvel characters) and brand recognition. MVC is still a brand and MVC3 came after a long hiatus. It was going to sell a lot no matter the quality but its playability is what is keeping the game alive even until now despite balance issues.
By playability I mean how the game feels, flows and generally how fun it is. Marvel 3 despite generating salt is still a very fun game and you just keep coming back to it for some reason. Whether it be the feel of clocking someone in the face with a Bionic Arm or doing the Pretty Ricky with Wolverine... it just sucks you right back in.
I definitely think the "playability" you mention has alot to do with it. The combos in Blazblue have a a very arbitrary feel to them, there is no rhythm to them. In Capcom fighters the combos have a very nice flow to them and seem to make sense. An outsider can look at Streetfighter or Marvel and have a rudimentary understanding of the game just by watching it. If the same person where to watch BB they would not have any idea what the fuck is going on.
Characters that need strong execution for their damage output (Oni, Sakura) are going to be underrated by a community poll, while defensive characters are going to be overrated because they're annoying to fight against.
notworksafe
Member
when srk loads on all browsers without crashing under the weight of it's ass tier web design and goes back two forum upgrades.
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
When will enzo_gt stop acknowledging eventhubs?
Yeah. Every community poll looks like this
chriskun
Member
Its a user poll.... stop acknowledging humanity is more like it.
SloaneRisette
Member
Not soon enough.
You mean like Zero?
Except he is like #1 in almost all community tier lists and most pro rankings as well.
notworksafe
Member
everyone's character is the worst piece of shit and the last person to beat them online was using the best character in the game.
chriskun
Member
Marvel enthusiasts have a deeper knowledge of the game and are much more involved in general than the large pool of street fighter fans.
Professor Beef
Banned
when the checks stop clearing
notworksafe
Member
I don't know about that.
The inherent problem with the SF4 Eventhub tier list is that it's not really a ranking of the best characters it's the ranking of characters based on match ups.
So someone like Guile could have a bunch of great match ups that would propel him to be that high. Compared to Sakura who could have some even/bad match ups that puts her at lower rank. Of course a match up list isn't the only thing that matters... you generally have to be able to compete against the top tiers. If your character can crush the lower tier characters 7-3 but then you lose to most of the top tiers 4-6.. you are still not that top of a character. That's pretty much what is happening to someone like Guile on that list... he can bully the low tiers but is out classed by the tops yet his ranking is better than it should be.
And of course a lot of people have bad knowledge on match ups which further skewers the ratings.
It's a little bit different when it's that obvious from high-level play. (See: Akuma.) Also, Marvel's execution barrier isn't quite as intimidating.
sixteen-bit
Member
what's the astroturf cpm like?
he can use the site with adblocker
chriskun
Member
That's cute, dog.
It's true, so many people watch street fighter that have barely touched the game. When the same people watch marvel they have no idea of whats going on and turn it off. Also, the frequency of a character like zero one touching entire teams is much higher than any Cammy, Sakura, or Akuma perfecting people.
I might make it out of pools now. lol
From personal experience... it's actually the opposite.
The people who watch SF4 at least know something about it yet with Marvel there are people who don't have a clue about the game (and obviously haven't played the game) but still make comments about high level play like they know their shit from watching just streams.
These are the same people who doubted Zero as #1 in the game because he wasn't winning enough and his execution was a limiting factor. Same people who demanded for Wesker nerfs.
A bit off-topic, but I wanted to say goodbye to everyone here.
I leave to do my army service in a few hours and internet access will be limited.
These threads were pretty much the only ones I semi-consistently posted on neogaf and posts by members here are what led me to the forum in the first place.
I hope the rest of 2014 is filled with good news for fighting games and even better events.
And less shitty reboots of video game series nobody wanted.
Have fun you all.
I leave to do my army service in a few hours and internet access will be limited.
These threads were pretty much the only ones I semi-consistently posted on neogaf and posts by members here are what led me to the forum in the first place.
I hope the rest of 2014 is filled with good news for fighting games and even better events.
And less shitty reboots of video game series nobody wanted.
Have fun you all.
R
Retro_
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notworksafe
Member
One touches in a game built for long as fuck combos means the audience pays more attention to game intricacies? No.
Plenty of people watch Marvel but don't play the game. It's a hype, flashy game that draws someone in. That alone is enough to drag in people that don't even give a shit about fighters or any games.
I see it all the time locally. People that don't know shit show up to events and stare at marvel for a while, then decide to enter because it "looks cool". The look plus the easy interface gives it plenty of chances to develop a new, less experienced user base.
Street Fighter tends to attract the players that already know SF4 or fighting games in general. It has a rep for being hard to learn and slow. That leads to a player base that knows what their doing from the start. Once they get into it further, they'll only get more informed (for the most part).
Good luck man. Stay safe.
The "more viewers than players" part actively helps with Marvel because the players are more likely to use high level play as a guide than their own personal experience/frustrations.
SF is a much easier game to play at a beginner level, even if the high-level play has a relatively high execution barrier walling it off.
Best wishes, stay safe. We'll be here when you get back.
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Retro_
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That EH tier list is based on user vote scaling, so you have to blame the fighting game news reading community.
I never don't do this
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