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Fighting Games Weekly | Jan 20-26 | I Can't Believe It's Not A Fighting Game
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sixteen-bit
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lol, gotta sell them DLC characters.
Dat tier.
Dat tier.
need berserk musou before anything
It'll be hilarious if they patch her right before they release her in Arcades and were using the console version as a horrific beta test.
I don't normally like Musou games, but I'd play the shit out of a Berserk one.
People call KoFXIII the "honest fighter", but SNKP wasn't honest at all with their DLC's. The 3 DLC characters are top 10, if not top 5, and Mr. Karate is arguably the best character in the game
shits like a holy grail for me if they nail that art
People should've stuck with 2nd Impact instead of going to 3rd Strike
still pissed at how bad they did ibuki in 3S
I never really follow tiers in KOF because they really don't matter as much as you think they would compared to other fighting games. Too many options unique to specific characters, still a lot of stuff to be discovered. Karate/Takuma are good. Really good. At the same time, not everyone can use Takuma.
I don't really see much '98 Iori, but NESTS Kyo I wouldn't call that high up either
Though Leona will never make top anything in XIII,
Now we are talking.
My roster for a Berserk fighting game:
Gutts
Caska (Golden Age arc version)
Griffith (Golden Age arc version)
Judeau
Skull Knight
Femto
Slan
Void
Conrad
Ubik
Zodd the Immortal
Schierke
Farnesse
Serpico
Grunbeld
Irvine
Locus
Rakshas
The Baron
Rosine
Wyald
Emperor Ganishka
Silat
Mozgus
Best anime fighting game ever.
SolarKnight
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To be fair, yeah they're all high in the tiers, but they're not broken.
Also, it's pretty much business as usual for at least Iori anyways, has the dude ever been anything lower than I think it was A in XI?
The ex characters are strong, there normals are what set them apart. Especially iori and ex kyo's. They both have normals that stuff so much things in the game. Both have standing lows but they have their flaws. The Iori infinite is stupid and thankfully you only see two people doing it because it's hard to execute. Not everyone is good with ex kyo. At least Mr Karate doesn't have Takuma damage.
Iori and 98 kyo have always been good. It's just the archetype and the set of normals they have. They fit so well in a game where anti airs aren't like street fighter.
Kalamari
Member
I know I am a little late to the discussion, but I think that fighting game appeal generally has to do with the ability to identify and relate to characters.
The reason SF appealed to so many in the beginning was because they were easy to relate to, there were no catgirls/robogirls/monstergirlwhatever, just fighters modeled after different regions of the world. It was easy for someone to see the game and say "this guy looks like a Sumo wrestler, Sumos are cool, I'm gonna play him." With anime games, most Americans generally can't identify characters as easily so they tend to avoid the games, however if they are anime aficionados they have a much easier job of identifying the characters.
I think it explains why certain franchises are more successful in Japan versus the U.S. and vice-versa, it's hard to identify characters that don't fall into some kind of familiar stereotype.
Wasn't he mid-tier in CvS2
High Mid. Can compete with the top no problem.
Curry-Hakase
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Top level KoF has pretty much narrowed itself down to almost all teams having some form of DLC or Kim on their team.
Kind of like how the majority of teams in high level marvel will have shells made with Doom and/or Vergil. Although the top tiers in KoF are way more honest than the tops in Marvel.
They aren't broken at all! Just really good.
SolarKnight
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Well I meant in KoF games though
You know, I can agree with that. Kyokugen Team is used a lot. Last year EVO, top 8 in KOF had a couple of Kyokugen folk in there
I don't see that. Maybe lots of top players agree, but I also see people upset that the rules got changed after they paid their money, which is the actual problem here.
Akuma lock down could be figured out within a couple dollars put in the machine by 10 year old, non-pro me.
KOF is just more about raw skill at the end of the day. Reynald won apex with ash ffs, and MadKOF won a FT10 against Xiao Hai using random select.
Kim is bullshit though. He gets away with a lot of crap.
lol.
Kim is bullshit though. He gets away with a lot of crap.
lol.
Seasoned Badger
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2I Ibuki had 1 player game bullshit.....at least you somewhat get to play the game when playing against 3s Chun.
Pre-liminary Eventhub AE tier list:
1. Akuma 214.8
2. Cammy 212.6
3. Seth 209.8
4. Fei Long 204.4
5. C. Viper 200.2
6. Adon 200.1
7. Ibuki 198.8
8. Yun 198.7
9. Sagat 195.2
10. Rufus 194.8
11. Sakura 193.8
12. Guile 193.0
13. Ryu 192.9
14. M. Bison 191.8
15. Balrog 191.5
16. Gen 191.0
17. Evil Ryu 190.3
18. Ken 190.1
19. Juri 189.5
20. Blanka 189.4
21. Oni 189.2
22. Vega 188.1
23. Abel 187.6
24. Rose 186.4
25. Chun-Li 185.9
26. Dee Jay 185.8
27. Guy 185.4
28. Zangief 185.3
29. Cody 184.2
30. Makoto 184.1
31. Yang 183.1
32. Gouken 183.0
33. E. Honda 182.6
34. Dhalsim 181.3
35. El Fuerte 181.0
36. Dudley 180.1
37. Hakan 179.8
38. T. Hawk 171.5
39. Dan 161.4
1. Akuma 214.8
2. Cammy 212.6
3. Seth 209.8
4. Fei Long 204.4
5. C. Viper 200.2
6. Adon 200.1
7. Ibuki 198.8
8. Yun 198.7
9. Sagat 195.2
10. Rufus 194.8
11. Sakura 193.8
12. Guile 193.0
13. Ryu 192.9
14. M. Bison 191.8
15. Balrog 191.5
16. Gen 191.0
17. Evil Ryu 190.3
18. Ken 190.1
19. Juri 189.5
20. Blanka 189.4
21. Oni 189.2
22. Vega 188.1
23. Abel 187.6
24. Rose 186.4
25. Chun-Li 185.9
26. Dee Jay 185.8
27. Guy 185.4
28. Zangief 185.3
29. Cody 184.2
30. Makoto 184.1
31. Yang 183.1
32. Gouken 183.0
33. E. Honda 182.6
34. Dhalsim 181.3
35. El Fuerte 181.0
36. Dudley 180.1
37. Hakan 179.8
38. T. Hawk 171.5
39. Dan 161.4
Slamtastic
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I don't understand the placement of MK input in your list.
CountBlack
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lol
Passive Assassin
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how about new berserk chapters instead.
Cosmo Clock 21
Banned
I don't either
DryEyeRelief
Member
Yeah no
If anything the Americans are not really too concerned about balance (they play Smash and Marvel).
The country that seems to care about balance is Korea and I don't know of a BBCP scene over there.
irfaanator
Banned
Tbh in kof, I would put chin as the cheap shit/almost broken character. Once you know how to play that guy, he is straight bananas. God like throw range/one of three characters able to combo throw in corner, high/low mixup, and increase damage from drinks. The other character that most people play is kim. I forgot who mentioned it, but you'll see alot of top players (like most of the cafeid people) play kim on anchor b/c of his range,confirms, and damage
CountBlack
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Eventhubs gotta chill with all these fraudulent lists
ViewtifulJC
Banned
guess he's not a weak character
Holy Order Sol
Member
Plus the same could be said of their regular counterparts.
Apparently that normal throw is 0-frame for some reason too, don't ask me how that works.
Slamtastic
Member
Well I mean, it's not like a Down, Forward input won't work if you hit Down-Forward in between, so functionally it can be exactly like Street Fighters inputs, only with no charges on Back Forward moves (speaking from 9, maybe previous games had dumb inputs)
The major exception being the Down, Forward, Back or Down, Back, Forward inputs for command throws in Injustice and some moves in MK9.
There's also the fact that in Injustice to do attacks with different variations (screen position close/medium/far or projectile speed slow/medium/fast) you input the move, then hold a direction on the stick during the move's startup to define which version you want.
Does anyone legit have a problem with that? Or have a problem with the philosophy of using the same button, but different inputs for variations of moves (D,F for Grappling Hook, D,B for upward Grappling Hook, etc.) instead of the other way around?
And here's another question regarding how NRS does things: Not having a special strength for every attack strength (LP HP or L M H). Do you think this is okay? Does Ryu really NEED 3 Hadokens?
MiniBossBattle
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gross.
hi hater
I always thought it had more to do with the release dates outside of japan.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
Now EA giving ou moneyhats...
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chriskun
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As much of a bullshit character Vergil is you have a chance against him and he's not very good without xfactor. Smash is not designed to be a competitive fighting game, it is an anomaly. Blazblue is designed to be a serious fighting game, yet it is still plagued by horrible matchups and bad character balance.
sixteen-bit
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Dahbomb to shill for Marvel Nemesis 2 instead of MvC4
"God's Beard!"
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You mean Dragon's Dogma
SousedLouse
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Yea... but UMVC3 is still not a properly balanced fighting game. Koreans are more known for playing Tekken, a far more balanced game with a side of KOF and SF4.
And before that Americans played MVC2 a lot which was even more imbalanced.
Yeah similar to that but with the story of Berserk and you play Gutts... not a customized character.
ViewtifulJC
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"Marvel Nemesis was highly Underated"
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