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Fighting Games Weekly | Jan 26 - Feb 1 | Zaibatschu
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KBR is a bit worried of J2 Jin I believe, he took the tournament last week in Bolivia and a rematch in the Grand Finals is the likeliest scenario. I'm Peruvian so of course I'll be rotting for my fellow countrymen and I actually know most of the people who went to the tournament
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
It's necessary with how ryu's power up works
Now that I'm home and watching the SF5 footage again and not just on my phone I can comment a bit more.
Animations look a bit jank in some places for sure and I don't love that some of the combos seem to move at half speed (not sure if this is design or just some engine optimization issues). As for the general gameplay looking slow, I'm not really sure yet. This video seems to only exist in 30fps so that already throws me off a bit, along with it being done by two players who don't really know the game yet. Not saying that explains or excuses everything by any stretch, but it's hard to be certain if the gameplay's slowed down intentionally, if this is a result of it being played 'wrong' or unoptimized or possibly both.
The chun-li fireball wall was kinda cool, I thought, but I wonder what they've designed in to the game to deal with that. Like maybe Ryu's tatsu is fast enough to punish the fireballs or has to be predicted with an early tatsu based on patterns. Maybe Ryu has some other tool that hasn't been shown etc.
In its current state, I don't think the game looks amazing or, honestly, all that interesting but I'm curious to see what we still don't know yet.
Animations look a bit jank in some places for sure and I don't love that some of the combos seem to move at half speed (not sure if this is design or just some engine optimization issues). As for the general gameplay looking slow, I'm not really sure yet. This video seems to only exist in 30fps so that already throws me off a bit, along with it being done by two players who don't really know the game yet. Not saying that explains or excuses everything by any stretch, but it's hard to be certain if the gameplay's slowed down intentionally, if this is a result of it being played 'wrong' or unoptimized or possibly both.
The chun-li fireball wall was kinda cool, I thought, but I wonder what they've designed in to the game to deal with that. Like maybe Ryu's tatsu is fast enough to punish the fireballs or has to be predicted with an early tatsu based on patterns. Maybe Ryu has some other tool that hasn't been shown etc.
In its current state, I don't think the game looks amazing or, honestly, all that interesting but I'm curious to see what we still don't know yet.
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
Ryu gains 1 extra hit on his fireball for the entire match every time he powers up
It kept that title in the english release so thats why
Osu 16 Bit
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Because it was called Garou in America.
Osu 16 Bit
Member
It was Garou on Neo Geo though which is like a year older than Dreamcast.
Osu 16 Bit
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Yeah. It's weird because they changed character names for America but not the game title.
ViewtifulJC
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Seven Force
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Neo Geo was getting games up until 2003-2004, IIRC.
Damn, y'all made this SFV footage sound like it was two characters hugging in molasses. I don't think it's slow at all, and the gameplay can only get faster. Even if it was super (Marvel) fast, that's not really the greatest look either because it can make a game look intimidating.
Coffeeling
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Did we watch the same footage? Because that was molasses.
Yeah I don't get it either. The overall speed seems to be similar to SF4, and I think Ryu is just being made a slower, harder hitting character in general in this one. Paying more attention to Chun and the game seems fine.
I'm holding judgement until we see more of it. Different characters may be faster, and obviously it's still early.
i'm telling you brother, pod people are real
try focusing on chun
Lost Fragment
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The salt in my inbox will be super-real when SF5 comes out and I beat a bunch of fighting game newbies with fireball "spam."
ThatCrazyGuy
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I think its looks slow as well. Not the pace, the moves and animations. Its looks clunky for SF. Imo of course. Its mostly ryu that is bugging me.
I said the same thing before. We shall see how it turns out in a year.
I said the same thing before. We shall see how it turns out in a year.
hitsugi
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It could be intentional to represent Ryu as some kind of hard hitting powerhouse - the emphasis seems to be there and might make sense of how he appears to be clunky.
...still looks weird though
CountBlack
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The game is mad early in production, chill y'all.
remember how fugtastic SF4 looked while in beta stages
remember how fugtastic SF4 looked while in beta stages
Parallax Scroll
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Duh, that's not winning with skill
sixteen-bit
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How wrong.
I'm sure they'll fix it. Claudio's rage art got nerfed too.
CountBlack
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#niggawemadeit
biosnake20
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Yipes is
literally
foxuzamaki
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The speed/pace didn't change much though, did it?
MiniBossBattle
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This. This. This.
toddhunter
Member
Looking great.
Except the god damn sparks everywhere.
SF5 = Ruined by being slow
T7 = Ruined by sparks
MKX = Ruined by being MK
Who is making these decisions?
SixMachine
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Managed to watch that SF5 footage. I'm guessing fireballs might have some durability now. Ryu when V-triggered went through Chun's fireball and hit her. I wonder what happens if V-trigger spam from Chun and Ryu, who would win out, because that would depend on how many fireballs Ryu's hadouken can eat up. Also Ryu's fireball does a crap load of damage when it landed, zoning will be extremely strong if they keep the mechanics the way they are.
On the topic of speed, I think Chun actually walks backward fine, looks close to her SF4 speed. Ryu looks like he got a lot slower but tankier though. There seems to be a lot of animation, so I wonder if it is what makes normals look relatively slower in this case. Though I do notice there is a trend every single time game footage is released that it always looks slower or it takes too long. I remember back when people said the kill times in MVC3 were too long lol.
Damage overall looks higher in SF5 than SF4 though. Some or Ryu's two hit combos and normals just did lots of damage. Ryu's normal throw looks like it did more than SF4 Rufus throw damage (though that is kind of hard to compare).
On the topic of speed, I think Chun actually walks backward fine, looks close to her SF4 speed. Ryu looks like he got a lot slower but tankier though. There seems to be a lot of animation, so I wonder if it is what makes normals look relatively slower in this case. Though I do notice there is a trend every single time game footage is released that it always looks slower or it takes too long. I remember back when people said the kill times in MVC3 were too long lol.
Damage overall looks higher in SF5 than SF4 though. Some or Ryu's two hit combos and normals just did lots of damage. Ryu's normal throw looks like it did more than SF4 Rufus throw damage (though that is kind of hard to compare).
Damn, that Steve combo is disgustingly awesome.
hitsugi
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What Count is probably referring to are the early "alpha" images of SF4 that are basically unrecognizable by comparison to that video.. I don't think any footage of it in motion exists but everyone's favorite site has a compilation of screenshots:
http://www.eventhubs.com/news/2011/dec/01/alpha-version-screen-shots-street-fighter-iv/
The difference is Smash 4 looked faster than Brawl.
I hope not, because comparing those images to the state of SF5 would be crazy.
I don't ever remember Capcom showing those images prior to the game's release. The first-look images we got were from EGM and they look pretty much identical to what we see today.
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