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Fighting Games Weekly | June 1-7 | QAisTopTier
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Coffeeling
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;_;
I would make a good game. Maybe. Someone once told me if I did one it'd either be amazing or an abject disaster, with little chance of being in the middle
Yup, I couldn't handle it I think. I can do slow, but I really just want to run up and press buttons. Far more comfortable playing the long, slow game in Magic.
SF4, to this day, is the best salt generator I've ever come across. The game has made me rage like almost no other.
And even then, if you compare to say ST or 3S, the pace is just considerably lower because movement is so ass and natural high/low threat is nonexistent.
I agree with every word of this. A little bit of imabalance is actually desirable - people get villains to hate, people like me get stuff that gives a nice criminal feeling because it's just a bit too good, the low tier heroes get their underdogs, and so on.
The main important thing is to have the balance be tight enough. Massively separated tiers just turn stuff into a farce, but if they're compressed well enough, usually with the aid of universal defensive mechanics, you'll get a game that serves everyone and where you can focus on making stuff fun.
KOF? They obviously have tier lists, but the games (2k2um and 13 at least) are so system oriented that most anyone can compete. Even if you go by high tier only, the high tiers are large. 2k2um has about a third of the cast (21/66 characters in god+top tier) rated in the top tier and 13 has a really large high tier as well.
atomic moth
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Never really played Skullgirls. Bought it on Steam with the character dlc on sale last night. 6 bucks. Even if I never have time to get around to it, I think the theme and animation would probably entertain house guests for a little while on some random future weekend. Definitely worth it.
sixteen-bit
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Isn't Encore coming out soon?
I thought Encore was just the name given to the PS4/Vita edition that has everything the current PC version does, and that current PC version is still the current, updated version?
SolarPowered
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Vanilla Skullgirls April 10th 2012
Skullgirls "SDE" Slightly Different Edition Nov 20th, 2012
Skullgirls PC August 23rd 2013
Skullgirls Encore February 11th, 2014 and April 4th 2014 (PS3-360)
Skullgirls 2nd Encore for PS4/Vita crossbuy (TBD)
Second encore will include combo trials, a GG style mission mode, a fully voiced story mode, Robo Fortune and other things I'm probably forgetting. PC will match in the roster and balancing, but 2nd Encore will have exclusive features. I hope something can be done about that down the road because tons of people would be just fine with paying for the upgrade.
KOF has obviously got a large international following, but it's almost strange how little talk it gets around these parts besides the token adoration of XIII or requests for CvS3. Makes it kind of hard to gauge where SNK's classics sit in terms of quality, balance and so on.
Parallax Scroll
Banned
Is that where they're adding Robo Fortune?
Oh shit, looks like a patch for USFIV's PS4 port is now live! Can't wait to see the new bugs
CountBlack
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What about the fuckin lag
Yeah, Norcal Regionals and Cafe Id's IGT 2015 tournament (Korea) took place at the same weekend this year. Showed my excitement here but was told there wasn't much to look forward to etc. at IGT, obviously most here were watching NCR.
Meanwhile the KOFXIII IGT grand finals (Xiao Hai v. Misterio) had over 100K viewers.
As for older titles, iirc KOF97 is insanely popular in China, has like SF2 status to this day and the last tournament there had some insane viewer numbers. The game is very poorly balanced however but they clearly don't care it seems.
No mention of fix on the input lag.
It's kinda nice that they put this out pretty quickly. I expected at least a week for all those fixes.
This generation is a double edged sword sometimes. On one end developers are more prone to put out shittier release games but on the other end games are able to be fixed over time.
Like that quote that people like to state of Miyamoto where he says that a bad game is bad forever... that thing really doesn't hold true anymore.
There's a thread today that yet another MCC patch has caused yet more problems.
There's only so much magic a patch can work.
CountBlack
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Game does feel a lot better. Still a tiny bit of lag, maybe on par with the PS3 version.
Might just be a placebo effect tbh
Hold up, you can't change the character voices per character? It's either all in Japanese or English?
nigga what
Might just be a placebo effect tbh
Hold up, you can't change the character voices per character? It's either all in Japanese or English?
nigga what
Some developers are just incompetent like that. I am honestly surprised 343 hasn't been fired by Microsoft already.
There are many examples of games this generation that went from "bad" to "good, even great" over the course of a year through consistent support and patching.
Yeah. If the problems are mostly balance and reasonably fixable glitches (not massive scale problems, like the entire engine, or whatever), you can really improve a game.
ãInaba Residentã
Banned
Game does feel a lot better. Still a tiny bit of lag, maybe on par with the PS3 version.
Might just be a placebo effect tbh
Hold up, you can't change the character voices per character? It's either all in Japanese or English?
nigga what
Beat Arcade mode. Its always been like that
Game does feel a lot better. Still a tiny bit of lag, maybe on par with the PS3 version.
Might just be a placebo effect tbh
Hold up, you can't change the character voices per character? It's either all in Japanese or English?
nigga what
you have to beat the game on hard mode I think to unlock that
irfaanator
Banned
Game does feel a lot better. Still a tiny bit of lag, maybe on par with the PS3 version.
Might just be a placebo effect tbh
Hold up, you can't change the character voices per character? It's either all in Japanese or English?
nigga what
who wants to hear the american voices
CountBlack
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Wasn't like that on the 360 ver tho
It's the same on every version. Reason why I always just set it to all jpn voices and call it a day.
They transformed FF14 and that game was trash when it was first released. Complete overhaul to the game. Now it's considered one of the best MMOs around (definitely among the best console MMOs).
It's really a matter of how much effort you want to put into fixing a game.
KidA Seven
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I don't trust those viewer numbers if they're on douyu. You know how a chat can get like with that many viewers, but on Douyu the chat is practically dead.
Lol @ "firing" 343
irfaanator
Banned
you mean 14. and yea it's a complete overhaul and one of their biggest income generators. It also helped that they got yoship on board.
What's so LOL about it? Please explain it to me because I don't follow Halo/343 news that closely.
CountBlack
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how do I stream from my PS4 to twitch
343 is a cool dude, he doesn't scare of anything
They're in crunch time for Halo 5.
Firing 343 is like Nintendo firing Miyamoto.
It doesn't even matter what quality the product is to the hardcore, because the casual mass market will eat that shit up and make the company back WAY more than they invest.
Like it or not 343 is Halo now. If you don't like their Halo then stop buying it. I tried H5 beta, thought it was meh, sold off my XB1 until a reduced price and the hope that Gears of War 4 is "the hot new sex".
call_kotaku
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I'm just surprised people still go "DAY 1!!!!!!" on games, since you're paying to get the worst version of the game. Wait a couple of weeks and you'll get a version that has fewer bugs and more balanced gameplay, and possibly for much cheaper too. I wouldn't buy Fallout 4 until the following steam Summer/Winter sale, because it usually takes that long for Bethesda to get a game in working condition and I'd actually save money by waiting.
Like, I get that people can't control their hype, but there's no way that shit is healthy for consumers or the industry. If it's an early access game then charge 25% less and call it what it is, instead of stuffing it full of preorder bonuses and calling it the deluxe edition.
Like, I get that people can't control their hype, but there's no way that shit is healthy for consumers or the industry. If it's an early access game then charge 25% less and call it what it is, instead of stuffing it full of preorder bonuses and calling it the deluxe edition.
343 is a studio created from the ground up specifically to handle Halo's legacy and do everything in house and replace Bungie. They're always going to be the primary studio when it comes to Halo.
CountBlack
Member
Some sound fx are still off
Lostconfused
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If you read the thread the problems were caused by incompetence, namely outsourcing was the cause of incompetence. So chances are a patch can fix pretty much everything as long as the people working on the patch are capable. So it's not how much magic a patch can work but rather how much good work is put into the patch.
http://www.ugcgamer.com/
ugc holds weeklies i think. many of the super arcade people are going there for now.
Da fu? I had to pay $225.00 for mine on Amazon. It's going for $200.00 right now for 1 left on Amazon...
It's negotiable either way, but damn you got a helluva deal.
Also going to point out that 343 is part of Microsoft from my understanding. So you can't really...uh...fire them as it were. The big problem with MCC was that the H2 part was done partially in-house, but they liked what they saw from the contractors and got ambitious and tried to do all of the games with the contractors...and it went poorly. I wish they had just stuck to Halo: CE Anniversary + Halo 2 for now, and then done Halo 3 / ODST in 2017. Could do Halo: Reach + Halo 4 in 2019.
Da fu? I had to pay $225.00 for mine on Amazon. It's going for $200.00 right now for 1 left on Amazon...
It's negotiable either way, but damn you got a helluva deal.
Its because they're low in stock right now. The real price should be no more than 150.
While playing, press the Share button on the controller. Then choose Twitch.
You will have to create a Twitch account first, I think.
CountBlack
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thanks breh
"God's Beard!"
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Bess bipson
You're getting too hung up on what is tecnically possible with unrestricted resources versus what can be reasonably expected given existing experiences and reasonable assumptions. The former holds no interest for me.
Speaking of effort though, the team that transformed FF14 was bigger than the original team and they worked on it for about two years, that was a dream scenario which we wont see repeated much if ever again.
Lostconfused
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So it's reasonable to assume that the people involved are incompetent, have no idea what they are doing, and a total lack of QA.
Should probably just give up on video games entirely.
No problem. I forgot to mention, after you press Share select [Broadcast Gameplay] then Twitch.
Edit: I'm watchin your stream!
Pretty ballsy move versus cutting losses. One of the wilder transformations last ten for sure.
Happened with Diablo 3 and is probably going to happen with Destiny as well.
Some people claim that Driveclub is a much better than it first released but I haven't played it to comment on it.
"God's Beard!"
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When he dies he sounds like Mr Krabbs which makes me laugh.
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