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Fighting Games Weekly | Sept 1-7 | Opponent-Based Action Games Weekly
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hi esteban, i just wanna say i am a huge fan of your work especially the player interviews. all the best with the documentary. i'm sure it will turn out great.
Yeah, it's weird to think that Capcom's character DLC model is actually quite affordable in comparison to ASW's.
Good seeing you at Summer Jam, and now on GAF.
irfaanator
Banned
waiting for that blu ray version of the documentary
It's hard for me to be excited for characters you don't really know much about. I feel the same about Sin even though we have a few screenshots out for him already. I want to see what her moves look like.
The new character is voiced by the same that voiced Mako in KLK.
Plenty enough to get excited for me.
SloaneRisette
Member
Kickstarted your project, I'm excited to see how it turns out. I loved stuff like I Got Next and Focus, so I'm really hype to see your finished project.
And welcome!
Smooth Operator
Member
Sure I totally see what you're saying, but I don't think it's unreasonable to get a rough idea of what her gameplan might look like with just this:
Siliconera said:
Long range tools with rifles and close-range space control with a shotgun. Enough for me to get interested!
The reload thing makes me think she might have an active reload thingy like Eltnum in UNiEL does to power up her next shots. I have no clue what "FPS-like controls" mean, but it's intriguing the shit outta me.
Welcome! Are you The Esteban from the Brian Gramo story? BTW I'm trying to fing the video where he tells the esteban story and I can't find it
LMAO at using their breasts to reload their guns. Holy shit, that caught me completely off guard.
I hadn't considered gun-kata at all. I guess that'd be cool too, but that'd honestly make less interested in the character. I suppose I want more Chris Redfield than Noel Vermillion.
BrokenTier is having another roundtable tonight at 6PM PST / 9PM EDT:
Issue here is IIRC you cannot purchase content on PSN unless your account is already linked to a console. So say I want to purchase a PS4 + Xrd down the line, but maybe not at release, something not uncommon at all during this console transition, I'm locked out. Like I mentioned before, if your objective is to discourage second hand sales, providing bonus content for new purchases is handled better and all bases are covered by including a key in physical copies or packaging the digital version with that content. Alternatively, ASW chose to manipulate the market probably because of Lostconfused's reason, and they don't expect the game to have legs. Can't rock with one pump publishers in 2014 that have that sort of outlook on game longevity.
the difference between gg's 'classic anime' design and bb's modern anime design is that the classic anime stuff draws inspiration from other mediums and cultures for inspiration
see the huge cyberpunk trend of the 80s and 90s passing over to japan also. gg's characters are a combination of heavy metal tropes and 90s/80s anime tropes so there's more inspiration being drawn from different sources to create more aesthetically interesting characters ultimately
blazblue's designs are exclusively based off stereotypes based off the same medium (anime) which has been taking tropes from itself for the past decade or two so it's compounded onto itself in terms of stereotypical design that doesn't offer much interesting characterization beyond whatever slight alteration of a trope they have
this rule generally applies to western comic book shit too- nobody remembers the giant minefield of garbage liefield characters because they all suffer the same issue of drawing design inspiration almost exclusively from their own medium with ~a twist~, leading to really poor designs
overdesigned is a real way to describe some stuff but the line is different for people. generally it refers to either being too 'pandering' in the sense that one can effectively tell that the character was designed only with that audience in mind alongside having a design that is visually noisy to the point of bothering the viewer.
there's also 'design by committee' which is usually also subbed in for 'overdesigned' and that's usually referring to the pandering aspect alongside an interesting design that has either been watered down to blandness or just an overall bland design that only does the bare minimum to pander to an overall audience. an easy example of this is the new robocop, though it's arguable that the design evoking that is actually on purpose from a critical perspective.
see the huge cyberpunk trend of the 80s and 90s passing over to japan also. gg's characters are a combination of heavy metal tropes and 90s/80s anime tropes so there's more inspiration being drawn from different sources to create more aesthetically interesting characters ultimately
blazblue's designs are exclusively based off stereotypes based off the same medium (anime) which has been taking tropes from itself for the past decade or two so it's compounded onto itself in terms of stereotypical design that doesn't offer much interesting characterization beyond whatever slight alteration of a trope they have
this rule generally applies to western comic book shit too- nobody remembers the giant minefield of garbage liefield characters because they all suffer the same issue of drawing design inspiration almost exclusively from their own medium with ~a twist~, leading to really poor designs
overdesigned is a real way to describe some stuff but the line is different for people. generally it refers to either being too 'pandering' in the sense that one can effectively tell that the character was designed only with that audience in mind alongside having a design that is visually noisy to the point of bothering the viewer.
there's also 'design by committee' which is usually also subbed in for 'overdesigned' and that's usually referring to the pandering aspect alongside an interesting design that has either been watered down to blandness or just an overall bland design that only does the bare minimum to pander to an overall audience. an easy example of this is the new robocop, though it's arguable that the design evoking that is actually on purpose from a critical perspective.
Lol, maybe I don't get it because I don't play GG. Oh well, I hope she's a character that gets long-range conversions like Nu rather than a character like Noel or Eltnum.
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
Yup, people are funny
this argument is flawed as fuck and that person is dumb as fuck
there is nothing stopping the people who dislike that design from also disliking all the designs and aspects of characters that pander to that same audience of anime children lovers
may is distinctly a different trope from bridget too, who is more in line with the new character in terms of design goals
Having manual control over where she aims (e.g., using up/down to adjust the angle rather than having fixed projectile angles) could be neat. I'm not sure how doing that while moving would work with just one stick + buttons though. Maybe command movement options, where using joystick during it affects the aim?
I've never played GG either! I'm just making guesses and using my imagination!
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Retro_
Unconfirmed Member
What did he mean when he said she's "from AC"
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
Gahaha are you being serious
It could be similar to how Hisui's projectile throw works (aka you can input a direction during the move's startup to control which projectiles come out).
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Retro_
Unconfirmed Member
How does any aspect of this girl's design "pander to anime children lovers"?
SolarPowered
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I love Enzo's avatar. Being greeted by Samus was not expected here of all places.
I just decided to skip all their DLC since it doesn't seem to get sales and they don't do digital upgrades historically. DLC for separate discs is just annoying when it's one fighting game series. Kokonoe will probably be ass in the next game... oh well.
Me neither
I just decided to skip all their DLC since it doesn't seem to get sales and they don't do digital upgrades historically. DLC for separate discs is just annoying when it's one fighting game series. Kokonoe will probably be ass in the next game... oh well.
brother i am always dead serious. fight me in word-based combat so we can determine who is right and just
not talkin' about the new character, the tweet references bridget and the crew of johnny's ship whom are all designed that way. i would go as far to say that dizzy is also designed that way too but the tweet didn't mention that either
bridget and the new char share the same design goal of hitting an anime trope that is built upon itself, sorry if i didn't clarify
note that i have no real hatred of the new character in the slightest, i just want folks to discuss what they see to me 'cuz i don't really see on the same level
you cant be real right now.
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Retro_
Unconfirmed Member
Did any new version of SSF4 ever update the trials?
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
It's like the anime version of smash bros
Don't think so. I think I played it once since the update
No they are still mostly worthless
kinda fun but largely impractical. Ultra is slated to get trials for AE characters onward at some point.
UltraDavid
Member
heh awesome! are you in hawaii then? i hope he seemed like he was having a good time. and yeah he doesn't drink much, tbh i don't drink much nowadays either but i can still put a few back now and then. cheers to you too!
Smooth Operator
Member
Hey Deckard what's up bro.
not much, but whatever
i got some gift cards that totally aren't used, you wanna bet on something?
Parallax Scroll
Banned
That does sound cool. I like the idea of being able to shoot and aim during command run/dash move.
Oh! what about a command special that put you into an "aim state" where two buttons become "aim up/down" and a third becomes "shoot"? Sounds a bit needlessly complex and not very "FPS-like" however.
...We're probably getting too ahead of ourselves with this little info to go on lol.
So there will always be a Deckard?
Not getting into the character design argument, but the site said something about sniping.
It really could be halfway interesting if she actually did more damage if the player could aim and hit the opponent in the head. Or if hitting people in different places had different effects, Fallout style.
But that would be hard to really put in.
thanks for posting about it! totally love danganronpa and hope others like it enough for me to keep making weird random game shirts.
And koogy just got even cooler
he sure did
sorry to hear that, what shirt do you have? we've used the same shirts since launch back in 2010.
I have one of the red AHVB shirts. It's nothing crazy, plenty of t-shirts have this problem. I guess I fit in a weird camp in-between Small and Medium too so that doesn't help.
There's a certain feeling with heavier tighter shirts that's hard to describe. Your shirt designs on more worn out t-shirts would be godlike. I'd def buy more if you guys offered a softer shirt.
SloaneRisette
Member
Really wanna get this shirt, and might do so if I can swing the budget. You make some of the best shirts by far, especially FGC/video game related ones
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