Final Fantasy 7 Remake: Chunk 1 (CyberConnect2, UE4) Trailer, "PS4 Console Debut"
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KyanMehwulfe
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just watched this a few minutes ago.... huge huge FF VII fan (bought my PSX just for the demo that came with it and basically close to my #1 favorite game)
first thought was actually a bit underwhelmed :O I kinda didn't like the voice acting I guess... Barret sounds so... serious. He should be hollering and howling. Both Barret and Cloud seemed a bit skinny, too. I mean, they looked too normal ;p Cloud is OK but I kinda wish Barret was bigger.
I guess I was hoping for maybe slightly disproportionate realism... kinda like the FF VII concept CGI, like that original CGI of Cloud in front of Shin-ra HQ... more realistic than chibi but just a little disproportionate. this looks basically full realism a la AC. I always thought that when you model Cloud's sword proportions based on disproportionate body's you gotta sort of keep them the same. it sword looks better when you have a little bit of a disproportionate body size, kinda looks weird when he's just a realistic skinny guy walking around town. wish it was a bit more like the original CGI concepts but i mean, that's just personal taste anyhow so no biggy, just smalls.
sort of super subjective stuff aside though... pretty happy but what i saw. game looks good and farther along than I thought. the combat looked really good... kinda too flashy? but maybe it's a little overloaded with special particle effects and not indicative of regular combat. and yeah I was hoping for turn-based but it looks like it's kinda... FF XII or XIV esque? real-time buth you use menus to attack, not press X to hack and slash? or at least a mix of X attacks and menu for tactics... looks good, at least, and I'm happy to see the menus
it was kinda weird seeing some of the boring world movement parts haha just because you build up a game so much and forget about that, yeah, there's generic walking around the town and such. but that's great... shows progress. definitely overall psyched.
first thought was actually a bit underwhelmed :O I kinda didn't like the voice acting I guess... Barret sounds so... serious. He should be hollering and howling. Both Barret and Cloud seemed a bit skinny, too. I mean, they looked too normal ;p Cloud is OK but I kinda wish Barret was bigger.
I guess I was hoping for maybe slightly disproportionate realism... kinda like the FF VII concept CGI, like that original CGI of Cloud in front of Shin-ra HQ... more realistic than chibi but just a little disproportionate. this looks basically full realism a la AC. I always thought that when you model Cloud's sword proportions based on disproportionate body's you gotta sort of keep them the same. it sword looks better when you have a little bit of a disproportionate body size, kinda looks weird when he's just a realistic skinny guy walking around town. wish it was a bit more like the original CGI concepts but i mean, that's just personal taste anyhow so no biggy, just smalls.
sort of super subjective stuff aside though... pretty happy but what i saw. game looks good and farther along than I thought. the combat looked really good... kinda too flashy? but maybe it's a little overloaded with special particle effects and not indicative of regular combat. and yeah I was hoping for turn-based but it looks like it's kinda... FF XII or XIV esque? real-time buth you use menus to attack, not press X to hack and slash? or at least a mix of X attacks and menu for tactics... looks good, at least, and I'm happy to see the menus
it was kinda weird seeing some of the boring world movement parts haha just because you build up a game so much and forget about that, yeah, there's generic walking around the town and such. but that's great... shows progress. definitely overall psyched.
Yep
Let's look at female Cloud for reference
Needs more belts. Why stop at 13?
... What...? If anything this looks like a flashier Crisis Core.
That answer was... incredible.
On topic: as a matter of fact, we of japanese heritage have that yellow colour in the sun. It means: Cloud must be japanese, or he's truly sick.
SolVanderlyn
Thanos acquires the fully powered Infinity Gauntlet in The Avengers: Infinity War, but loses when all the superheroes team up together to stop him.
Versus XIII was kinda looking like that at one point
Go_Ly_Dow
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Yep
Let's look at female Cloud for reference
I think Noctis in XV is a better example, since Nomura wasn't director of XIII.
He gave Noctis like 3-4 haircuts and facial changes. (Stella as well, R.I.P).
That's pretty obvious. Nomura's blog post about 'burning passion' really comes back to me heh.
Like a fusion system of Crisis core, Type 0, KH, Versus, and original FF7 all mixed together
Demon Lizardman
Banned
so the shinra soldiers look the same, then who were these guys?
so the shinra soldiers look the same, then who were these guys?
My assumption is that those were Shinra soldiers, but SE/Nomura/whoever changed their minds since then and went with the more original look.
Watch the 2011 gameplay trailer for versus, the tone, artstyle and even gameplay are all really similar.
SolVanderlyn
Thanos acquires the fully powered Infinity Gauntlet in The Avengers: Infinity War, but loses when all the superheroes team up together to stop him.
OG Avalanche members, probably.so the shinra soldiers look the same, then who were these guys?
Demon Lizardman
Banned
Ah, I kind of liked the designs, kind of fit the slightly more realistic vision they had, maybe they could have met a common fusion between both designs.
Crash Station
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Looking around the internet, it seems people are interpreting the battle system in a million different ways. I'm seeing some people saying it looks like Grandia, with some saying it looks like Xenoblade with more control.
As much as this news is giving me an aneurysm, it might be a good idea to wait.
As much as this news is giving me an aneurysm, it might be a good idea to wait.
Now this is one thing I didnt think of. I really hope the world will be like XIV / XV /Dragon Quest VIII, where its totally explorable and not some point to point on a map.
There has to be a full overworld... a fully realized overworld. Same with whatever airship travel.
I dunno how someone could get Grandia out of that. Unless they are on auto movement after targeting an enemy?
Napalm_Frank
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I expect nothing less than Don Corneo in delicious full HD when E3 rolls.
Primethius
Banned
Yes, most likely PS4/NX with a PC version sometime in that timeframe.
LouisaFerre
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I still think the left looks significantly better. her facial features look more human. I feel like in the transition, her face ended up looking more doll like, which is a little weird. Also, I think the red hair is just easier on the eyes and fits better with the rest of her color palette.
Hexa
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It's cross platform but we don't know what other platforms.
Bruce Lee couldn't swing around a sword as broad as his back and taller than him.
Wishmaster92
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I like the remake version of cloud the best so far.
Demon Lizardman
Banned
I want to hear what Heidigger's laugh will sound like. Will they make it look like mix between Stalin and Bear Grills?
I like the remake version of cloud the best so far.
They nailed the hair. It looks great, just fake enough to be believable
Crash Station
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They might be, which is my point. We know how it looks, but we don't know how it controls. All we can really assume is there is some kind of combo system in place based on the menu going grey during attacks, but even that isn't set in stone. Everything else is speculation.
People are going to be wracking their brains over this until we get more footage.
MissDeviling
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That reminds me: I can't WAIT to see Rufus in the remake.
I like the remake version of cloud the best so far.
The only thing I don't quite like of the remake model is the hair, which looks greasy.
DangerMouse
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Yes. That poster in the FF7R announcement trailer will hopefully be a true tease along with Verendus who's been right about quite a bit.
RevolverRoden
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I hope there's (the same) music during gameplay. Need to hear Cosmo Canyon theme
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
Same. Insanely detailed and true to the Cloud I knew from PS1.I like the remake version of cloud the best so far.
TheGreatDirector
Banned
Ha true but they're clearly going for a similar aesthetic. The whole super soldier aspect of FF7 really never translated well into physical design. Really on Angeal from Crisis Core had a physique that matched that aspect. I'm assuming with Cloud in this remake they are attempting to push him towards a more realistic take on his body while still keeping it stylized. So he's incredibly muscular but very thin making his feats superhuman looking.
RevolverRoden
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They got the hair wrong tbh. OG cloud has his hair all on one side of his head, not even like the remake has it.
Though i'm sure the character models will be tweaked from here til release
fluffydelusions
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Looks sick but I suspect we won't get this for a few more years
Ghost Slayer
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Thanks god Sony don't lock it for PS4 only, everyone deserve to play this masterpiece
Yes, it's masterpiece even i haven't played it, I'm FFVII fanboy so please don't take my words serious :3
NX handheld version that's turn based. Believe.
Nor could an Olympic power-lifter. The sword is a solid block of heavy metal.
Rats Off To Ya
Banned
Midgar's a grimy place.
DragoonKain
Neighbours from Hell
Now that people have pretty much established at this point whether they like or dislike the footage/battle system/gameplay... some follow up questions:
1. For those who are ok with a full-on remake, and them changing a lot, how much change would be too much for you? For example, hypothetically, if they just took certain towns out of the game or something. Like Kalm just wasn't in the game. Or maybe
, or maybe they add some towns that weren't in the game at all. Say they remove or change certain bosses, and changed big chunks of the story. Would you be ok with that? Or do you draw the line eventually?
2. Do you still want materia in the game? How would you implement it?
3. For the towns and locations they do keep the same.... how closely do you want those to the originals? Do you want them just generally the same, or almost carbon copies, just with brand new graphics?
1. For those who are ok with a full-on remake, and them changing a lot, how much change would be too much for you? For example, hypothetically, if they just took certain towns out of the game or something. Like Kalm just wasn't in the game. Or maybe
Aeris dies at another location or in a totally different way
2. Do you still want materia in the game? How would you implement it?
3. For the towns and locations they do keep the same.... how closely do you want those to the originals? Do you want them just generally the same, or almost carbon copies, just with brand new graphics?
Ghost Slayer
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Assuming it's developed on UE4 and SE use help from external developers like CC2, I expect we will see this soon.
DangerMouse
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So I edited and put together a gif out of the two Guard Scorpion scenes. No more confusion allowed :lol
So good.
Nicely done.
KyanMehwulfe
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i'm serious ;p I mean, I don't know exactly what... to quote the great philosopher king trevor philips, "it's sort of like the perfect turd... you don't know what it is, but you'll know it when you see it" lol so i don't know how he's supposed to look closer to the concept art but i do know i wish he did haha
but again, not a big deal, and slight changes can be interesting, too... i'm sort of excited to see how all the shin-ra corp guys look different.
I love this so much.
RevolverRoden
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Nor could an Olympic power-lifter. The sword is a solid block of heavy metal.
Well, the framerate was pretty terrible, so I'm willing to bet all of that gameplay segments were entirely real-time and not target renders.