And there's gonna be another guy who gets her without spending a dime. And it wont be this guy. xD
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Final Fantasy Brave Exvius |OT| Classic sprite-based JRPG goodness [UP] Global launch
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CrimsonSquall
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The thing is, you want people to be spending serious cash on this game. The more $ spent, the more incentive to bring out faster updates to push the meta further
TheChillyAcademic
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spyhunterzero
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Maybe maybe not. I see it as more of message to people here to not set the expectations too high on being able to get top tiers easily.
I know I'm probably going to spend a couple of bucks there and there if I want someone really badly. It's just funny thinking how many hearts will be broken from people saving all of their lapis and tickets (along with the casual players who will spent some money for the first time) for a "chance" to get Lightning not realizing how astronomically low those chances are.
Also, some of the whale threads on Reddit and other places can be pretty funny since they're always reminding us how ashamed or stupid they think they are for spending so much money on one thing while covertly bragging and telling everyone to go screw themselves because they have Lightning and you don't.
As someone who enjoys reading stuff like that, I can't wait for Lightning to get here.
Mobius and pet octopus
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Maybe they think the whales enable the developers to keep the status quo going. I mean, $500 dollars to get a specific character? Most people can't afford that or certainly aren't willing to. But they get away with it because some people can spend that money frivolously.
Frankly, I don't care, but perhaps that is why some do.
Do you mean getting more levels on your units? I would say run Advance experience dungeons and do cactaur whenever it comes back. Eventually you'll need to awaken your units, which I would suggest running INT Awakening material vortex or do some of the exploration dungeons in the second part of the story.
CrimsonSquall
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I'm actually with u on this. It's a slight guilty pleasure seeing people super irate over gacha
BolognaOni
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Maybe it's totally unrealistic in the mobile marketplace, but I'd much rather games not be designed around a small percentage of people spending a large amount of money. The whale-inducing elements are easy to ignore for me, but I just can't help but shake my head and sigh.
As a general rule, vortexes are time efficient, but not energy efficient. Best exp/energy is exploration dungeons, and maxing out encounters.
In general, if you haven't finished the story yet get that done, since most story missions give at least fairly decent rank experience, to get your energy pool up a bit.
TheChillyAcademic
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I would pay cash money for:
6* Ultemicia
6* Shantotto
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6* Ultemicia
6* Shantotto
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BolognaOni
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Probably my biggest source of annoyance with the state of the game on JP right now is the number 6* units that are BE specific filler, while a bunch of the characters I like from FF games are languishing at 4*, which makes them pretty much unusable at this point.
CrimsonSquall
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Just got my Ifrit to 2*!
For anyone looking for GAF mates still add me. Chizuru 303 atk
ID: 442 401 785
For anyone looking for GAF mates still add me. Chizuru 303 atk
ID: 442 401 785
So far I think its better to farm awakening material on exploration, it uses less energy and you can play for as long as you want, eventually also accumulating money and experience. IDK farming vortex just feels too expensive for what it rewards you with. Of course the drop rates might be higher there but still...
TheChillyAcademic
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In all honesty I only farm INT Vortex for Sacred and Holy Crystals. Most everything else can be gotten elsewhere for less energy.
Yes, I guess it was unrealistic to think I could take the Demon Chimera with Chizuru and the group of high four stars - but it almost worked. I think if I get Fina Cheer, I'll have it in the bag. So unfortunately back to the Awakening Vortex I go... any easy way to obtain magic key? I want Barblizzara to go with Barfira and Barthundara
I don't even see the option to buy one anywhere...
I don't even see the option to buy one anywhere...
Wired All Wrong
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Easiest way to get keys is to buy them with Lapis. There should be an option to buy them in the Shop menu. I've read they do become easier to make in JP version, so probably best to not buy a ton of them right now.
Edit: Should be in the Key Exchange option in the shop.
Regarding the talk about Lightning and the other OP characters, here is a thread with some discussion on why they are OP: https://www.reddit.com/r/FFBraveExvius/comments/4t36fo/can_anyone_explain_why_the_top_rated_units_in/
After reading that, given the TMR's I am currently working towards(dual wield, barrage, Ultima and 2 Excaliburs), Orlandu is probably going to be the one I go for.
After reading that, given the TMR's I am currently working towards(dual wield, barrage, Ultima and 2 Excaliburs), Orlandu is probably going to be the one I go for.
Cant you get Sacred Crystals from those cutpurses (or something like that) that are everywhere in Fulan Pass?
BolognaOni
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Drop rate outside of the vortex for sacred crystals is quite low. Int vortex should average around 1 per run.
Wired All Wrong
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If you can do a 2* Esper fight, that's the way to go. 500 rank exp for 15 energy. That's what I've been doing. Before that I was doing Lanzelt Highlands - Summit. That costs 8 energy for 216 rank exp.
Edit: Also, if you've defeated the Demon Chimera you can fight it again in the vortex for 15 energy to get 500 rank exp like 2* esper fights.
Chizuru and Kefka are great, Chizuru specifically. She's the best single-target character in Global right now, and Kefka is the second best Mage (Exdeath being first). Garland is decent too, and both he and Chizuru receive 6* updates in the future (Kefka will likely get his own, as well).
That being said, the rates for Chizuru are horrible. When I was in the process of re-rolling, she was by far the most rare of the banner characters, so if you're going after her specifically, you might have a hard time. If you have decent characters already, it might be worth saving your Lapis/Tickets for a future banner.
Wired All Wrong
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I'd say do a few pulls. Chizuru is the best physical attacker in the global version so far, just be warned that you'll need some luck to get her since her lowest rarity is 4 star so you'll need to pull a gold crystal. Kefka is a great mage and Golbez is good as well and those should be easier to pull since they are a base 3*.
CrimsonSquall
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Throwing weapons suck and you are wasting your time grinding Locke for CoD bc theres a trial with like a +87 mace or whatever coming soon
Shouta
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There is none. It entirely depends on the situation. Lightning wasn't very useful for the Secret of Mana collaboration because, despite having elemental attacks, is only physical based meaning that the Slime in the dungeon you farmed slowed you down.
Another example is the second FFT grind dungeons where Nine was a much more effective character than her because he had demon killer and a low cost but solid damage attack, making it quick to farm, etc. Exdeath wasn't good for that dungeon either because of their magic defense and the high mp cost of his attacks.
The rankings, especially in altema, are done in a vacuum rather than really consider what kind of situation can come. Luneth is probably the best physical attacker but he lacks any sort of magic, utility, and his MP usage can be a rough in a longer fight because Kirikomu (dunno the English name they'll use) is 45 MP.
There's also the fact that most content isn't hard enough that you have to require the top units. Even the hardest fight right now has a special gimmick that some units do better despite being a lower tier one. A great example for the Gilgamesh fight is Chizuru vs Lasswell. Chizuru is the better unit based on the raw numbers but Lasswell beats her in the Gilgamesh fight because he has the ability to hit multiple elements to seal his attacks off, something she can't do.
What were you trying to do?
What's the problem with throwing weapons, is there a downside? I just suggested that as the mace you are talking about is about 4 trial bosses away which could be a few months wait.
CrimsonSquall
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Wow this is actually fantastic insight as to what's to come. Based off a lot of general impressions, people have been making it sound like they are only making the bosses geared towards strictly physical beasts.
It really seems like they are actually creating versatile dungeons not just for the bosses but for enemies as well making this an actual thought provoking turn based game. Thanks for this, makes me feel better moving forward if I pull some nuanced units
EDIT:^ I shouldn't have said soon but I don't think it's worth it to pul for Locke, but even for TM most people can't equip throwinf weapons and time is better spent getting weapons like excalibur due to passive boosts to those type of swords on characters
creid
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I'm looking for something I can win with auto-attack.
Shouta
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I mean, it's farming for currency to get items so it's not strenuous or anything but there is a bit of thought in how to efficiently do it considering the situation. The SoM one was best with Magic attackers using Ice spells while the FFT grind was better with demon killers and single target attacks.
The exploration type dungeons require full parties and different strategies depending on the boss.
The exploration type dungeons require full parties and different strategies depending on the boss.
Well, I am moving on with the game, because I am tired of grinding the vortex. I'll just awaken Fina and Kefka for now, and the others can wait a day or two. I should be able to get through Wolfsfang Peak without too much issue - Chizuru can carry the team. It just might take awhile to get there...
Wired All Wrong
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Lanzelt Highlands - Summit would be the one to do. Not sure what your party is, but that one you should be able to auto-attack.
Nothing in particular, just trying to get the useful TM's. I saved most of my FP during the 2 week event so I wouldn't get Cactuars and turtles.
creid
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Yeah, I can get through it easily. Thanks!
Yeah if you want to get ready for 6 star upgrades.
Nomidor(sorry forgot your neogaf name) Your fucking Kefka is fucking ridiculous. 2 x 30% magic boost, ribbon, meteor. Good lord!
I really hope the new Espers at least one more high attack stats like Ifrit.
I'm only going to raise Ifrit and Shiva since they are more useful than the other two.
I really hope the new Espers at least one more high attack stats like Ifrit.
6* upgrades? What do you mean? Just boosting their strengths or are Hero Rings required as Materials?
No, in the future you can awake some top tier players to 6 star. That is when their base stats raises too, so it will make the hero rings worth more to a physical attacker.
Read the list below to see which units can be awaken to future 6 star units.
https://exviuswiki.com/Unit_Rankings
Squall ASF
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I've been trying to accept Nomidor's FR for days but he's always full ;P
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