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Final Fantasy Brave Exvius |OT| Classic sprite-based JRPG goodness [UP] Global launch
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The problem I see with Firion is that you really want 2 strong weapons of different types to stack different masterys. So dual wield excalibur is fine but for example Excalibur + Kaiser knuckles is better. And I dont have a good different weapon to give him, never pulled a Xiao or Kain thats why im not bothering with him much right now. Focusing on Chizuru.
Theres a way to set up macros on phones. Ive never done it but there are tutorials around.
DrROBschiz
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Well I have been playing the event and is a pain in the... Ainsel has kill me like four times decide to use lapis in the first to resurrect my units but after that I said screw it.
My pulls have been awful Galuf, Kain and Vivi...
By the way I equip my Lock with Baraerora if someone wants to use it.
.n_n.
My pulls have been awful Galuf, Kain and Vivi...
By the way I equip my Lock with Baraerora if someone wants to use it.
.n_n.
Do you have a Iphone or Ipad?
I use switch controls for TM grinding that I can show you how to set up.
I just let it run while I do other things and come back to a bunch of trust. It's also pretty rad to be able to just have it run in your pocket and not be reliant on a PC.
DrROBschiz
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Yeah i pretty much have to use my best team to farm Ainsel so it basically negates the XP benefits
Though you do get a guaranteed cactuar so you always walk away with 30k
Either way if you Have the time to commit its not a bad event.
You just have to choose between farming ainsel or farming xp
DrROBschiz
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Is their an android tutorial
I have a tablet that i could run trusts overnight
I have a tablet that i could run trusts overnight
NP.
I'll take some screenshots and write up a step by step to PM you. The nice thing about the Ipad, is that you can't accidentally start calling random ass people!
Just give me a bit; I'm currently trying to burn through my TM energy atm.
If you could send that to me as well I would really appreciate it. I keep accumulating Shantoto's who sit there looking lonely...
Got Xiao from daily summon.
Think I could use her in my team for a Physical Hitter.
Cecil+ExD+Lenna+Kefka+Xiao(currently using Golbez)
Xiao TM seems better than Golbez.
Since the 250 gems pull are staying, guess we should skip it.
Think I should consider using Nox, anyone can link a tutorial on where to start?
Think I could use her in my team for a Physical Hitter.
Cecil+ExD+Lenna+Kefka+Xiao(currently using Golbez)
Xiao TM seems better than Golbez.
Since the 250 gems pull are staying, guess we should skip it.
Think I should consider using Nox, anyone can link a tutorial on where to start?
No sorry, I can't =[
Scarlet once took a knife for me in a bad bar brawl so I owe him one and this is my way of repaying the debt.
I'm just going to post it in this thread so no worries.
Well, I've had it - need a break. Pulled that whore Lani with my half price pull - there's a big surprise. Going to run Andy the rest of the weekend. I almost have enough stones for two HP+15%, but this morning I just don't care. I'm going to TMR farm most of the day, but I'm getting burnt out with this game. The pull rates are so much garbage I don't want to bother anymore. Apparently I pulled another POS unit yesterday when it crashed. I told customer service, thanks but keep your POS unit - I don't want it.
I'll let it run today on autopilot, inching toward TMR at a snail's pace as usual. Log in and get dailies, but that is probably all. Business trip coming up - probably at a good time. You guys have a nice weekend!
I'll let it run today on autopilot, inching toward TMR at a snail's pace as usual. Log in and get dailies, but that is probably all. Business trip coming up - probably at a good time. You guys have a nice weekend!
DrROBschiz
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This cpuld all be avoided if they took the time to give every unit some legit utility
Lani is almost completely worthless. The equip weapon materias should just be quest rewards i mean c'mon
It doesnt help that Lani doesnt have anything else to offer her team.
And fucking Shadow and the entire Ninja class in general should be looked at and reworked
That said i love my Locke and even though he isnt top tier he has loads of utility
Is this the next banner?
One can dream...
Yes, over half or more of the units have no purpose from what I can tell. Other than to make it harder to pull something decent. The rates are apparently total garbage - shouldn't be too hard to pull a decent three star, but they all definitely do not have equal rates. If it hadn't been for the decent rerolling to start, most people would probably have quit by now.
I'm going to abuse the crap out of the system, running TMR on auto-pilot all day. Could care less if they figure it out at this point. If they wanted to improve the game, they'd remove Sabin, Shadow, Penelo, and Lani from the pull list. Everything about those units is truly worthless. At least the loser Galuf doesn't have a worthless TMR, though it comes close. Instead, I've done enough rerolling on both servers to know the rates for those POS is definitely boosted, especially on Penelo and Lani - every third unit in Japan is one of those two. Why? Because they have absolutely no value at all...
And I'm not putting a dime into this from now on until things improve. Which they won't. Hopefully, I can build up enough lapis so that I can pull off the next banner, but I'm probably only doing 1/2 price pulls from now on. I figure soon will need at least ten pulls for one decent unit. Like Gumi wants. Not a good unit you can actually use, just decent. Something that doesn't just make you want to up and quit the game.
I'm going to abuse the crap out of the system, running TMR on auto-pilot all day. Could care less if they figure it out at this point. If they wanted to improve the game, they'd remove Sabin, Shadow, Penelo, and Lani from the pull list. Everything about those units is truly worthless. At least the loser Galuf doesn't have a worthless TMR, though it comes close. Instead, I've done enough rerolling on both servers to know the rates for those POS is definitely boosted, especially on Penelo and Lani - every third unit in Japan is one of those two. Why? Because they have absolutely no value at all...
And I'm not putting a dime into this from now on until things improve. Which they won't. Hopefully, I can build up enough lapis so that I can pull off the next banner, but I'm probably only doing 1/2 price pulls from now on. I figure soon will need at least ten pulls for one decent unit. Like Gumi wants. Not a good unit you can actually use, just decent. Something that doesn't just make you want to up and quit the game.
I haven't really been following much, what's the point of the current event?
I went through it, did some sparkly point bosses and the area boss, and didn't really see that much of importance?
The problem is that kind of stuff is always a problem with mobile games. They do want you to spend money, after all.
I think the best you can hope for while playing f2p is just get a fairly solid team that can beat content, and not worry about owning all the heroes. I was rather disappointed I didn't get WoL in the, idk 20-30 pulls I did, with the lapis I'd saved up. It's not the end of the world though, I've still got a team which can eat through things.
I've also gotten to a point where I'm not bothering with the grinding as much. I just can't be bothered really.
I went through it, did some sparkly point bosses and the area boss, and didn't really see that much of importance?
The problem is that kind of stuff is always a problem with mobile games. They do want you to spend money, after all.
I think the best you can hope for while playing f2p is just get a fairly solid team that can beat content, and not worry about owning all the heroes. I was rather disappointed I didn't get WoL in the, idk 20-30 pulls I did, with the lapis I'd saved up. It's not the end of the world though, I've still got a team which can eat through things.
I've also gotten to a point where I'm not bothering with the grinding as much. I just can't be bothered really.
TheChillyAcademic
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Half price pull...Luna. Again.
Again, could be worse. COULD BE BETTER BUT
And CCIE you know how this game is. You know you have a stable of fantastic units and that you're one pul away from something great. I had roughly 16 pulls of ABSOLUTE SHIT yesterday before I got Kuja and Zidane, still haven't managed to get a Lani though >.>
And Scarlet you SLUT get a Mac or PC...
Yesterday night.
Again, could be worse. COULD BE BETTER BUT
And CCIE you know how this game is. You know you have a stable of fantastic units and that you're one pul away from something great. I had roughly 16 pulls of ABSOLUTE SHIT yesterday before I got Kuja and Zidane, still haven't managed to get a Lani though >.>
And Scarlet you SLUT get a Mac or PC...
Yesterday night.
I'm guessing you're refilling your energy?
Just keep doing to for the trophies.
We still Friends.
TheChillyAcademic
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BAHAHAHAHAH
Had to do some spring cleaning, add away if we aren't already friends!
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Lyrian
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Ahh, but that's the point of this entire side project. Can something be done about that? You are completely correct when you note that at a surface level, summons can only be casted rather infrequently.
The first phase of the project was to determine if the potential magnitude of summoning damage output was worthinvesting time and energy in pursuing. The answer here, while not complete yet, appears to be "yes".
So, that would eventually bring on Phase 2. As I said earlier, Phase 2 is going to take a really long time to implement, so I wanted to be sure that the potential payout was worth the effort. I've got ideas on how to speed the process up considerably, but the success on that will vary depending on whether I can pull certain units or not.
In the long run, yes, you will always be able to cast on turn 1, while at the barest minimum, summoning will require a wait until turn 2.
chrono01 said:
In all of the many dumpster fires on Reddit yesterday (rofl over the petitions for change.org and the BBB over bad gacha rates), someone actually posted a logical analysis of why the rates are so bad based on JP published rates, which makes perfect sense.
On any given banner, there is a 30% chance to pull a banner unit.
That 30% is split between 5% for rare banner units and 25% for common banner units.
In global, to date before this banner, every banner was 1 rare and 2 commons. (4* rare pulls appear to have half rates [so 2.5%], with the other 2.5% being distributed to the other common banner cards.
The problem in this banner is that as far as the game is concerned, there are three rare banner cards in the gacha [Zidane, Amarant, Kuja]. As all 3 of them are 3* base, the 5% rare pull rate is distributed among them. Thus, each of them is expected to have about a 1.67% pull rate. The common banner percentage draw is purely then distributed between Lani and Vivi, which means that each of them has a 12.5% chance of being pulled.
So, in actuality,
Odds of pulling Zidane, Kuja, or Amarant specifically: 1 in 60
Odds of pulling any rare banner unit: 1 in 20
Odds of pulling Lani or Vivi: 1 in 4.
Yes, sir or madam, this is what we call a trap. As most have said, worst banner to date.
yeah, using my lapi in fastening my grinding than summoning kryles, lanis and shadows.
I have 2010's iMac. Not sure if it works well, and I'm too lazy looking for tutorial.
AdawgDaFAB
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Fought Ainsel for the first time and she absolutely wrecked me.
5* 66 Chizuru, 5* 53 Firion, 5* 59 Vaan, 5* 62 Kefka, 4* 53 Lenna, Friend 5* 80 Chizuru.
5* 66 Chizuru, 5* 53 Firion, 5* 59 Vaan, 5* 62 Kefka, 4* 53 Lenna, Friend 5* 80 Chizuru.
You need an armour break to be able to do decent damage - Full Break is obviously the best, but if not that then De-protect or at least Armour break. Magic Break also helps if you can get it from someone.
TheChillyAcademic
Member
I would be interested to see the actual hard data on damage comparisons via other AOE damage, phys, mag or otherwise.
So I was rather fortunate with my pulls, despite the 3* rating. People are going to loose their fucking MINDS during the FFT and Lightning Banners arent they?
Lyrian
Member
Give or take, at the "once a month" JP schedule, Global becomes due for the fourth island next weekend (end of August).
TheChillyAcademic
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WAT
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How is this possible? Dawg max those units! Vaan with full break is all you need!
The problem is that every character should have some redeeming quality. Any four star max unit is essentially GARBAGE in a few months, so they at least need a carrot. A decent TMR. And three star units should all have the same pull rates. 4* base the same, etc, etc... Do you know I have pulled Japan all week long, enough to know a few things... Somewhere between 5-10 AM PST is the only time rates are decent for the premium units. I've pulled at one time or another every unit in the game with the exception of one. I can't wait for the meltdowns with Lightning. I've done close to 2000 pulls to see what is out there in Japan to date, and I haven't seen her yet. The odds for her will be astronomical lottery type odds in Global.
The boosted material rates for events, horrible daily rewards (check out the dailies in Japan for reference). I work as technical support for sales, so I know what I'm talking about. You have to give something to make people want to spend. My FL has people that are quitting at an alarming rate, as I cleaned out ten people who haven't logged in since Monday.
Every PREMIUM pull should have 5* capability, even if they suck. As for spending money, I have every mobile game Square has made, and I've spent $50 on this one so far. If they want me to spend more, they are going to have to try a little harder...
I have the money to spend.
The boosted material rates for events, horrible daily rewards (check out the dailies in Japan for reference). I work as technical support for sales, so I know what I'm talking about. You have to give something to make people want to spend. My FL has people that are quitting at an alarming rate, as I cleaned out ten people who haven't logged in since Monday.
Every PREMIUM pull should have 5* capability, even if they suck. As for spending money, I have every mobile game Square has made, and I've spent $50 on this one so far. If they want me to spend more, they are going to have to try a little harder...
I have the money to spend.
Lyrian
Member
In the long run, that would be an interesting analysis, for curiosity's sake. Might give that a try for giggles once I finish leveling up all the espers.
You were quite fortunate. Considering the expected 1 in 60 odds for each of Zidane and Kuja, an average person would required 120 rolls to have a 50% chance of acquiring both of them. So, yeah, lottery tier there.
Hate to say it, but that was probably your Emperor roll right there. Hopefully some "charged electrical energy" will happen again in the future when it comes time to roll for him.
Yeah, and people will. The Lightning banner will make this one look generous. Using the logic above, my odds for Garnet are going to be very, very bad. It is safe to assume that Freyja will be considered a rare unit on that banner, as well as possibly others. The odds of me pulling Garnet are going to be bad as Zidane, if not outright worse.
Lyrian
Member
Oh... fun fact time.
On a banner roll, if you roll the 70% chance to miss the banner (or you roll the rare summon banner directly), there is a 5 in 6 chance of pulling either a 3* garbage card or 4* gold awakened version of said garbage card. (83.2% total chance based on published JP rates)
Good luck with that!
Source JP Spreadsheet from Reddit
On a banner roll, if you roll the 70% chance to miss the banner (or you roll the rare summon banner directly), there is a 5 in 6 chance of pulling either a 3* garbage card or 4* gold awakened version of said garbage card. (83.2% total chance based on published JP rates)
Good luck with that!
Source JP Spreadsheet from Reddit
This game need a rolling gacha, like the Japanese version of Record Keeper.
When you pull on a banner and don't get a rainbow crystal, you get slightly more chances to have one next time, each time until you get a 5* unit where it reset.
But then the game wouldn't be in top 10 grossing games in Japan when there's a big event like the July FF Type-0 one.
When you pull on a banner and don't get a rainbow crystal, you get slightly more chances to have one next time, each time until you get a 5* unit where it reset.
But then the game wouldn't be in top 10 grossing games in Japan when there's a big event like the July FF Type-0 one.
so now i understand the whole summon rate fiasco of this banner:
To understand this, you must look at this table, there it is the NORMAL pull rate of each unit of JPBE (that it looks like is the same in global), and you can see the rate of "crap" 3star units and "premium" 3star units
when you summon up in a rates up banner, the system have 2 options:
30% chance of choose units of featured pool
70% chance of choose units of non-featured pool
If NRG chooses the 70% option, is like a normal summon and you are fucked.
If NRG chooses the 30% option, of the table i put before, you have that vivi and lani are normal units with a 12,5% chance of summon, so both have 25% of summoning. That makes left 5% for Zidane, Kuja and Amarant (1,67%)
If Vivi and Lani hasnt been in the banner, that 30% have been splited between only zidane, kuja and amarant, with a 10% for each one... but we all know that gumi put those 2 units for that effect on porpuse.
Now lets look on the past banner (WoL, Tellah, Lenna)
If NRG gives you a 30% chance, and you get a blue crystal, you cant get WoL, so chances are only Lenna and Tellah, so is 15% for each one (the numbers matches)
But if you get a yellow crystal, the table i posted shows that the chance of getting a base 4star is like 2,7% , leaving the rest 27,3% split in lenna and tellah, 13,65% each (the numbers still match)
Take that in mind in the future, lesson learned for me. I think Dragner posted something like this before, but now i understand this very clearly now xD
Lesson of the day: dont pull if the rates have common units in it, because those units fuck the rates very badly.
This banner is already fucked because vivi and lani, dont summon.
To understand this, you must look at this table, there it is the NORMAL pull rate of each unit of JPBE (that it looks like is the same in global), and you can see the rate of "crap" 3star units and "premium" 3star units
when you summon up in a rates up banner, the system have 2 options:
30% chance of choose units of featured pool
70% chance of choose units of non-featured pool
If NRG chooses the 70% option, is like a normal summon and you are fucked.
If NRG chooses the 30% option, of the table i put before, you have that vivi and lani are normal units with a 12,5% chance of summon, so both have 25% of summoning. That makes left 5% for Zidane, Kuja and Amarant (1,67%)
If Vivi and Lani hasnt been in the banner, that 30% have been splited between only zidane, kuja and amarant, with a 10% for each one... but we all know that gumi put those 2 units for that effect on porpuse.
Now lets look on the past banner (WoL, Tellah, Lenna)
If NRG gives you a 30% chance, and you get a blue crystal, you cant get WoL, so chances are only Lenna and Tellah, so is 15% for each one (the numbers matches)
But if you get a yellow crystal, the table i posted shows that the chance of getting a base 4star is like 2,7% , leaving the rest 27,3% split in lenna and tellah, 13,65% each (the numbers still match)
Take that in mind in the future, lesson learned for me. I think Dragner posted something like this before, but now i understand this very clearly now xD
Lesson of the day: dont pull if the rates have common units in it, because those units fuck the rates very badly.
This banner is already fucked because vivi and lani, dont summon.
AdawgDaFAB
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That's what I'm trying to do with this event!
I agree with this every 'FF' unit should be 5* right off the bat, how is that Vivi cant learn high level magic when in 9 he has massive magic power and can throw every single damaging spell and even has some exclusive ones....and here he has...comet? wtf.
How come Zidane wield 2 daggers and yet don't learn dual wield
maybe at 6*!
Final Fantasy 6 and 9 cast really REALLY need their awakening update, Vivi, Edgar maybe one more max 4* should get a 5* too.
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