In the long run, that would be an interesting analysis, for curiosity's sake. Might give that a try for giggles once I finish leveling up all the espers.
You were quite fortunate. Considering the expected 1 in 60 odds for each of Zidane and Kuja, an average person would required 120 rolls to have a 50% chance of acquiring both of them. So, yeah, lottery tier there.
Hate to say it, but that was probably your Emperor roll right there. Hopefully some "charged electrical energy" will happen again in the future when it comes time to roll for him.
so now i understand the whole summon rate fiasco of this banner:
To understand this, you must look at this table, there it is the NORMAL pull rate of each unit of JPBE (that it looks like is the same in global), and you can see the rate of "crap" 3star units and "premium" 3star units
when you summon up in a rates up banner, the system have 2 options:
30% chance of choose units of featured pool
70% chance of choose units of non-featured pool
If NRG chooses the 70% option, is like a normal summon and you are fucked.
If NRG chooses the 30% option, of the table i put before, you have that vivi and lani are normal units with a 12,5% chance of summon, so both have 25% of summoning. That makes left 5% for Zidane, Kuja and Amarant (1,67%)
If Vivi and Lani hasnt been in the banner, that 30% have been splited between only zidane, kuja and amarant, with a 10% for each one... but we all know that gumi put those 2 units for that effect on porpuse.
Now lets look on the past banner (WoL, Tellah, Lenna)
If NRG gives you a 30% chance, and you get a blue crystal, you cant get WoL, so chances are only Lenna and Tellah, so is 15% for each one (the numbers matches)
But if you get a yellow crystal, the table i posted shows that the chance of getting a base 4star is like 2,7% , leaving the rest 27,3% split in lenna and tellah, 13,65% each (the numbers still match)
Take that in mind in the future, lesson learned for me. I think Dragner posted something like this before, but now i understand this very clearly now xD
Lesson of the day: dont pull if the rates have common units in it, because those units fuck the rates very badly.
This banner is already fucked because vivi and lani, dont summon.
That's correct.
The problem, I believe, is that I think for the most part there will be at least one common unit in every banner going forward to screw with the draw rates of desired units. The situation gets even worse once 5* base units are added to the equation.
So I have, going off of the statistics, a 0.04705% chance of pulling the emperor.
Well, I'm sure that he will get that "huge" 10x chance to being pulled on banner to equate to that ~0.5% (1 in 200) chance that most 5* base units have.
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I'm not sure there can be a common unit on most banners. But we will see.
Isnt Arc Rod one of the best of the game, apart of emperor's rod?
im totally fine of getting 5 arcs lol xD
....Dammit, 2 of my cecils sums 100% in total.... THE TEMPTATION IS TOO BIG!!!
Okey Dokey. So this guide is Trust Mastery grinding for IOS devices only. If you have any questions, just post in the thread since I forget to check PM's all the time.
First things first, I don't know if this is frowned upon by Gumi, but I have my reservations. This method uses the switch controls that are inherently part of the IOS so it doesn't require any outside applications. Also, if migrating data to an IOS device, make note that the Lapis will not transfer over (it's not lost but in order to use them, you'll need to migrate back to an Android device.)
1. Go into SETTINGS.
2. Go into GENERAL.
3. Go into ACCESSIBILITY.
4. From here click SWITCH CONTROLS which is under INTERACTIONS
It gets a little technical here.
5. Inside the SWITCH CONTROL menu you will need to make a NEW Switch by clicking SWITCHES and then ADD NEW SWITCH...
6. Here you want to choose SCREEN for your Switch and choose FULL SCREEN next. This allows the entirety of the screen to be used as a singular "button" to perform a set command we will make shortly.
7. You should now be in ACTIONS. This allows us to dictate the way in which the switch is activated.
8. Choose TAP which is under SYSTEM (this is personal preference but IMO the easiest and most effective way to use switch controls)
9. Now you want to go back to SWITCH CONTROL and click RECIPE and then CREATE NEW RECIPE...
10. Name your new recipe (I named mine FFBE) and click on ASSIGN A SWITCH.
11. Click on FULLSCREEN for the switch which should prompt you to select an ACTION. From here choose CUSTOM GESTURE. You're pretty much done now.
CUSTOM GESTURES is hard to explain typed up so WATCH THIS VIDEO.
Now you should be all set. All you need to do now is open FFBE, go into the page where you choose Earth Shrine level select , triple click your home button, and keep tapping the middle of the screen for a minute and walk away. You're done.
Hi guys! Been playing this game 2 or 3 weeks and loving it
Started to level/awake my team of Bartz/Garland/WoL/Lenna/Kefka, but pulled a 5* Vaan this morning, so Garland makes an early exit.
I love that this game at no point forces me to spend money. Much fun
Hi guys! Been playing this game 2 or 3 weeks and loving it
Started to level/awake my team of Bartz/Garland/WoL/Lenna/Kefka, but pulled a 5* Vaan this morning, so Garland makes an early exit.
I love that this game at no point forces me to spend money. Much fun
Relax CCIE, I know them feels. My sl account is still using laswell and rain because the other 40+ pulls have been crap outside of getting lucky and getting a Chizuru last banner.The rates are apparently total garbage
What about the dragon scale? I'm going to try to farm enough for at least four hp+ 15%I agree, still a bit more until my team is maxed, already made a HP+15% and already have about 30 pure stones.
Not looking forward to the light megacryst farm though x)
I already have 50 of those, I will see later how much I'll need.What about the dragon scale? I'm going to try to farm enough for at least four hp+ 15%
This morning I pulled a shadow and Edgar, which is probably at least my tenth one for each. Sabin loves me too.
welcome to the club pal.
WoL and Vaan both have full break, so it kind of redundant having both in the party. You should keep garland in the team.
So I should stay with Bartz/Garland/WoL/Lenna/Kefka?
Will Blade Mastery, Doublehand, and Dual Wield all stack?
I kind of want to farm those three and put it on Chiz.
need about 20 sacred crystals, where's the best place to farm?
Double hand and dual wield don't.
Int awakening vortex
GRATS Dawg!!!!
Thanks! I'm not terribly interested in Garland's 5* (since my current roster list is strong right now), but I am really excited for his 6* awakening. I've read some very good things, so I can't wait to try them out.Yup, def done for now - as a f2p i just cant burn all my resources at this point considering what units we are still awaiting. The current banner sucks, especially considering we just had WoL/Lenna and Tellah.
Also they way Gumi is manipulating and handling the rates...i feel their main goal right now is to get us to waste our orbs before they drop Lightning and co.
Just hope to get a random Zidane pull in the next months while pulling on more worthwhile banner.
PS. Congrats to Garland - he is powerful yet still underrated in 5* form imo...but his 6* will be a beast, those lovely AoE attacks.
I can completely understand your frustration.Yes, over half or more of the units have no purpose from what I can tell. Other than to make it harder to pull something decent. The rates are apparently total garbage - shouldn't be too hard to pull a decent three star, but they all definitely do not have equal rates. If it hadn't been for the decent rerolling to start, most people would probably have quit by now.
I'm going to abuse the crap out of the system, running TMR on auto-pilot all day. Could care less if they figure it out at this point. If they wanted to improve the game, they'd remove Sabin, Shadow, Penelo, and Lani from the pull list. Everything about those units is truly worthless. At least the loser Galuf doesn't have a worthless TMR, though it comes close. Instead, I've done enough rerolling on both servers to know the rates for those POS is definitely boosted, especially on Penelo and Lani - every third unit in Japan is one of those two. Why? Because they have absolutely no value at all...
And I'm not putting a dime into this from now on until things improve. Which they won't. Hopefully, I can build up enough lapis so that I can pull off the next banner, but I'm probably only doing 1/2 price pulls from now on. I figure soon will need at least ten pulls for one decent unit. Like Gumi wants. Not a good unit you can actually use, just decent. Something that doesn't just make you want to up and quit the game.
In all of the many dumpster fires on Reddit yesterday (rofl over the petitions for change.org and the BBB over bad gacha rates), someone actually posted a logical analysis of why the rates are so bad based on JP published rates, which makes perfect sense.
On any given banner, there is a 30% chance to pull a banner unit.
That 30% is split between 5% for rare banner units and 25% for common banner units.
In global, to date before this banner, every banner was 1 rare and 2 commons. (4* rare pulls appear to have half rates [so 2.5%], with the other 2.5% being distributed to the other common banner cards.
The problem in this banner is that as far as the game is concerned, there are three rare banner cards in the gacha [Zidane, Amarant, Kuja]. As all 3 of them are 3* base, the 5% rare pull rate is distributed among them. Thus, each of them is expected to have about a 1.67% pull rate. The common banner percentage draw is purely then distributed between Lani and Vivi, which means that each of them has a 12.5% chance of being pulled.
So, in actuality,
Odds of pulling Zidane, Kuja, or Amarant specifically: 1 in 60
Odds of pulling any rare banner unit: 1 in 20
Odds of pulling Lani or Vivi: 1 in 4.
Yes, sir or madam, this is what we call a trap. As most have said, worst banner to date.
This is really interesting (and depressing). :/so now i understand the whole summon rate fiasco of this banner:
To understand this, you must look at this table, there it is the NORMAL pull rate of each unit of JPBE (that it looks like is the same in global), and you can see the rate of "crap" 3star units and "premium" 3star units
when you summon up in a rates up banner, the system have 2 options:
30% chance of choose units of featured pool
70% chance of choose units of non-featured pool
If NRG chooses the 70% option, is like a normal summon and you are fucked.
If NRG chooses the 30% option, of the table i put before, you have that vivi and lani are normal units with a 12,5% chance of summon, so both have 25% of summoning. That makes left 5% for Zidane, Kuja and Amarant (1,67%)
If Vivi and Lani hasnt been in the banner, that 30% have been splited between only zidane, kuja and amarant, with a 10% for each one... but we all know that gumi put those 2 units for that effect on porpuse.
Now lets look on the past banner (WoL, Tellah, Lenna)
If NRG gives you a 30% chance, and you get a blue crystal, you cant get WoL, so chances are only Lenna and Tellah, so is 15% for each one (the numbers matches)
But if you get a yellow crystal, the table i posted shows that the chance of getting a base 4star is like 2,7% , leaving the rest 27,3% split in lenna and tellah, 13,65% each (the numbers still match)
Take that in mind in the future, lesson learned for me. I think Dragner posted something like this before, but now i understand this very clearly now xD
Lesson of the day: dont pull if the rates have common units in it, because those units fuck the rates very badly.
This banner is already fucked because vivi and lani, dont summon.
Thanks for this. I'm not sure if I'll bother, but it's nice to know regardless!Okey Dokey. So this guide is Trust Mastery grinding for IOS devices only. If you have any questions, just post in the thread since I forget to check PM's all the time.
First things first, I don't know if this is frowned upon by Gumi, but I have my reservations. This method uses the switch controls that are inherently part of the IOS so it doesn't require any outside applications. Also, if migrating data to an IOS device, make note that the Lapis will not transfer over (it's not lost but in order to use them, you'll need to migrate back to an Android device.)
1. Go into SETTINGS.
2. Go into GENERAL.
3. Go into ACCESSIBILITY.
4. From here click SWITCH CONTROLS which is under INTERACTIONS
It gets a little technical here.
5. Inside the SWITCH CONTROL menu you will need to make a NEW Switch by clicking SWITCHES and then ADD NEW SWITCH...
6. Here you want to choose SCREEN for your Switch and choose FULL SCREEN next. This allows the entirety of the screen to be used as a singular "button" to perform a set command we will make shortly.
7. You should now be in ACTIONS. This allows us to dictate the way in which the switch is activated.
8. Choose TAP which is under SYSTEM (this is personal preference but IMO the easiest and most effective way to use switch controls)
9. Now you want to go back to SWITCH CONTROL and click RECIPE and then CREATE NEW RECIPE...
10. Name your new recipe (I named mine FFBE) and click on ASSIGN A SWITCH.
11. Click on FULLSCREEN for the switch which should prompt you to select an ACTION. From here choose CUSTOM GESTURE. You're pretty much done now.
CUSTOM GESTURES is hard to explain typed up so WATCH THIS VIDEO.
Now you should be all set. All you need to do now is open FFBE, go into the page where you choose Earth Shrine level select , triple click your home button, and keep tapping the middle of the screen for a minute and walk away. You're done.
Awakening Vortex (INT) is the best.need about 20 sacred crystals, where's the best place to farm?
Congrats!Finally.
Finally.
Int awakening vortex
GRATS Dawg!!!!
Congrats!
congrats mang!
Thanks guys, I feel like I beat the game now. At least for now.
It also makes me feel a little better after I spent all my tickets a few hours ago and only got Penelo, Kain, Edgar, Vivi and Fran
Lani is such a bad kit and TM. If she had at least a useful TM or if there was a TM that made hers useful, then it'd be OK to get her during a pull but that's not the case. Even Penelo's Equip Dagger TM is now useful in JP thanks to the Cowboy Knife!
I'm so glad I spent the time grinding for that knife. Getting Dual-Wield innately on a weapon like that is too good.
That is a grinder or whale....trolling. JeebusOk guys, which one of you is the one with the artemios with 2 excaliburs equiped?
Ok guys, which one of you is the one with the artemios with 2 excaliburs equiped?
So I haven't filled in any part of my Espers skill trees yet...
Since I've read you can't fill everything out (at least, until they receive a 3* update), is it recommended to build towards the strength of each one (so ATK/HP for Ifrit, MAG/SPR for Shiva/Siren/Ramuh, HP/DEF for Golem, etc.)? I know I should grab the skills as a priority, I'm just not sure where to go beyond that. Also, I think I remember reading that you can't even grab all of the skills for a few? If so, which should I avoid? I'm worried about getting myself stuck in a situation where I can't grab something I really want. >_<
So I haven't filled in any part of my Espers skill trees yet...
Since I've read you can't fill everything out (at least, until they receive a 3* update), is it recommended to build towards the strength of each one (so ATK/HP for Ifrit, MAG/SPR for Shiva/Siren/Ramuh, HP/DEF for Golem, etc.)? I know I should grab the skills as a priority, I'm just not sure where to go beyond that. Also, I think I remember reading that you can't even grab all of the skills for a few? If so, which should I avoid? I'm worried about getting myself stuck in a situation where I can't grab something I really want. >_<
You pretty much want the skills. You get sch marginal benefits from stats. Like 100+ at will equal +1 to character.
Thanks you two, I appreciate it.Dont grab stats, they are worthless because 1% of atk+30 are.... 0.3? xD
Siren: you can get the dances.... most of the skills are most outclassed, dont worry too much.
Ifrit: Beast Slayer, Plant Slayer, and Rage Fists are much necessary. Dont worry much about the rest.
Golem: Stone slayer, insect slayer, provoke and cover.
Shiva: ????????????????????????? Blizzara????? All of her skills are outclassed. You use shiva for her stats more of all.
Ramuh: Osmose is mandatory. dont care the rest. Maybe Dispel.
So I haven't filled in any part of my Espers skill trees yet...
Since I've read you can't fill everything out (at least, until they receive a 3* update), is it recommended to build towards the strength of each one (so ATK/HP for Ifrit, MAG/SPR for Shiva/Siren/Ramuh, HP/DEF for Golem, etc.)? I know I should grab the skills as a priority, I'm just not sure where to go beyond that. Also, I think I remember reading that you can't even grab all of the skills for a few? If so, which should I avoid? I'm worried about getting myself stuck in a situation where I can't grab something I really want. >_<
You're correct. An old man who shoots lightning probably doesn't need much strength.It's pretty straight forward lol
Certain skills you can miss of course but why the fuck would you prioritize str on Ramuh etc etc