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Final Fantasy Brave Exvius |OT| Classic sprite-based JRPG goodness [UP] Global launch

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Gaz_RB

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Because its actually fun, despite the BS that Gumi is pulling? I derive my fun from making teams work that should have no possibility of succeeding (at least in the opinion of the hivemind on Reddit) and playing characters that I actually liked from previous FF games.

Yeah dude I'm with you. My team has Fran and Vivi because I love them, idgaf. Haven't really had any trouble with content.
 

Zalasta

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Maybe I am just paranoid, but....

I do Awakening mats grinds whenever I don't feel like leveling and I would get 1 Sacred Crystal at least 95% of the time and maybe a Holy Crystal once every 4-5 runs, some times it was zero but then other times I would get 2-3 a run. I have done 7 runs today and have gotten 2 Sacred Crystals total. And they were in the same run.

Now, seems fishy considering just today they put a paid chest (6.99) that includes 5 Sacred Crystals...

Again, maybe I am just paranoid...but...

A little late but for me it sure felt like they've nerfed the SC drop. I used to get 2-4 very often, but during the past week the two days I did Awakening I've gotten a lot of 0's, and have never seen a run with more than 2.
 

Rixa

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Do we ever get a high dmg Dagger?

JP just got Dagger that has dualwield. So there is use for Penelos TM...
A little late but for me it sure felt like they've nerfed the SC drop. I used to get 2-4 very often, but during the past week the two days I did Awakening I've gotten a lot of 0's, and have never seen a run with more than 2.

Nope, just rng. Yesterday & today made some INT runs and almost every run got atleast 1 SC sometimes more than one.
 

CCIE

Banned
It will be interesting to see who is still here in a month... Reddit isn't even raging, they are laughing. Apparently harder to pull Garnett than Lightning with this banner
 

Azuran

Banned
Is this a fucking joke???????????????



now if you got a blue crystal, you got even less chance of getting a zidane, because freya was added.

25% of vivi and lani
5% / 4 = 1,25 % of getting or a zidane/kuja/amarant/freya

And if you got a yellow crystal, the chances of getting a garnet could be like.... 0,4%?

Dont pull, really, even the 250 lapi, this is a scam, even the 250 lapi summon is a scam.

LMAO they're not even trying to hide their blatant trolling anymore.

I will enjoy the reactions.
 

CCIE

Banned
I'm interested to see what happens with this banner. The odds are out there on both GAF and Reddit, and everyone knows this is a shit show. I have to agree though - it isn't going to get any better.

Congrats Gumi! People will begin dropping out at this point, and fewer and fewer people will probably spend until things change. JUST like Japan was, though Gumi will probably just drop it with no notice like they have been known to do in the past - they won't bother to try and improve it first.

Bunch of morons making the decisions there. Wish I'd never spent a dime on this game, but I actually had some faith they could just FOLLOW the BLUEPRINT already laid out before them. Oh well, have learned and won't be making that mistake again.
 

Lyrian

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I really like Kuja's spritework, and I just noticed that his ATK and MAG are both over 105 when fully leveled 5*. Is he the perfect hybrid build character? If I put 2x Hero Rings, Green Beret, Black Belt Gi and eventually that Poison club we get from the challenge, could he actually make spellblade abilities worth it? Am I stupid for even thinking about this?

Nope. I've trying to figure out Kuja's niche for awhile. I thought that his niche was being a jack of all trades in spells, but Tellah outperforms him in that regard rather easily with a much more attractive base spell package. Spellblading would indeed be his forte for the reasons you mention.

That said, the prevailing logic here is that Blade type spells are only up to the -ra categora (outside of a few TMs), which is going to make finding high damaging blade abilities difficult to obtain.

All in all, I can see how it can be done, but like all non-tip-top tier characters, it is going to take a lot of work to set up correctly.
 
I really like Kuja's spritework, and I just noticed that his ATK and MAG are both over 105 when fully leveled 5*. Is he the perfect hybrid build character? If I put 2x Hero Rings, Green Beret, Black Belt Gi and eventually that Poison club we get from the challenge, could he actually make spellblade abilities worth it? Am I stupid for even thinking about this?

The problem with this is the fact that there are very few hybrid characters that are simply outclassed by specialists. A good comparison, to some extent, would be Garland. He has a much higher attack and some decent magic but his kit is full of spells without the default MAG to back it up. This changes somewhat with his 6* though.

Kuja has decent MAG but his kit is so lacking in offensive options that even if you attempt to boost his attack, it will make his spell casting suffer even more.

Kuja also does have one of the best damn sprites in the game!!

And yes we get the Cowboy Knife eventually and it is amazing.
 

leehom

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As much as I love this game, if we keep getting banners like these I'll probably quit. I have a difficult enough time getting one decent pull out of a hundred, now my chances have decreased dramatically.

I considered spending money on this game, but definitely won't support these practices. I quit one piece because I could never pull good characters and could never clear all of the difficult content. This game is starting to follow the same route.
 

Lyrian

Member
Well, at least we're getting a new island in 2 days with a new story character, and hopefully the next trial.

Those are going to be interesting distractions (+ Cactaur Dunes as well this weekend) from the current event dungeon.

Of course, the 64 million gil question is: "As Global is now obviously different from JP, just how valuable will those HP + 15% abilities be given that they will likely never be available again in the future and that the only superior option (Amarant's TM), is all but impossible to roll?"

Hrmm... decisions, decisions.
 
I have to eat some crow in regards to the current event

Its a fantastic exploration

You get great crafting materials, Magicite, Cactuars and Turtles, and of course the event items... which are actually the least attractive part.

I might just grind the 20 stones and start focusing on leveling lower tier parties and crafting (avoiding Ainsel altogether)
 

Lyrian

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I have to eat some crow in regards to the current event

Its a fantastic exploration

You get great crafting materials, Magicite, Cactuars and Turtles, and of course the event items... which are actually the least attractive part.

You are right. If you can tolerate grinding out all of the encounters each run, the rewards are actually quite good (except meh rank xp). Kind of hard to tolerate doing that all day, however. If the Jumbo Cactaur spawns on the first floor, you can walk away with approximately 100-105k unit xp per 15 energy.

The mathematicians on Reddit have woken up and calculated the correct expected rates for the 7 banner, should it go as expected.

Lani/Vivi: 12.5% each.
Amarant/Frejya/Kuja/Zidane: 1.125% each
Garnet: 0.5%

Garnet = Lightning, lol.
 
Yeah the worst part of the event is the time it takes

You kind of have to pick between a competent team (to score materials) or a leveling team (40+ units you want to snag a few levels for)

The best rewards are the cactuars, crafting mats and magicite though

worth it for that
 

Shouta

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At least you can't summon FF XIV units with lapis/tickets, it's going to be really grindy though.

EDIT : oh wait, you can only get event currency fighting Ifrit, which get stronger every time a player kill it.
F2P players have no chances to get good stuff then.

Nah. I'm largely F2P and I can get all but like the Top 10% of individual rewards during these events. Those are usually like Pots lol. I haven't had any trouble getting all of the unique gear/skills during raid events.

JP has never had a 7 unit banner. This banner is potentially (unless Gumi deviates from its normal gacha distribution policies) the worst ever, because it would imply that Garnet (the 4* base unit) would have a lower draw rate than 5* base Lightning on banner.



If you mean trash = 4* max, than no. According to the Reddit Wiki, all FF13 units awaken to at least 5*. (Lightning, Snow = 6 *, Fang, Vanille, Sash, Hope = 5*)



Because its actually fun, despite the BS that Gumi is pulling? I derive my fun from making teams work that should have no possibility of succeeding (at least in the opinion of the hivemind on Reddit) and playing characters that I actually liked from previous FF games.



I think Shouta on the last page was discussing a recently released strong dagger with innate dual wield. I want to say that it was called the Cowboy Dagger/Dirk, or something like that.

JP has had several 6-unit banners including for FFT, FF13, and DQMSL.

http://altema.jp/ffbe/gachaichiran-7503

This isn't totally updated but you can see several banners with multiple units.

It's also the Cowboy Knife. http://altema.jp/ffbe/buki/160
 

CCIE

Banned
I'm "working" today, so I can't do anymore than run TMR between checking email and such. Good news is I can easily run every once in a while - checking my phone and no one is the wiser
 

CCIE

Banned
You KNOW the FFIV banner will have a boosted Rydia, and Kain. I'm never pulling Cecil either outside of a once in a chance lucky draw off banner down the line sometime.
 
You KNOW the FFIV banner will have a boosted Rydia, and Kain. I'm never pulling Cecil either outside of a once in a chance lucky draw off banner down the line sometime.

At least Cecil is a 3 star base but yeah..

Rates are WAY to low. Should be 50% banner pull and a more even split after that

Plus they should have some system to shift rates towards units you dont already own just a bit

would reduce the sting a little
 

Dragner

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well, Cecil has a good rate for a rare 3* unit, its double of Zidane's so at least should be around 3% on his banner. Not that terrible. But yeah.
 
i mean

since i have yet to hit a wall i cant climb with my current units its still been lots of fun

hopefully it stays that way but seeing the JP challenges.... yeesh

hour long fights are NOT appealing to me on a mobile game
 

Lyrian

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Nah. I'm largely F2P and I can get all but like the Top 10% of individual rewards during these events. Those are usually like Pots lol. I haven't had any trouble getting all of the unique gear/skills during raid events.



JP has had several 6-unit banners including for FFT, FF13, and DQMSL.

http://altema.jp/ffbe/gachaichiran-7503

This isn't totally updated but you can see several banners with multiple units.

It's also the Cowboy Knife. http://altema.jp/ffbe/buki/160

Thanks for the info and the clarification on the Cowboy Knife. Much appreciated!

If the rates are truly as bad as project for the next banner and continue to be so in the future, wouldn't that make pulling the Rare Summon banner (the normal one) the better option in the vast majority of cases?
 

Valentus

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Guys, the point isnt even that theres a banner with 7 or 8 units on it.

the fucking point is that VIVI AND LANI ARE ON THE BANNER. Those 2 units fuck all the rates.

If the banner were only Zidane, Kuja, Amarant, Freya and Garnet, If you got a blue crystal, you had 7,5% chance of getting one of them, and if you get a yellow crystal, 1,7% chance of getting garnet.

But no, because of fucking vivi and fucking lani, Garnet now will have Lightning-esque pulling rates.

Thats just in the line of scamming.
 

CCIE

Banned
No Valentus, I get it. Like I said, they will add Kain and Rydia to the FFIV banner, screwing up the rates for Cecil as well. Seriously, I may have to go all in on the contest banner seeing the crap Gumi is pulling. All I know is, only a moron or someone who just doesn't give a crap would pull off that seven unit piece of trash.
 
I feel pretty lucky with the team I've assembled and definitely don't think I need to pull on any banners anytime soon. But my question for those in the know, is what kind of power creep are we looking at with this game? Basically, will my AAA team become obsolete?

This is my top dog team;
Lenna
Warrior of Light
Kefka
Firion or Bartz
Cloud of Darkness

(I should note I also have 2 zidanes for eventual dual wields)
 

Dragner

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No Valentus, I get it. Like I said, they will add Kain and Rydia to the FFIV banner, screwing up the rates for Cecil as well. Seriously, I may have to go all in on the contest banner seeing the crap Gumi is pulling. All I know is, only a moron or someone who just doesn't give a crap would pull off that seven unit piece of trash.

I could use a Kain for future Maxwell (if we get it ofc).
 
We.

Shall.

See.

I mean we are assuming this will set a precedent right? Yes the rates are worse than shit and yes I have very little room to talk as I was fortunate to get the two characters I wanted quickly but part of me thinks we won't know the lasting outcome until either the FFIV banner or FF XII banner.

Though I will admit that someone pulling a Garnet is equivalent to someone pulling a fucking Lightning lol
 
The upcoming banner is hilarious. I expect a tiny portion of the user base will pull from it and Gumi will learn they can't pull this shit. I'm sure they'll try other scummy things but this will be blatant.
 

Dragner

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Day 4, one of my Zidanes is slacking
 
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