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[CCIE]

I'm not sure it really matters. There is no perfect team, and depending on what the situation is, different mixtures may work better. I'm running Rydia with my exploration party simply because I'm trying to work on the evoking trophy

I have my all physical team, my all mage team, and a mixture as well. Just run what you want, and you can clear 90% of content with zero issues.

 

[Valentus]

That's why it's set to 540% instead of a 400%. Gale Barrage is 400% and physical only anyway so he still has a better attack and gear options than CoD.

I should look and see if the JPs have any info on hybrid skill distribution between Attack and M.attack. Depending on ratio, it changes significantly.

isnt it only (ATK+MAG)/2 and thats why all hybrid skills suck balls?

 

[Squall ASF]

Plus, once all the mainline games are added, lots of people will just be rocking their favorite characters anyway and some a whole party from one game ;p

 

[Razmos]

I'm going to do SO many pulls when the Type-0 event starts.

 

[TheChillyAcademic]

I'm going to do SO many pulls when the Type-0 event starts.

I tried to get through that game but jesus fuck. Literally some of the worst VA on the planet.

 

[Shouta]

isnt it only (ATK+MAG)/2 and thats why all hybrid skills suck balls?

Not sure. I haven't seen any formula related things for it yet. I did see this article done back in January on Magic Sword though, using Stonra Blade.

http://altema.jp/ffbe/mahouken-9260

Basically, specializing in either magic or attack for Magic Sword attacks is what you want to do though if you can also raise the other at the same time, it helps as well. Additionally, having both attack and magic attack buffs and debuffs up is how you get the most out of a hybrid skill.

I just remembered that Bartz also has the ability to reduce wind resistance on an enemy and there aren't any enemies that resist wind yet in the trials, I think. So that increases the effectiveness of his attacks. It can also element chain for those benefits, heh.

I should raise my Bartz to 6 and test him out.

 

[TheChillyAcademic]

I thought stonra blade was useless lol

 

[Squall ASF]

Yeah Type-0 was one of two FF games I straight up disliked. I was NOT happy when XV changed hands from Nomura to Tabata but nonetheless, my most hyped game of the last 10 years ;p

One day Squall and Rinoa will be mine. Sigh. Actually, like I said before, I'm ok with it taking a while because it just means they'll be stronger for it ;p Squall anyway.

 

[Shouta]

I thought stonra blade was useless lol

It is. As I recall, the damage modifier on it is either really low or the very standard 140%.

 

[TheChillyAcademic]

It is. As I recall, the damage modifier on it is either really low or the very standard 140%.

 

[shintoki]

Anyone want to start a Bartz appreciation club? Dude is bad ass.

Agreed, just a bunch of fools without tanks underestimating the power of Buttz.

I'm in duck.

 

[robertsan21]

my current team:
Tellah
Lenna
Amarant
Bartz
Garland

I dont know how the fuck some of you in here have managed to get trust mastery reward. I need Bartz with Barrage

 

[Kitoro]

It seems like it rotates with the other vortex dungeons. It's happened more or less once a month.

Aww man. Okay. What's the best way to level new units outside of those? Thanks again!

And that was a clever gif use, indeed, Chilly!

 

[RedZaraki]

Got a Kefka with 326 Magi.

Add me guys!

378, 236, 838

 

[TheChillyAcademic]

Got a Kefka with 326 Magi.

Add me guys!

378, 236, 838

I'm not near my phone, save a spot for me

 

[chrono01]

Got a Kefka with 326 Magi.

Add me guys!

378, 236, 838

Sent!

 

[Heng]

my current team:
Tellah
Lenna
Amarant
Bartz
Garland

I dont know how the fuck some of you in here have managed to get trust mastery reward. I need Bartz with Barrage

What level is your Bartz? He does learn Barrage somewhere in his 5* form (not sure if you meant you needed Barrage TM). Your team looks pretty solid nonetheless.

 

[RedZaraki]

I'm not near my phone, save a spot for me

I may have sent an invite your way already while you're full lol

 

[Shouta]

Beat Dark Siren and Dark Ifrit but they killed my Cecil at the last second so I didn't get the damn Great Sword Mastery ability. BLARGH. That fight is evil as fuck.

 

[Squall ASF]

Beat Dark Siren and Dark Ifrit but they killed my Cecil at the last second so I didn't get the damn Great Sword Mastery ability. BLARGH. That fight is evil as fuck.

Is that fight when Barfira is finally useful?

 

[Shouta]

Is that fight when Barfira is finally useful?

Barwatera, Barfira, and Bardarkness (this one doesn't exist), lol. This is one of the fights that Cloud of Darkness or Marie (a Bar- specialist char) is super useful.

 

[Squall ASF]

Barwatera, Barfira, and Bardarkness (this one doesn't exist), lol. This is one of the fights that Cloud of Darkness or Marie (a Bar- specialist char) is super useful.

I figured a more powerful Ifrit would be when I might finally need barfira but wondered what strong boss would use water. Interesting.

 

[TheChillyAcademic]

Beat Dark Siren and Dark Ifrit but they killed my Cecil at the last second so I didn't get the damn Great Sword Mastery ability. BLARGH. That fight is evil as fuck.

How the FUCK did you beat Dark Siren lol

Incidentally, does anyone have an armor list for JP?

 

[Shouta]

DID IT! Hell yeah!

I figured a more powerful Ifrit would be when I might finally need barfira but wondered what strong boss would use water. Interesting.

Yeah, Siren is the one you need Barwater. However, you want Tidus to do that because he can provide 100% instead of just 70% water.

How the FUCK did you beat Dark Siren lol

Incidentally, does anyone have an armor list for JP?

Dark Siren is the easier of the two. She only uses Water and some Dark attacks. Tidus gives you 100% resistance against it. She only uses magic attacks as well which Warrior of Light's Special Taunt will always grab for you.

Dark Ifrit on the other hand uses Fire/Dark magic but also has hits like a truck physically. In fact, if you do too much damage against him in one turn, he'll hit you back with a similar attack that's pretty much guaranteed to kill you, lol.

 

[Kouriozan]

DID IT! Hell yeah!

Gratz, can't wait for the challenge for when it'll hit Global!

 

[TheChillyAcademic]

700 atk on fucking Tidus, its not right

 

[Kitoro]

How many more years do you think they'll make us wait before they drop Cloud and Sephiroth on us?

 

[Pbae]

The real question is whether they'll be native 6 or 7 stars.

 

[TheChillyAcademic]

The real question is whether they'll be native 6 or 7 stars.

Tied with Babs at base 8*

 

[H3xum]

So out of Bartz, Cecil, Chiz, Shinnato or whatever, Leo and Kefka....Who should I dump trust moogles into? I am thinking the above order but would like to hear smarter people's opinions

 

[kevyward]

Pulled Vaan yesterday! Finally have full break and got a second zidane today for that TM grind.

 

[NomarTyme]

So out of Bartz, Cecil, Chiz, Shinnato or whatever, Leo and Kefka....Who should I dump trust moogles into? I am thinking the above order but would like to hear smarter people's opinions

Cecil or save it for Zidane.

Goddamn good job Shouta. Pretty good for guy who only spent $40 on this game! gives me hope for the future of FFBE.

 

[Lyrian]

Was that a creative way of telling me it won't be back til October? If so, that's a looooong wait... :S

To be more specific, so far, Cactuar Dunes seems to rotate around every 3 weekends.

Cactuar Dunes --> Chamber of Crystals --> Gil Snapper's Cave --> Cactuar Dunes


Grats Shouta on the big win!

 

[Lyrian]

How many more years do you think they'll make us wait before they drop Cloud and Sephiroth on us?

Whenever FF7R is released?

 

[Squall ASF]

DID IT! Hell yeah!





Yeah, Siren is the one you need Barwater. However, you want Tidus to do that because he can provide 100% instead of just 70% water.



Dark Siren is the easier of the two. She only uses Water and some Dark attacks. Tidus gives you 100% resistance against it. She only uses magic attacks as well which Warrior of Light's Special Taunt will always grab for you.

Dark Ifrit on the other hand uses Fire/Dark magic but also has hits like a truck physically. In fact, if you do too much damage against him in one turn, he'll hit you back with a similar attack that's pretty much guaranteed to kill you, lol.

Congrats! and....I want Tidus period, so, yeah ;p Although if I got Orlandu before Tidus comes out probably wouldn't feel a great need but would still be cool to have.

 

[Valentus]

So out of Bartz, Cecil, Chiz, Shinnato or whatever, Leo and Kefka....Who should I dump trust moogles into? I am thinking the above order but would like to hear smarter people's opinions

Like i said, the TM that you must need MORE THAN ONE in my opinion are:

Dual Wield
Excalibur
Maximilian
Aegis Shield
Ribbon
MAG+30%
HP+30%

The rest of the TMs with only one you are good. Now that we got a FFVI event, dont use your moogles on them.

Rising sun (locke) is the best weapon for CoD, but its so niche
Minerva Bustier (Celes) is a nice armor, but only female and so niche too
Ultima (Terra) is the real deal in magic, but again, this event might give you the chance to get multiple Terras and grind her TM so fast.
Aegis Shield (Leo) is mandatory for tanks, but again, same case as terra.

Dont waste moogles on shantotto too (MAG+30%) she is very common draw and you should get 5 of her very easily with the time.

If you want to power up your attackers: Focus on Cecil and Zidane's TM

If you want to power up your Tank: Focus on Vaan and Amarant TM

If you want to power up your mage: Focus on Kefka and Shantotto TM

 

[TheChillyAcademic]

Whenever FF7R is released?

So in 23 years.

 

[NomarTyme]

Like i said, the TM that you must need MORE THAN ONE in my opinion are:

Dual Wield
Excalibur
Maximilian
Aegis Shield
Ribbon
MAG+30%
HP+30%

The rest of the TMs with only one you are good. Now that we got a FFVI event, dont use your moogles on them.

Rising sun (locke) is the best weapon for CoD, but its so niche
Minerva Bustier (Celes) is a nice armor, but only female and so niche too
Ultima (Terra) is the real deal in magic, but again, this event might give you the chance to get multiple Terras and grind her TM so fast.
Aegis Shield (Leo) is mandatory for tanks, but again, same case as terra.

Dont waste moogles on shantotto too (MAG+30%) she is very common draw and you should get 5 of her very easily with the time.

If you want to power up your attackers: Focus on Cecil and Zidane's TM

If you want to power up your Tank: Focus on Vaan and Amarant TM

If you want to power up your mage: Focus on Kefka and Shantotto TM

I was thinking about combining my 2 Leo's... decisions decisions!

 

[leehom]

I was thinking about combining my 2 Leo's... decisions decisions!

Don't do it

 

[Valentus]

I was thinking about combining my 2 Leo's... decisions decisions!

do this only if you can draw 4 leos... 2 per shield.

 

[Lyrian]

So in 23 years.

Please be excited?

 

[TheChillyAcademic]

Please be excited?

Where the hell have you been today lol

 

[Lyrian]

Where the hell have you been today lol

Actually doing work today?


The Reddit Hivemind apparently over the course of the evening has made the official proclamation that the next banner to be the usual complete trash and anyone who pulls on it needs mental reprogramming.

Never change, Reddit.

 

[Celegus]

I was thinking about combining my 2 Leo's... decisions decisions!

Don't do it!

 

[Buster Machine]

DID IT! Hell yeah!





Yeah, Siren is the one you need Barwater. However, you want Tidus to do that because he can provide 100% instead of just 70% water.



Dark Siren is the easier of the two. She only uses Water and some Dark attacks. Tidus gives you 100% resistance against it. She only uses magic attacks as well which Warrior of Light's Special Taunt will always grab for you.

Dark Ifrit on the other hand uses Fire/Dark magic but also has hits like a truck physically. In fact, if you do too much damage against him in one turn, he'll hit you back with a similar attack that's pretty much guaranteed to kill you, lol.

Congrats. I've been trying to beat them today too and decided to give it one last shot after reading your post.

Had the exact same thing happen with Lightning dying on the last turn, but whatever. I'll try for the no death later. Been playing for over 2 hours and can't really take anymore lol

 

[CrimsonSquall]

Like i said, the TM that you must need MORE THAN ONE in my opinion are:

Dual Wield
Excalibur
Maximilian
Aegis Shield
Ribbon
MAG+30%
HP+30%

The rest of the TMs with only one you are good. Now that we got a FFVI event, dont use your moogles on them.

Rising sun (locke) is the best weapon for CoD, but its so niche
Minerva Bustier (Celes) is a nice armor, but only female and so niche too
Ultima (Terra) is the real deal in magic, but again, this event might give you the chance to get multiple Terras and grind her TM so fast.
Aegis Shield (Leo) is mandatory for tanks, but again, same case as terra.

Dont waste moogles on shantotto too (MAG+30%) she is very common draw and you should get 5 of her very easily with the time.

If you want to power up your attackers: Focus on Cecil and Zidane's TM

If you want to power up your Tank: Focus on Vaan and Amarant TM

If you want to power up your mage: Focus on Kefka and Shantotto TM

This list is nuts! What u NEED to do is put the whale disclaimer there bc u don't NEED 2 of each of these. That's just simply not true

 

[AdawgDaFAB]

Actually doing work today?


The Reddit Hivemind apparently over the course of the evening has made the official proclamation that the next banner to be the usual complete trash and anyone who pulls on it needs mental reprogramming.

Never change, Reddit.

I haven't looked too much at it, but the Reddit community for this game really comes off as the worst from all of the Gacha games I've played. :/

 

[Eidjinn]

Like i said, the TM that you must need MORE THAN ONE in my opinion are:

Dual Wield
Excalibur
Maximilian
Aegis Shield
Ribbon
MAG+30%
HP+30%

The rest of the TMs with only one you are good. Now that we got a FFVI event, dont use your moogles on them.

Rising sun (locke) is the best weapon for CoD, but its so niche
Minerva Bustier (Celes) is a nice armor, but only female and so niche too
Ultima (Terra) is the real deal in magic, but again, this event might give you the chance to get multiple Terras and grind her TM so fast.
Aegis Shield (Leo) is mandatory for tanks, but again, same case as terra.

Dont waste moogles on shantotto too (MAG+30%) she is very common draw and you should get 5 of her very easily with the time.

If you want to power up your attackers: Focus on Cecil and Zidane's TM

If you want to power up your Tank: Focus on Vaan and Amarant TM

If you want to power up your mage: Focus on Kefka and Shantotto TM

The difference between Reddit and Gaf is... Valentus.

And "GAF's Shadow". Haha!

 

[Lyrian]

I haven't looked too much at it, but the Reddit community for this game really comes off as the worst from all of the Gacha games I've played. :/

I'm going to agree with you on that.

I think what the problem is on FFBE Reddit is that there is too much precognition about FFBE JP. As a result, proclamations are being made about content that is probably half a year away or more, with the loudest voices drumming up a bandwagon about only behaving in a manner that is consistent with the state of where JP is currently.

Interestingly, in the last 24-48 hours, the loudest voices have started formalizing guidelines into principles explaining their "superior" mindset and logic.


-- Principle 1: Only main protagonists and antagonists will receive 6* upgrades.
-- Principle 2: A unit must have a 6* upgrade, existing or known to be upcoming, to be classified as "future proof".
-- Principle 3: If a unit is not "future proof", by definition of Principle 2", then it is worthless and you should never ever draw for that unit, nor invest resources into that unit.
-- Principle 4: Should two competing units pass the first three principles, the unit with a superior native skill set should be accepted. Discard the second unit, as no one should ever invest resources in a unit that has a superior counterpart.
-- Principle 5: If you made it this far with a unit's analysis, and are still unsure, it is trash because it has not clearly defined itself as the utmost superior unit of its archetype well enough and is therefore unacceptable.

For example, analyzing the next banner:

Units: Celes, Leo, Locke, Terra.

Analysis:

Celes: 6* in JP? No. Main antagonist/protagonist? No. Therefore, complete trash per Principle 3.

Leo: 6* in JP? No. Main antagonist/protagonist? No. Therefore, complete trash per Principle 3. (Even if it did pass these checks, WoL exists, so therefore trash per Principle 4).

Locke: 6* in JP? No. Main antagonist/protagonist? No. Therefore, complete trash per Principle 3.

Terra: 6* in JP? Yes (pending). Main antagonist/protagonist? Yes. Reddit's analysis: Unsure if 6* is trash or not yet, because a determination on Principle 4 cannot be judged as of yet. Surely, global will receive another rate-up banner with her when the 6* awakening arrives. Thus, Principle 5 holds currently, and therefore Terra is currently judged to be trash.

Therefore, as all units are trash, the banner is trash, and do not pull on it ever.

/facepalm

 

[Shouta]

I just beat Gilgamesh with 5 people and then went to the results screen to get my reward then BAM, maintenance. Fuck Maintenance. >=(

Congrats. I've been trying to beat them today too and decided to give it one last shot after reading your post.



Had the exact same thing happen with Lightning dying on the last turn, but whatever. I'll try for the no death later. Been playing for over 2 hours and can't really take anymore lol

Damn, that's some bad luck, lol. 2 Tank really helps in this fight. Cecil will auto cover your folks and WoL can draw the magic with Brave Presence. When I did Ifrit -> Siren, it was really easy after I got rid of Ifrit because Tidus' buff nullified so many attacks from her.