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Final Fantasy Brave Exvius |OT| Classic sprite-based JRPG goodness [UP] Global launch
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DrROBschiz
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Go with the Alt anyways
FF6 character banner is up this weekend so you can fill in the gaps easily
That's what I was thinking. I just hope that I could pull Cecil or WoL to wrap up my team.
DrROBschiz
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TheChillyAcademic
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So in JP...top mages are:
Rem, Ex-Death, Majin F, Summer F, and THEN The Emperor.
humph.
DrROBschiz
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Cmon guys
With the right TMs you could practically beat content with any of your favorite characters... Well most of them at least
Start TM farming today!
Did Kefka 6* already get ranking in Altema?
Shouta
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92 for Kefka, 93 for Terra though it's very likely to change.
TheChillyAcademic
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I assume Trance Terra will make it into the top 5, 6* Kefka though...dunno, might make top 10. Will be interesting to find out!!
Terra above Kefka eh!
DrROBschiz
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I mean
How hardcore is the content going to get
Will you be seriously gated by not having a full party of the Top Ten? Im not sure why everyone is so worried
How hardcore is the content going to get
Will you be seriously gated by not having a full party of the Top Ten? Im not sure why everyone is so worried
TheChillyAcademic
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Its been said a million times, the mindset of OMFG I ONLY NEED 99/100 RATED CHARACTERS OR FAIL has been proven wrong. Balance of good TMs, equipment and characters can get you through a lot.
Pejo
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Congrats!
Frost Dragon for me was the toughest challenge yet in Global, felt good to finally beat him. Good luck on the fight, and make sure you have somebody with either esuna, or a super weak attack equipped with a confusion prevention accessory.
DrROBschiz
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jasminlovesyoux
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I'm just happy with having characters that can Awaken to 6*. The jump from using 4* to 5* is already huge. I can only imagine fully leveled 6* will be mandatory to clear the hardest content.
jasminlovesyoux
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You can do this???? I'm in the same boat man. How?
I kind of feel like you're directly referencing the posts I made earlier in the thread
Honestly speaking, you're half-right and half-wrong. The gap between characters that have certain skills and those that don't is simply massive. It doesn't matter if the latter can still clear content, the former simply can do it in less time, with less headache.
There isn't exactly any hard gate to any meaningful content that requires the top tier units, but there really is a much higher luck component in Exvius vs. its contemporaries. I honestly think that's objectively measurable.
Tangentially, the other thing that I simply refuse to do is bot TMs. Thought about this long and hard after I pulled Zidane, and came to the conclusion that if a game was pushing me to basically bot, which generally adds nothing to a game except that in practice it separates those who'd do it vs those who wouldn't (and, of course, the crazy small percentile of people who are willing to legitimately do it) then it's a game design problem that should be looked at, and I'm simply not willing to partake.
Grinding, sure. mindlessly repeating an action that has very little to do with the game itself, I'll stop. Not picking on Exvius specifically for this either - it's the big reason I dropped Terra Battle, and the big reason I simply just stopped mucking around with the Casino in GBF despite being 'essential' for progression, until the recent change that made it go literally 10 times as fast.
(All that being said, don't let me stop you, enjoy the game however you want)
edit2: In terms of answering the question you answered, though, I'll completely agree with you. If content required a complete royal flush of the best units, JP Exvius would simply have just dropped dead since they had no idea of knowing e.g. which units would get 6*s earlier than others, etc. This min-max mania is a problem inherent to many English mobile game communities that map out the blueprint to the game and are prepared like Batman for anything down the line.
Can you do this?
edit: beaten lol
Pejo
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Yea you long press your units then there's a "Target" option in the top right.
TheChillyAcademic
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I kind of feel like you're directly referencing the posts I made earlier in the thread
Honestly speaking, you're half-right and half-wrong. The gap between characters that have certain skills and those that don't is simply massive. It doesn't matter if the latter can still clear content, the former simply can do it in less time, with less headache.
There isn't exactly any hard gate to any meaningful content that requires the top tier units, but there really is a much higher luck component in Exvius vs. its contemporaries. I honestly think that's objectively measurable.
Tangentially, the other thing that I simply refuse to do is bot TMs. Thought about this long and hard after I pulled Zidane, and came to the conclusion that if a game was pushing me to basically bot, which generally adds nothing to a game except that in practice it separates those who'd do it vs those who wouldn't (and, of course, the crazy small percentile of people who are willing to legitimately do it) then it's a game design problem that should be looked at, and I'm simply not willing to partake.
Grinding, sure. mindlessly repeating an action that has very little to do with the game itself, I'll stop. Not picking on Exvius specifically for this either - it's the big reason I dropped Terra Battle, and the big reason I simply just stopped mucking around with the Casino in GBF despite being 'essential' for progression, until the recent change that made it go literally 10 times as fast.
(All that being said, don't let me stop you, enjoy the game however you want)
Oh I agree. You can equip russell with the best equipment and TMs patience can buy, but he's still not going to hold a candle to a Bartz or CoD or hell, even Kain with the same set up.
Still, I just hope people don't fall into the Reddit mindset that all other characters that don't have 6* forms are absolute useless trash. Would you have a much better time with a party full of 6*s? Of course you would. But in the end it isn't the ONLY way to succeed at this game, certain exclusions notwithstanding of course.
And yeah I have no fucking idea what you might have posted earlier lol ^.^
Shouta
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I kind of feel like you're directly referencing the posts I made earlier in the thread
Honestly speaking, you're half-right and half-wrong. The gap between characters that have certain skills and those that don't is simply massive. It doesn't matter if the latter can still clear content, the former simply can do it in less time, with less headache.
There isn't exactly any hard gate to any meaningful content that requires the top tier units, but there really is a much higher luck component in Exvius vs. its contemporaries. I honestly think that's objectively measurable.
Where do you get this idea? There really isn't a higher luck component in Exvius compared to its contemporaries. It's the same as any gatcha game really. If anything, it's less so because the game gives you so many options to power up your characters.
Also, the gulf isn't nearly as massive as folks make it out to be. It's the min-maxing tendencies that over exaggerate this fact. Warrior of Light and Cecil are top tanks but Emperor Soze and Wilhelm are equal tanks. Even Snow and Hagure Metal are equal tanks with the right support and situation.
If the unit hasn't been touched by the devs in awhile, then yeah there's an issue but that's power inflation in general. That'll happen with any of these types of games. It's more important how good the spread of more recently updated units are than anything. BE is extremely good on that front despite what the min-maxers think.
DrROBschiz
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Figured it out
I kept mixing up Units with the menu
You have to long press the actual sprite lol
I'm sure you've played your fair share of gacha games, and I'm sure you know I have as well. I'm also equally sure that there's quite a few games you've played that I haven't, and vice versa.
If you really, really want me to break down comparitive power levels in Exvius (Global, as it is right now - as you're aware from my previous posts I'm pretty much in agreement with you that JP is in a decent spot right now) versus a couple of other games off top of head, I probably could do that, but it'd be a really time consuming mental exercise, tangential to the OT, and probably would come off as whining about Exvius, which I honestly am not intending to do.
I'd say at this point we'll just agree to disagree based on our respective experiences.
Shouta
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Oh, in Global? Well, I'd say it's OK-ish right now because most of the units that are available are in the same general range, ignoring 6-star potential anyway.
I will say it's a bit sloppy around when the first 6-star (i.e. Lightning) gets introduced. For JP, it was bad until they introduced Lune because that's when they started putting out more units that could easily match. Between those two, it was mostly units 6-star that weren't specialized or very strong 5-star units that were getting released. If the release schedule remains similar, it'll be a weird few months in Global.
TheChillyAcademic
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Global is already really weird.
The saga continues...
The saga continues...
Pejo
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Man I really need an NRG dump. I can't really run explorations while I'm at work, but everything I need to farm is from them.
All of my non-FP characters are max awakened and leveled, so xp dungeon is a bust. Guess I could just do INT Awakening Vortex and stock up on Sacred Crystals.
Too bad I can't run Nox on my work PC, this would be a perfect time to grind trust.
What are you guys doing when you can't "play" but you need to burn through NRG?
All of my non-FP characters are max awakened and leveled, so xp dungeon is a bust. Guess I could just do INT Awakening Vortex and stock up on Sacred Crystals.
Too bad I can't run Nox on my work PC, this would be a perfect time to grind trust.
What are you guys doing when you can't "play" but you need to burn through NRG?
DrROBschiz
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Anything i can
In the same position as you
I have Nox for nighttime trust farming and just fit in whatever i feel like prioritizing at the moment
Wired All Wrong
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I've been mostly grinding out Rank when I need to dump energy quickly, so mostly 2* Esper battles and now I've been doing the Intangir battle.
Pejo
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Nice idea. Might have to actually pay attention for a few minutes, but 3 fights will wipe out a large portion of my NRG. Or I could just probably auto the T2 Espers..hmm.
CrimsonSquall
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Why do people say this? I set my nox on full speed and manual repeat stop and I have never had a problem
Well, Kefka was winning and is not on this banner. So I would assume soon.
Does Nox allow you to be "rooted"? If so, it would be easier to just check it and download an app called Hiro Macro. That app is very easy to use, just click record and do a normal run. Once you've recorded a normal run, it just repeats it over and over. You can slow the whole recorded run down and even delay in-between runs. I think that's way easier than scripting your own macro.
That's just the way I've had to do it, my laptop is not meant for stuff like this and lags hideously playing the game, so the interval is to offset that.
That's my case. Because the loadings are really not reliable, I had to set 20~25 ish seconds between each click.
Because of that, I need to set about 2 minutes to 3 minutes interval between the end of a macro and the beginning of another one. That cycle will run for about 5 minutes, which makes me run it for hours without depleting my mana.
So, it'll depend on what machine and how well it runs Nox.
AdawgDaFAB
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Pebbles and Pure Stones are the only event exclusive mats, right?
Squall ASF
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Speaking of, are those pebbles and pure stones used for anything else? If not, they are wasting Mat inventory space ;p
CrimsonSquall
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Oh wow I was being an idiot, my bad. It never occured to me that there would be slowdown using a macro moreso than just running nox itself. I don't have a gaming laptop but it's still an i7 so sometimes I forget it's supposed to be decently fast.
I have no intervals on, I just set it to hit the earth shrine and then 2 characters to atk and I made a ghost click for connection error and I just let it run forever. Only time I take it off is in between- uni work but it's the beginning of the semester so nothing the library comps can't handle
TheChillyAcademic
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Sent a good number of requests out, Academic is the name!! ^.*
Wait a god damn minute...that Stellar Shield you can get during the new event can totally be worn by Ex-Death! The that's +15 mag!!!
Wait a god damn minute...that Stellar Shield you can get during the new event can totally be worn by Ex-Death! The that's +15 mag!!!
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