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Final Fantasy Brave Exvius |OT4| Gacha Crystals, Gacha Money
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I finally saw 2 Black Chocobos this morning for the first time, here's to hoping my luck improves!
DrROBschiz
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DrROBschiz
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Well old man banner goes till the 5th
So they may not even announce the next one this week
ok i trust u
DrROBschiz
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Yeah dude just saw that!!
Holy shit that could be Meta Changing if there were any holy spells worth a damn as far as modifiers go
White Witch Fina redeemed? Yshtola just became more interesting of course
Who else?
You really have to spend some time to get back into this game after you have been out for a while.
My Good units.
DPS:
Gilgamesh w. Dual Wield
Yun w. Dual Wield
Lightning
Chizuru
Firion, not max lvl yet
Support/Tank/Healer
Cecil
Refia w. Dual Cast
WoL
Agrias
CoD
Ling, finally max leveled
Seven
So what would be the best setup to tackle the Gilgamesh trial ? Also whats the best Esper to use with Ling ?
If i get back to TM farming i really should work on a second Dual Cast for Cecil, one more Dual Wield for Firion so im less depending on Lightning and a Weapon for Yun.
Also from the listed units what attacks can be chained best with Friend Orlandus ? I might not have pulled him but that doesnt mean i shouldnt benefit from his OPness...lol.
My Good units.
DPS:
Gilgamesh w. Dual Wield
Yun w. Dual Wield
Lightning
Chizuru
Firion, not max lvl yet
Support/Tank/Healer
Cecil
Refia w. Dual Cast
WoL
Agrias
CoD
Ling, finally max leveled
Seven
So what would be the best setup to tackle the Gilgamesh trial ? Also whats the best Esper to use with Ling ?
If i get back to TM farming i really should work on a second Dual Cast for Cecil, one more Dual Wield for Firion so im less depending on Lightning and a Weapon for Yun.
Also from the listed units what attacks can be chained best with Friend Orlandus ? I might not have pulled him but that doesnt mean i shouldnt benefit from his OPness...lol.
DrROBschiz
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Yun, Cecil, Refia, Lightning and Ling I guess?
crazyivan19
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Well, my luck on this banner continues. Used the community reward ticket and did my daily half pull. Got Anzelm (number 45 baby!) and Edge. So far on this banner, I have used 12 tickets and did the daily pull each day for a total of 17 pulls. Of those, 4 have been blue banner units (yay for the bonus orbs, I guess), 12 have been trash blues (not even a single good TM unit) and a gold Leon.
I realize that 17 pulls isn't a lot by any stretch of the imagination, but this is definitely the longest terrible streak I've ever had. I usually get at least SOMETHING of worth.
Oh... and I've now gone 30 straight runs of the event without a chocobo.
Ah well... so it goes.
Edit: Hey-oh!! Looks like complaining worked! Finally got another group of 3 chocobos. 36 fights between the encounters, but hopefully this breaks the seal.
I realize that 17 pulls isn't a lot by any stretch of the imagination, but this is definitely the longest terrible streak I've ever had. I usually get at least SOMETHING of worth.
Oh... and I've now gone 30 straight runs of the event without a chocobo.
Ah well... so it goes.
Edit: Hey-oh!! Looks like complaining worked! Finally got another group of 3 chocobos. 36 fights between the encounters, but hopefully this breaks the seal.
DrROBschiz
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I would say first strike is worth it yeah
Its not amazing but having more units with access to counter is always a good thing
Can they beat the stage without OP TMs ? Gilga is my best DPS unit...any reason why Lightning/Yun would be better ?
Kinda think this will be one of the fights where i regret not having DC on Cecil lol. I need to look it up.
DrROBschiz
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The fight is not about DPS
Its about control and survival
Lightning have innate 30% dodge, counter, and dual weild which frees her accessory and materia slots for defensive gear and makes her once of the best candidates for sealing elements
Yun isnt necessary but he can also pump out dps i guess? I keep mixing up Gilgamesh fight with Ifrit ELT lol
Malakhov
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Thanks, I wasn't sure. I also read on reddit that pouch is better than 30% atk on a unit if that unit doesn't have that killer stacking so I think I'll pick up some. Just wondering how much you gaffers picked up.
robertsan21
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Finally completed the 100 streak arena trophy.
Now to fight some real opponents
Now to fight some real opponents
Alright thanks - if the fights isnt about DPS i have to look up some strategies.
Completly forgot that Lightning offers Counter/Dodge etc. heh.
not on your list, but Rain is actually pretty useful since you can seal 4 element at once with just a single attack, so that leaves a lot of flexibility for other unit to do.
my opinion : Rain, Lightning, Ling, Refia (with Ramuh) and friend Noctis
past hp 50%, you need to seal Gilgamesh with lightning hybrid or magic attack, so Lightning Elemental Blitz is useless and using Lightning just for Thundaga would probably makes the fight longer than it needs to be, that's why Refia with Ramuh in case friend Noctis needs to do other things thn Thunder Flask.
Good luck.
So, in Mysidia we got a new fat chocobo, what can we get from him?
300 SQ - Trust Moogle
200 SQ - Auto Refresh Materia (!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
100 SQ - Cat Ear Hood - Hat/ 0 DEF / 25 MAG/SPR / +20% Fire/Ice/Thunder/Holy resist
50 SQ - Safety Bit - Makes you solo gilgamesh with your 85% evasion noctis
300 SQ - Trust Moogle
200 SQ - Auto Refresh Materia (!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
100 SQ - Cat Ear Hood - Hat/ 0 DEF / 25 MAG/SPR / +20% Fire/Ice/Thunder/Holy resist
50 SQ - Safety Bit - Makes you solo gilgamesh with your 85% evasion noctis
Getting closer to hopefully separate load outs for each page. PLZ
On the event, have 40k, already bought all Cactur and tickets. Leon's TM is almost finished... so close. Shine is pretty close too. I want to get those Cupid Luna items done before for the next trial. Easily going to be the best items for it.
I was most excited for this one, but now I'm not really sure since we got the C.Luna Rings. I'm not sure if I want to replace an ability where I can get 20%+ MP/SPR+ or similar
Only want the Safety bit and Cat Ear hood now.
Alkez
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I'm beginning to question if there's any point in running a tank. Evasion Pseudo Tank just seems better. Obviously it's not an easy thing to build though.
This.
This.
MMBosstones86
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I 'built' an Evasion Noctis last night and I think I can get to like 75% evasion and still 750+ atk.
That's awesome.
Is there anyway to see the Evasion stat?
Noctis has a 20% innate evasion rate.
If you want to face gilga alone you need safety bit, thats an accesory slot locked.
After that you need to add:
Ring of Lucii (25% evasion)
4x Quick Attack/evade (40% evasion total)
Thata a total of 85% evasion rate, but you will sacrifice dual weild. With dual weild thats 75% total (very risky vs gilgamesh)
If you have the luck (or bad luck...) of getting a dracu laswell, his TM (vampire cloak) is a clothes that gives 15% evasion rate, so with that, noctis can get 100% / 90% evasion rate.
DrROBschiz
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kiyomori gives 10
yeah, you sacrifice a element though to get 95% / 85% evasion rate.... good to test.
1 Bad rng = rekt.
Lightning would be a better Evasion Unit. Innate DW and higher evade rate (30%). 4 x QA + Lucii + Kiyomori = 100% evade.
DrROBschiz
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Sacrificing element doesnt matter if you are dodging all the attacks anyways
Like Bonk says, bad RNG, and specially in the holy element attack...
Edit: i know that the holy element attack is very unlikely to activate because the counter holy, but in the thresholds gilgamesh only attack 2 times (bushido freedom) so that turns there is still a chance you are vulnerable to holy attacks.
And we know that global LOVES to fuck us with bad rng.
The problem there is... the thunder element attack? i shouldnt bypass the evasion right?
DrROBschiz
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Well the 100% evasion build I had in mind was
Kiyomori 10
Ring of Lucii - 25
Innate - 20
3x QA - 30
20sided Die - 20
So 105... Kind of overkill
I suppose if you have the cloak then boom a freed up accessory Slot and you have one materia slot left for Dual wield
Kiyomori 10
Ring of Lucii - 25
Innate - 20
3x QA - 30
20sided Die - 20
So 105... Kind of overkill
I suppose if you have the cloak then boom a freed up accessory Slot and you have one materia slot left for Dual wield
Ya, but you're forgetting damage warp, which is stupidly awesome
I'll wait until we get Genji Shield though, that way I don't have to sacrifice 20% evasion~
the thing of bad RNG is not about the damage, is about the status ailments gilga does.
if the holy attack enters then is game over for sure.
But still, its worth to try anyway, which one is faster. Lightning, Noctis.... or the newcomer chizuru?!?!?
Alkez
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My question is, what advantages does an actual tank have over an 100% evasion tank? Later on in the game we can get 100% provoke through an accessory and body armor, so I'm not really sure what a tank brings to the table when this is possible. Obviously each unit is different (WoL providing breaks for instance) but if you already have someone with similar skills do you really need a tank?
DrROBschiz
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Pair Noctis up with Ling
Give ling all the cheap evasion stuff you have leftover
Cyan Evade, Speed Plus etc...
Use first strike materia, only 5%, but added counter. Drop the katana if necessary, for the list above that'd still hit 100%
@Alkez, or just Noctank, innate 20% dodge with fish that draws 100%
Can't dodge magic. Well.. some units get it in small doses later on. But right now, you can't. So dodge tank is relevant for Gilgamesh and some of the earlier trials, but much less so, if at all (?) for later ones.
I confess I'm not sure what the big deal is about all this evade tanking business, but maybe that's because if you don't have Noctis then it's not attainable. I'm devoting an entire unit slot to one guy who uses Fish every round and does nothing else? Why am I doing this again? This does nothing against physical aoe hitting your weaker units, against ST or AOE magic (which you are going to struggle to become immune to due to your materia/accessories being consumed with dodge stuff, right?)...
Is it just a fun thing to mess around with because all the current content is done and dusted?
robertsan21
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The maintenance thats suppose to happen tomorrow,will it reset the Arena Streak?
I will sell all my Raid Coins before maintenance too, you never know if gumi nerfs their value
at the moment it feels like we are getting too good exchange rate for them. Not taking my chances so will sell em off.
I will sell all my Raid Coins before maintenance too, you never know if gumi nerfs their value
at the moment it feels like we are getting too good exchange rate for them. Not taking my chances so will sell em off.I had my Noctis with 75% and 6.5k hp for the trial when it came out, I have both higher dodge and hp now... Having everything focused on 1 unit raises survivability on everyone else.
Lyrian
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YES PLS!
Orlandeau is a hot commodity. They are going to drag him out as long as possible. There's still 3 more days to the financial fiscal first quarter.
If there's a new banner, I wouldn't expect an announcement until late Thursday after the maintenance.
Indeed. Refia's Mentality TM just suddenly gained considerable value.
Yeah... but that's (as always) going to be on the second half of the island. That won't be until next month.
You can thank that "global exclusive" fix.. err.... "ability" for Greg to try to block the one man solo cheese of the trial.
DrROBschiz
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How do people get 100% evasion with safety bit equipped though?
Seems like 95% is the max we could achieve unless we have the cloak
Seems like 95% is the max we could achieve unless we have the cloak
Maybe just cast Thundaga since Lightning has that spell?
Since this is about beating Greg with a single evade unit, we just rely on Lucii to keep countering until he dies. May take 48yrs but it'll still kill Greg.
If he survives a hit. The thing with an evade-built unit is, almost all are squishy. One attack goes in, the unit almost certainly die.
With Lightning, you can.
30% (innate) + 40% (4 x QA) + 25% (Lucii) + Kiyomori (10%) = 105% total evasion.
drop a QA > 95 > use a FS > 100% + counter, lose some dmg, but gain the ability to counter up to the number of hits coming your way.
Noctis isn't squishy like Ling.
Right, it seems relevant and fun for Gilgamesh, but I was responding to the question of advantages of an actual tank over a dodge tank, as it seemed the question was posed more broadly.
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