I think people who were bored of Ayaka being best healer have found success in using summoners in place of a healer.
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Final Fantasy Brave Exvius |OT5| Our Golden Anniversary Brings Us Hope
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I think people who were bored of Ayaka being best healer have found success in using summoners in place of a healer.
On the fence about whether to pull on this banner... might spend a few tickets a day here and there along with dailies. Dark Veritas would be nice for sure, but it's such a slim chance. I'm good on tanks, so I don't really care if I get Earth.
In case anyone else did the ONE app thing and is paranoid, don't forget to unlink it from your Google connected apps in addition to uninstalling everything. It doesn't request any scary permissions so I doubt it can really do anything, but it doesn't hurt to do it.
The free cactaurs, energy, and tickets are awesome. I did have to find another wifi source to get things to work, though.
In case anyone else did the ONE app thing and is paranoid, don't forget to unlink it from your Google connected apps in addition to uninstalling everything. It doesn't request any scary permissions so I doubt it can really do anything, but it doesn't hurt to do it.
The free cactaurs, energy, and tickets are awesome. I did have to find another wifi source to get things to work, though.
Kinda funny, i'm exactly the opposite. Of course i love to pull beloved units like luneth, zidane, tidus, soon yuna and the rest of the ff ix cast and so on. But i'm playing Final Fantasy Brave Exvius, not Final Fantasy Nostalgia gotta catch em all. This game has more iconic ff mechanics than most modern ffs. I love hätt whole cast, i fall in love with the wold, i like how the veritas are portrayed and so.
When we face the Veritas in the Castle i wished this would be a tripple a+ budget ff game. It would work.
I can understand that people play this game to pull their favs units (only to use the best meta units anyway). I just want to say, that if you see this game as a standalone, it would be a great addition to the mainline series.
Hippopuncher12
Member
Yeah, my feelings on this have changed over time. I started to pull memorable characters and I still do that, but I find the characters from FFBE itself to be great. (Most of them) This game is far less fanservice than something like Record Keeper and I think it's a much better game because of it. I'll be honest if I didn't enjoy the story or the original characters I wouldn't play it since they don't give the units from the other games any form of personality or story for the most part.
Request sent.
I recently started playing again after a long hiatus, and now the game bug has bit. Have tons of catching up to do!
Still learning about chaining, finishers, and all that fun stuff.
jasminlovesyoux
Banned
I really appreciate Exvius' story and original characters too. It's the first mobile game I've ever played that feels like it's something more than just a mini game, or arcade style, or a simple battle simulator.
Lyrian
Member
Exvius-GAF is slaying me this morning. Good stuff.
Good luck, Panther! May your interview go as well as my skills evaluation test this afternoon (going to absolutely destroy it).
Wasn't Curada thought of to be the 7* equivalent to Curaja for 6*? The problem there is that 7* awakenings still do not exist, and while healing more is always welcome (spoken as a past MMO main tank group cleric), the fact that complete heals exist trivialize the increased healing. Can't ever beat 100% heals, unless some kind of overflow mechanic is introduced (which could be quite interesting).
/fondly remembers the complete heal exploit from the cleric breastplates in EQ1...
Good luck, Panther! May your interview go as well as my skills evaluation test this afternoon (going to absolutely destroy it).
Wasn't Curada thought of to be the 7* equivalent to Curaja for 6*? The problem there is that 7* awakenings still do not exist, and while healing more is always welcome (spoken as a past MMO main tank group cleric), the fact that complete heals exist trivialize the increased healing. Can't ever beat 100% heals, unless some kind of overflow mechanic is introduced (which could be quite interesting).
/fondly remembers the complete heal exploit from the cleric breastplates in EQ1...
jasminlovesyoux
Banned
I feel like Ayakas ability to dual cast that monster heal along with a revive or whatever is needed, is why she's so sought after. It's why I want her at least lol! Comparing that to Tilith 100% heal, I like Ayakas options a lot more. Once a healer gets introduced that can 100% heal AND do something else too..... well, that's all folks.
Until Gumi introduces triple cast that is.
Hippopuncher12
Member
Donal's Chestplate of Mourning I believe? Goodtimes. God, I miss that game sometimes.
Advocatus Diaboli
Member
Not much to say other than: Good luck, Panther and Lyrian! You'll both crush it.
Alkez
Member
Can we put this in the OP please lmao.
It's true. I've accepted the BE units but I love that they've really taken the time to develop each unit's character through the in game story and through story events. I gained a love for units like Camille, Lunera, and the Veritas that I wouldn't have if they were just generic units.
Yeah I went from 20 tickets to lapis pulls overnight lmao. I don't know why I'm like this lol. At least I've consistently been on the banner I guess haha.
Anoregon
The flight plan I just filed with the agency list me, my men, Dr. Pavel here. But only one of you!
Sent you one as well, I too need to beef up my gaf friend list.
I just spend a bunch of event currency on awakening mats, so I now have everything I need to get both Warrior of Light and Ramza to 6-star. I feel like I probably need to actually progress through story mode for gear and espers, but the event seems like the best use of stamina for me atm.
jasminlovesyoux
Banned
I was doing a bit of reading about the Nier event, because I wanted to hear what music they incorporated into it, and I got super excited for yet another reason.
I didn't even think about it before, but the raid coins will be dropping Moogles for the units TMs! Duh. But this makes me super happy because that means I won't have to TM farm anything. Do you realize how much time and lapis that saves!? I'm so anxious and want to see what I pull already! I hope it's next week.
I didn't even think about it before, but the raid coins will be dropping Moogles for the units TMs! Duh. But this makes me super happy because that means I won't have to TM farm anything. Do you realize how much time and lapis that saves!? I'm so anxious and want to see what I pull already! I hope it's next week.
Alkez
Member
I suggested this to my friend the other day, but I would like to see moogles for the banner units be added to the mog king at a cheap rate. As you say raid moogles are amazing, and in the past I've been persuaded to pull more because of the easy access TMs. In JP they've added unit specific moogles, but past the 3* units they're overly expensive, and they're not for the banner units either.
UpDownLeftRight
Banned
Does Ayaka also have MP refills? That's the one thing is really miss with Tillith is her ability to provide infinite divine ruination to my Orlandeau.
jasminlovesyoux
Banned
One of the past banners I went crazy on was the Noctis , Gilgamesh, random trust moogle bonanza banner. Players choice I think? Anyway, I got a taste of experiencing increasing TMs like mad during that. On the Bahumut raid banner, I pulled 6 Zyrus' and a Roberta, and got 6 Draco Spikes and the Roberta TM immediately as well. Anything that can decrease the time spent getting TMs is an ultra blessing in Exvius.
Yeah she does. It's skill called Dedication and recovers something like 50 MP and 2500 HP to everyone but herself. Much like Tilith. I don't think Ayaka can dual cast that though. Since it's a skill and not white magic.
Yep. Same skill. 99 mp and the usual 5% mp initial refresh
Hippopuncher12
Member
Remembers pulling on the PC banner...the last double 5* banner I chased something on and knowing I am going to chase both of them tomorrow.
jasminlovesyoux
Banned
Remembers pulling on the PC banner...the last double 5* banner I chased something on and knowing I am going to chase both of them tomorrow.
Lmao!
Good luck with tomorrow's ordeal! Can't wait to see results
Friendly reminder to all pullers who are going to do pulls tomorrow after banner change.
Hop to ExviusGAF Discord chat.
#begeneral is the place where you can discuss & show your pulls in real time
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I will be watching pull madness \o_.
Hop to ExviusGAF Discord chat.
#begeneral is the place where you can discuss & show your pulls in real time
.I will be watching pull madness \o_.
PantherLotus
Professional Schmuck
good luck lyrian!!
Hippopuncher12
Member
Thanks! I am expecting pain.....quite a bit of it.
So as for the recording of my pulls. I played around with it for quite a bit last night, and it doesn't seem like I can do voice over without going in afterwards or using some kind of other program while doing it, and I'm not about all that life so it will have no voice over. The other option is I could put it on my Twitch account that I have never used, but with the possibility of one of my children waking up while I am doing it, and needing to go take care of them I don't think a livestream is going to work.
I found the reddit page for the Seraph Trial tomorrow. Relevant section quoted below:
Seems like kind-of an Echinda-lite. No petrify so Tilith is great here (but may get her MP drained a lot). Zarg is probably perfect with Archadian Light and Rejuvenate. Get high spr on everyone and maybe throw the nethicite on someone in case you're in a pinch. 100% dark and light resist so your shiny new DV isn't going to offer much, neither is EV with his physical guard. Just judging by this he doesn't seem too worrisome.
Seems like kind-of an Echinda-lite. No petrify so Tilith is great here (but may get her MP drained a lot). Zarg is probably perfect with Archadian Light and Rejuvenate. Get high spr on everyone and maybe throw the nethicite on someone in case you're in a pinch. 100% dark and light resist so your shiny new DV isn't going to offer much, neither is EV with his physical guard. Just judging by this he doesn't seem too worrisome.
Hippopuncher12
Member
So basically like everything else for the last few months. Bring Fry and wreck shop.
Wishing I had a Fry....
DrROBschiz
Member
Lol yeah im not going for the white jewels
Just gonna straight DPS it down and call it a day
Don't forget you gotta survive for 11 turns if you want that currency. Just killing him likely isn't the challenge here.
Hippopuncher12
Member
Yeah, I am not worried about the currency personally as I already bought everything. I will still bring a survival group around my Fry's just in case. However, I would rather have the no deaths materia than the 10k currency, and I am not going to want to do it twice. We will see though I won't be doing it immediately anyway most likely since I am itching to see this Veritas story.
DrROBschiz
Member
10k currency tho
Not even worth the trouble unless you are really hurting on bonus units for this event
jasminlovesyoux
Banned
What? That's a mission? Probably won't bother wasting my time with it if it's just for the event currency.
Gonna nuke with dual Tidus. That's my meta now booiiiss
Are we friends & do you have Tidus as fleader?
I was planning to nuke that thing with double Tidus with Ace as finisher.
Alkez
Member
What software were you using?
Hippopuncher12
Member
I was just using Nox. It seems to allow a microphone to allow voice over, but it never worked sooooooo meh.
Alkez
Member
O interesting, I didn't know it could do that. I'll take a look into a bit later on, see if I can get it to work.
Edit: I just tried it. Worked for me. I clicked the wheel/cog button in the top right of the video recorder menu to make sure it was registering my microphone in the drop down. The only thing I found was it made my voice sound like I was on helium lol.
jasminlovesyoux
Banned
Yeah I'm pretty sure we're on each other's list. I have Agrias as my current leader though to add the the sea of Agrias friend list.
GuiltGAF
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Shouta
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The top-class healers are slightly overhyped. There's a lot of talk about how awesome a kit like Ayaka's is but you ultimately use a fraction of it because of your team composition. It ends up being a bit of a safety net at most when you can easily get away with something else.
With a healer, the metric should be how many things can I get off in one turn in regards to healing. The 3 areas for that are status effect recovery, HP/MP recovery and revival. A healer being able to do 2 of those at a given time is how you can consider them pretty good. The problem with the lower tier healers is that they often can do something like status recovery easily but their HP healing is only one T4 heal.resulting in 2000~2500 HP when you need more. The addition of the T5 heal healing for like 8000~ resolves that and is part of the reason Ayaka is considered really good. The other component is having Reraise or Arise (Full Raise) as those are very handy to have for obvious reasons.
I often talked about how good a healer Luka is because she manages to do a ton along these dimensions with her major weakness being revival abilities. But, if you don't die as much in a fight, then you don't need to revive so. =P
With a healer, the metric should be how many things can I get off in one turn in regards to healing. The 3 areas for that are status effect recovery, HP/MP recovery and revival. A healer being able to do 2 of those at a given time is how you can consider them pretty good. The problem with the lower tier healers is that they often can do something like status recovery easily but their HP healing is only one T4 heal.resulting in 2000~2500 HP when you need more. The addition of the T5 heal healing for like 8000~ resolves that and is part of the reason Ayaka is considered really good. The other component is having Reraise or Arise (Full Raise) as those are very handy to have for obvious reasons.
I often talked about how good a healer Luka is because she manages to do a ton along these dimensions with her major weakness being revival abilities. But, if you don't die as much in a fight, then you don't need to revive so. =P
Hippopuncher12
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haha okay, maybe it's the computer I was using. I will try one of my other ones tonight to see if I can get it to work.
hikarutilmitt
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So, quoting myself from everyone saying the 10+1 tickets don't give banner units: they absolutely do. I used mine (sadly, for science) and Orran was one of the many 4* units that came with it.
frak, where is my Meliadoul
Squall ASF
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My lapis and tickets are ready for the one true goddess, Ayaka. Forget that skittle sprite monstrosity. Just have to be patient but I really don't think it will be much longer. I wouldn't be surprised at all if she came by the end of the month but I'd say next month is the latest. Granted, Gummi could pull a "too strong, delaaaaaaay". I don't really buy the comment though, Balthier isn't as strong as multiple units already in the game so it's clearly just to make a crappy banner more valuable. Someone made the excellent suggestion that he might appear in the Noctis Japan banner with the two FFBE units. That makes perfect sense. They know Balthier will be a carrot so save it for a weak banner and the masses will pull. Ayaka being a FFBE unit, I don't think they'll pull this with her but we shall see!
Hippopuncher12
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I don't think anyone said they didn't give "banner" units, (or if they did they are certainly wrong) I believe people were saying they don't give limited units. Which has actually also been proven incorrect. The 10+1 ticket will have a chance at any regular unit in the pool regardless if they are on the banner or not, and they can also contain limited units that are currently in the pool just obviously not those that have are gone.
Squall ASF
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No way I'm spending those 10+1s until the crystal change. I used the first one we got with Anniversary while the Tidus banner was running and the pure trash I received makes it incredibly easy to resist until that change makes it even slightly more likely of getting something useful. We need all the help we can get when it can't be used towards a specific banner.
I'm sharing a Tidus in the 900's ATK who's using Brotherhood and Apoc so he won't have an issue with this trial. He'll get stronger when I finish a Shine I'm farming for him but he's still in the 900's in the meantime so hopefully he can help you with this strategy
I'm sharing a Tidus in the 900's ATK who's using Brotherhood and Apoc so he won't have an issue with this trial. He'll get stronger when I finish a Shine I'm farming for him but he's still in the 900's in the meantime so hopefully he can help you with this strategy
jasminlovesyoux
Banned
No way I'm spending those 10+1s until the crystal change. I used the first one we got with Anniversary while the Tidus banner was running and the pure trash I received makes it incredibly easy to resist until that change makes it even slightly more likely of getting something useful. We need all the help we can get when it can't be used towards a specific banner.
I'm sharing a Tidus in the 900's ATK who's using Brotherhood and Apoc so he won't have an issue with this trial. He'll get stronger when I finish a Shine I'm farming for him but he's still in the 900's in the meantime so hopefully he can help you with this strategy
I burnt my first 10+1 the exact same way with the same results. Never again.
Best thing about Ayaka is dualcasting reraise and AoE full heal every turn. I rarely ever need to do anything else but if I do, AoE every ailment heal is fantastic when needed, though it can't be dualcasted with an HP heal spell. She has MP battery and AoE Arise like Tilith so... yeah, she is almost perfect.
Yuna is great because she has reraise, ProShelgga + the most important BarGas, but the lack of a good heal and niche BarGas sometimes can bite you in the ass. She requires W White Magic Rod or Dualcast materia (better because you can use the BarGas and heal).
Garnet is also great because of her AoE
turns +40% all elements + good heal skill (better than Curaja but not Curada). Her raise and enhanced Curaja kinda sucks and she requires the W White Magic Rod or Dualcast materia though. It's pretty easy to make her invulnerable to all elements you need for any battle.
I don't have CG Fina, but I guess her spammable LB and AoE +45% all element resist make her the best by default as she has all of Ayaka's relevant skills. She really only lacks stone and stop ailment heal.
Yuna is great because she has reraise, ProShelgga + the most important BarGas, but the lack of a good heal and niche BarGas sometimes can bite you in the ass. She requires W White Magic Rod or Dualcast materia (better because you can use the BarGas and heal).
Garnet is also great because of her AoE
turns +40% all elements + good heal skill (better than Curaja but not Curada). Her raise and enhanced Curaja kinda sucks and she requires the W White Magic Rod or Dualcast materia though. It's pretty easy to make her invulnerable to all elements you need for any battle.
I don't have CG Fina, but I guess her spammable LB and AoE +45% all element resist make her the best by default as she has all of Ayaka's relevant skills. She really only lacks stone and stop ailment heal.
jasminlovesyoux
Banned
This is a pretty handy breakdown. Thanks. I want Ayaka pretty badly.