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Final Fantasy [Mafia] |OT| Living in a Materia World, and I am a Materia Girl
- Thread starter ScraftyDevil
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Blargonaut
Banned
*I do need to say, I meant the above as a joke reference to bringing back Seath's account from his ban; my sincere apologies if the timing has any possible unintended offense.
Blargonaut
Banned
WELL.
I TOO, CAN PERSONALLY CORROBORATE THESE FACTS.
I TOO, CAN PERSONALLY CORROBORATE THESE FACTS.
Blargonaut
Banned
Blargonaut
Banned
hmmm, caps?
CAPS?
CAPS!
CAPS!
Caps.
CAPS.
CAPS!?
*sigh*
CaPs?
cApS!!
No, fuck
FUUUUUUUUCK
...
hmmm
CAPS?
CAPS!
CAPS!
Caps.
CAPS.
CAPS!?
*sigh*
CaPs?
cApS!!
No, fuck
FUUUUUUUUCK
...
hmmm
If so, does that mean that you Respond either the blocker or the switcher?
Anything else you want to add to the bare table that this game is currently?
Don't just float by do something!
Can you explain that line of thought ?
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
I believe Nin, but I think I need the switcher to corroborate. Once he/she does, I'd be comfortable revealing my role.
StackpoleH
Member
Really sorry everyone & sorry ScraftyDevil for being MIA. Major major crisis at work yesterday & today. I'll check in in the afternoon with more
StackpoleH
Member
Also, while I'm online, want to say I'm a little suspicious of nin's claim. Why would a switcher of any alignment switch a mafia with another mafia? And what happened to Seath? None of it adds up.
Nin, can you go through each night and explain why you selected each target?
Also, to address Blargonaut's question of me yesterday, I do realize I was wrong about Darryl. People were speculating that the double vote power isn't necessarily a town power and I thought the way he was using it was suspicious. But I was wrong.
What did you mean that you have personal knowledge of nin's claims?
Nin, can you go through each night and explain why you selected each target?
Also, to address Blargonaut's question of me yesterday, I do realize I was wrong about Darryl. People were speculating that the double vote power isn't necessarily a town power and I thought the way he was using it was suspicious. But I was wrong.
What did you mean that you have personal knowledge of nin's claims?
Try to think again then.
Well, the switcher switched 2 fucking players. He did not know either of their alignments.
We knew that xam was mafia after he was killed and that hyper was one aswell after he was lynched.
Nope, not at this point.
But I feel reassured that my vote is on the right person.
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
Ok, here's my analysis. There 4 roles we know exist, if we believe Nin (and I have no way of contesting it, so I believe it's true):
A switcher
A mafia
A vig
A bulletproof
Counting my role, that's 5 roles accounted for and 6 players remaining. It's not unreasonable to expect the last role is probably an ordinary one. I think at this point, it's a matter of figuring out who has which role.
As I've said, I'm none of these 4 listed above.
I think Nin is the vig; his actions make sense. It especially makes sense when you think that him and I have been on the same page for most of the game; his targets have been in line with our thinking. Unless there's a vig to contest this claim, I don't know why we should not believe it.
That leads to the next point. If a switcher exists, and if we believe Nin's claim, one has to, he/she can corroborate Nin's actions. My preference is that, if they agree with my analysis, they step forward. If I believe Nin's claim, then I have to believe this was a town switcher that was goofing around and accidentally switched two mafia, not a scum switcher.
As for the bulletproof, well, we know the doctor is dead; we have no evidence of an RB. I think we either have a commuter or something similar on our hands.
If the switcher and BP come forward, I think we may be able to piece together who among the remaining 3 is the mafia.
A switcher
A mafia
A vig
A bulletproof
Counting my role, that's 5 roles accounted for and 6 players remaining. It's not unreasonable to expect the last role is probably an ordinary one. I think at this point, it's a matter of figuring out who has which role.
As I've said, I'm none of these 4 listed above.
I think Nin is the vig; his actions make sense. It especially makes sense when you think that him and I have been on the same page for most of the game; his targets have been in line with our thinking. Unless there's a vig to contest this claim, I don't know why we should not believe it.
That leads to the next point. If a switcher exists, and if we believe Nin's claim, one has to, he/she can corroborate Nin's actions. My preference is that, if they agree with my analysis, they step forward. If I believe Nin's claim, then I have to believe this was a town switcher that was goofing around and accidentally switched two mafia, not a scum switcher.
As for the bulletproof, well, we know the doctor is dead; we have no evidence of an RB. I think we either have a commuter or something similar on our hands.
If the switcher and BP come forward, I think we may be able to piece together who among the remaining 3 is the mafia.
You have, I targeted Sorian on n1 but was blocked.
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
Ok, I missed this part.
Even better, though. Replace what I said about BP with an RB. Hell, if the RB comes forward and says who he/she blocked, that's game over.
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
If there was no kill last night, so the roleblock must have succeeded. So, whoever was roleblocked must be the mafia, right?
Blargonaut
Banned
I dunno
You smell, so delicious
You're not too tall, you're not too short, you're not too round hrummph
Don't be so hasty
Alright, how 'bout...
▶...now?
nah
They're not mine
That was my guess aswell and the reason I claimed in order to put the cards down.
Blargonaut
Banned
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
I feel like I've missed a lot of shit in this game. I need to work on reading every damn thing..
Ok, Blarg, lay it on us. Who did you block?
Ok, Blarg, lay it on us. Who did you block?
ScraftyDevil
Banned
Do you need some water, mistress?
ScraftyDevil
Banned
Hyperactivity
Banned
Every other player in this game please. What the fuck is going on.
Currently on the cinema watching the revenant. Due to some technical issues the film stopped 30 minutes in. Now I am waiting :/
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
Seriously.
Pop-O-Matic
Banned
StackpoleH...eh...her defense for the Darryl vote seems reasonable enough, and I do agree with them on nin's switcher claim (as I said before, there's no reason for a town switcher to protect Hyper like that, since pretty much everyone with at least a lick of common sense would have known they were scum at that point, and it doesn't make sense for a scum switcher to have protected Hyper like that because they switched him with Xam, another scum player), but they don't exactly have the best voting record and their low profile and activity is definitely sus, so I'm on the fence about them right now...
Well, I mean, it seems pretty obvious at this point. There's only 6 players left (assuming Seath is actually dead and not getting replaced). Assuming there's only one scum left, they don't get lynched and they don't get roleblocked or hit a bulletproof, we'll be down to 2 players (and therefore a scum win) within 2 nights. Of couse, I said "at most" since there's just as good a chance that there's still 2 scum, which means this could very well be our last day phase if we don't nail a scum today.
I'm still not too keen on the idea that Seath was just modkilled by Scrafty and that she didn't reveal the role PM to fuck with us. Either a replacement is on the way or someone did something to hide Seath's flip from us, a la the Sorian/Neuromancer scenario in Call of Cthulhu...
Well, I mean, it seems pretty obvious at this point. There's only 6 players left (assuming Seath is actually dead and not getting replaced). Assuming there's only one scum left, they don't get lynched and they don't get roleblocked or hit a bulletproof, we'll be down to 2 players (and therefore a scum win) within 2 nights. Of couse, I said "at most" since there's just as good a chance that there's still 2 scum, which means this could very well be our last day phase if we don't nail a scum today.
I'm still not too keen on the idea that Seath was just modkilled by Scrafty and that she didn't reveal the role PM to fuck with us. Either a replacement is on the way or someone did something to hide Seath's flip from us, a la the Sorian/Neuromancer scenario in Call of Cthulhu...
StackpoleH
Member
May I ask the reason for your suspicion of me? Is it just because I haven't been able to check in as regularly as I would like? Or do you have any questions I can respond to?
I guess I can see a town switcher believing only one of xam or hyper was town. Still, it seems unlucky. Would love to hear from the switcher
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
I don't believe that's the case at all. Seath said he/she was withdrawing; why would mafia target him/her?
It's possible that Seath's role had a stipulation that it would not be revealed if killed, but that has nothing to do with the mafia. The mafia, if we're guessing there's only one left, has never used this kind of ability before. Why use it on the person that's leaving the game, of all people?
No, Pop. The mafia was roleblocked.
Or, more to the point, you were roleblocked. I don't see anyone trying to spin yarns as hard as you are now.
VOTE: Pop-O-Matic
Hyperactivity
Banned
Pop-O-Matic
Banned
1) It didn't matter if Seath was leaving the game. An alternate is almost always provided unless the pool of willing players not in games is exhausted.
2) If Seath was modkilled, why weren't we informed of his death in Retro's recount post that came after Seath made the post announcing his departure? Or at some point during the night phase? If it was suppose to be a modkill, it should have been made clear that it was such immediately after the decision was made rather than giving us such a mysterious and vague post at the start of the next day? It just doesn't sound like good moderation.
3) Seath's role PM not being revealed is also pretty disconcerting. Not revealing the role PM just because she feels like not doing so is incredibly terrible moderation, and I don't think that Scrafty would be the kind of mod to do that. I'm willing to accept that Seath might have had an ability to hide his role upon death, but that's, at best, a neutral ability and most likely a scum ability, but I don't think we'd have 2 scum players who both have abilities that trigger on death.
4) Why hasn't scum used this power before? Something as game-bending as this is probably a 1-shot ability, and they probably wouldn't have wanted to save it for the moment it would create the most confusion rather than blowing it early.
5) And that brings us to the "why would scum do this?" question. Which, once again, is to create confusion. As you said before, them killing a player who had announced his departure, especially with the ability used leading to such a peculiar exit, it's going to lead to everyone asking questions about what happened. From there, I guess scum could try to claim that it was just a modkill and that scum was roleblocked, knowing that, since they weren't blocked, that they would be leading town to lynch another townie...
I mean, it's not like this is the first sus thing you've done this game, Launch. You started the train that ended up killing our cop, and, the following day, tried to dissuade us from the obvious scum that was still claiming to be cop even after the real cop had flipped. Between that and you trying to sell the narrative that Seath was modkilled despite the evidence to the contrary, and I feel this has to happen.
Vote: LaunchpadMcQ
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
1) Obviously, that wasn't the case. There has been no replacement. This announcement would have been made either before the night phase started or before the night phase ended. There were people signed up for replacements, so we know it wasn't because of lack of availability.
2) The decision was likely made when Scrafty came back from wherever, as Retro who is the co-mod was the one who announced the day end. That's not hard to figure out.
3) I believe it was part of Seath's role PM. This kind of thing has happened before, as you've stated.
4&5) How would scum know this would be a more confusing situation? Do they have powers to see into the future and see that Scrafty would make a super confusing post and that we'd argue over it? Is that seriously what you're suggesting? Mafia had no reason to kill Seath if he/she was on their way out. Scrafty can't approach the mafia and tell them to kill someone specifically, which is literally the only scenario I can come up with where the mafia would have targeted Seath - in order to save the mods some trouble by doing this within the games rules. Which, I should say, is really dumb because it would be a wasted kill that the mafia could use more strategically if there's a chance that the mods will end up modkilling this person anyway, thus not having to use a nightaction on him/her.
So, no, I don't buy your bullshit, Pop. I also find it pretty funny that you're targeting me. Suspect things? You mean being wrong? Because, hate to break it to you, but it happens.
I'm not selling any narrative. Unless I'm misunderstanding what transpired, I am sure that Seath was modkilled to save time so that the new season can start.
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
I hate to call on people directly, but I need some support here, Nin and Blarg. Unless there's something wrong with what I've said, I'm pretty sure you guys can see where I'm going here.
Just came home From the cinema.
Ofc I will support you launch,since you are making the most fucking sense.
What the hell is wrong with you pop in nor believing in me.
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op-o-maticStackpoleH
Member
So curious to hear these facts!
