That seems reasonable, looking at her BSB now it seems like she's just a physical (and better?) version of Edea's BSB which I do have. Out of curiosity why would you recommend getting that over Raines BSB though? People seem to make a big deal out of that one and from what little I've seen it does make it seem like he trivalizes two of the MD's.
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That seems reasonable, looking at her BSB now it seems like she's just a physical (and better?) version of Edea's BSB which I do have. Out of curiosity why would you recommend getting that over Raines BSB though? People seem to make a big deal out of that one and from what little I've seen it does make it seem like he trivalizes two of the MD's.
Wound up taking Larsa BSB for the mythril choice; digging around on reddit saw other people with almost the exact same setup/question as me and Y'shtola seems like maaaaybe the "safer" choice if she's fully LD (which she's not for me), but also many people pointed out Relm BSB can still ultimately get you through pretty much anything anyway. So Larsa seemed the better choice in terms of versatility if I needed to swap him in for a specific fight or whatever.
Pulled on the gem banner, went 1/11 Lightning BSB2 which is like my 4th copy of that, and picked Raines BSB, seemed way tot safe of an option to not just go ahead and grab his. The 1/11 dupe is pretty much exactly why I very rarely do gem pulls though -_-.
Not doing endgame content/Raids for months has kind of screwed me on being able to LD people though, so I'm not going to be able to LD Raines for a good while but that's just gravy I suppose.
Pulled on the gem banner, went 1/11 Lightning BSB2 which is like my 4th copy of that, and picked Raines BSB, seemed way tot safe of an option to not just go ahead and grab his. The 1/11 dupe is pretty much exactly why I very rarely do gem pulls though -_-.
Not doing endgame content/Raids for months has kind of screwed me on being able to LD people though, so I'm not going to be able to LD Raines for a good while but that's just gravy I suppose.
Yeah, I've only done one or two Jumpstarts and literally one one Torment so I know I've got a good source there. When I was semi-burnt out on the game as well as too busy to dedicate any time to it I made sure to at least clear the MC3 portion of events and even though I missed out on Raids/A+ content I knew JS/Torments would loop back around so I could get to them later. Right now I'm sitting down to try to clear the CT on Hard then maybe see about the Omega stuff, and then start working on the Torments that are currently available.
4* Wisdom (I think?) motes are my hard chokepoint right now for sure, even being largely gone for a while I have literally thousands of the 3* motes, and I have 200+ of all of the other 4* motes but zero Wisdom motes. Okay game. I've got Vaan fully dived and I'm about 30% of the way on Bartz, I'll need to see if he overlaps with Raines or not. I hadn't decided on who to dive after Bartz, was leaning towards Cecil with his USB + Gaffgarion's RM4 but we'll see.
Holy and Dark magicites under 30 secs, or how I ended up loving the Chains.
Getting the Dark magicite under it took me as much effort as all the others combined. The trick is to do whatever it takes not to trigger the Black Fang attack.
Holy Magicite - 20:42
Dark Magicite - 26:87
Getting the Dark magicite under it took me as much effort as all the others combined. The trick is to do whatever it takes not to trigger the Black Fang attack.
Holy Magicite - 20:42
Dark Magicite - 26:87
I just tanked it and 4manned a sub30 because Cid BSB is hilarious.
Elarra's ATK/MAG/Haste really made a difference for me (have no OKBSB/Rikku USB) so I'm probably going to go round the element wheel to sub30 stuff. Previously only really tried for Sea Lion for Ice orbs.
edit: Holy Dragon protip:
The fight is just relentless AOE. There are no breaks whatsoever (well, a 3-target Holy spell hardly counts as a break). There's two subtle factors that help:
- none of the attacks are piercing, which is rare for high level content. Hence stacking res (dives, equipment, SBs) really helps
- Mist Form is 100% predictable. It lasts ~3secs and is a breather to catch up on healing or wraths/etc.
Mechanics of Mist form is it triggers either:
On turn 6 if >80%
On turn 8 if >40%
Otherwise on turn 10
Put another way,
Mist form is
a 3-sec breather at ~15s if >80% hp
OR
a 3-sec breather at ~20s if >40% hp
OR
a 3-sec breather at ~25s if not dead
Anticipating and using it to heal up is 100% doable, - kept it above 40% hp at ~20s for a healing break for the first few sub-30s clears.
Elarra's ATK/MAG/Haste really made a difference for me (have no OKBSB/Rikku USB) so I'm probably going to go round the element wheel to sub30 stuff. Previously only really tried for Sea Lion for Ice orbs.
edit: Holy Dragon protip:
The fight is just relentless AOE. There are no breaks whatsoever (well, a 3-target Holy spell hardly counts as a break). There's two subtle factors that help:
- none of the attacks are piercing, which is rare for high level content. Hence stacking res (dives, equipment, SBs) really helps
- Mist Form is 100% predictable. It lasts ~3secs and is a breather to catch up on healing or wraths/etc.
Mechanics of Mist form is it triggers either:
On turn 6 if >80%
On turn 8 if >40%
Otherwise on turn 10
Put another way,
Mist form is
a 3-sec breather at ~15s if >80% hp
OR
a 3-sec breather at ~20s if >40% hp
OR
a 3-sec breather at ~25s if not dead
Anticipating and using it to heal up is 100% doable, - kept it above 40% hp at ~20s for a healing break for the first few sub-30s clears.
Man Called Aerodynamics
Member
Wasn't pretty, but all Magicites cleared. I attempted a Galuf tanks Black Fang strat. Still needs some fine tuning. 
Raines was the ONLY DPS for the entire fight.
Raines was the ONLY DPS for the entire fight. 
i can't even get that far...
i generally die in about 20 seconds with 2 healers as it is..
i should mention that i have only finished 2 magicites as well using radiant shield turtling but that won't work here..
I finished the MP omega by H&R all 3 times but i don't have that option here.
i generally die in about 20 seconds with 2 healers as it is..
i should mention that i have only finished 2 magicites as well using radiant shield turtling but that won't work here..
I finished the MP omega by H&R all 3 times but i don't have that option here.
i do.......
my setup is
cloud > lifesiphon, hailstorm - usb, bsb 2 | thunder god thingy
ramza > full break, wrath - shout, chant | mako's might
tyro > wrath, shellga - SG | dr mog
selphie > curaja, stop - usb | ace striker
rosa > ultra cure, protecga - usb | knight's charge
my rw i was trying was cloud's usb to save myself a stock of sb.
yup, 3 of them has major resist accessory and the other 2 as moderate to ko.
my setup is
cloud > lifesiphon, hailstorm - usb, bsb 2 | thunder god thingy
ramza > full break, wrath - shout, chant | mako's might
tyro > wrath, shellga - SG | dr mog
selphie > curaja, stop - usb | ace striker
rosa > ultra cure, protecga - usb | knight's charge
my rw i was trying was cloud's usb to save myself a stock of sb.
yup, 3 of them has major resist accessory and the other 2 as moderate to ko.
my dmg is shit...
i generally will die after 2 x LS and hailstorm and then i would use RW on cloud... i have yet to actually survive after this point...
the 2 healers never have enough time to even get a soul break bar to cast anything...
my plan after using RW on cloud was to do bsb 2 and them spam cmd 1 but i just can't get there fast enough. I should mention the only magicite dungeon i have beaten is living flame and sealion and i have zero characters full dived.
i generally will die after 2 x LS and hailstorm and then i would use RW on cloud... i have yet to actually survive after this point...
the 2 healers never have enough time to even get a soul break bar to cast anything...
my plan after using RW on cloud was to do bsb 2 and them spam cmd 1 but i just can't get there fast enough. I should mention the only magicite dungeon i have beaten is living flame and sealion and i have zero characters full dived.
Put the SB bar starters on Tyro and Ramza to get SG and Shout up asap. Your SG has to get up immediately in every fight where it's relevant or you will die, plan and simple. Put Pro/Shell up later if needed but SG/SS and Haste have to be up at all times, always.
Put a second Wrath and something like Ace Striker on Rosa so she can USB by turn 3. Have Selphie curebomb until then. Then start the Cloud thing after that.
Put a second Wrath and something like Ace Striker on Rosa so she can USB by turn 3. Have Selphie curebomb until then. Then start the Cloud thing after that.
Watch out with Hailstorm. I sometimes don't use it unless I'm confident on my defenses... that RES down can wreck many a character.
DukeLongfellow
Member
While everyone is doing Magicite stuff (which I still need to figure out at all) I am concentrating on crushing my straggling Nightmares one by one.
Omega Drive fell to an amazing string of luck. First OK's OSB Critted launching him into phase 3 and Sephy was endarked with his SSB just in time for his OSB to do 70k damage on the boss even with dark resist.
Quadruple Foul fell fairly easily but I had to look up the strategy after the first horrific fail. Very technical.
I am 3 Black Crystals away from honing Meltdown to R2 which is my goal. I planned on going for Valigarmanda next but seeing how chasing Alphi's BSB (or any Summon Ether SB) is simply not panning out I am giving up on the idea. Instead, I looked at my Crystals and decided (maybe rashly) on these two:
1. Create Omega Drive
2. Create and hone Dervish (now at 8x hits after the buff) to R2.
Trying it out, Dervish has some amazing damage when paired with Noctis's USB (which boosts non-elemental damage). Could see a lot of use considering a lot of bosses seem to be omniresist lately.
Now I only have to do Valigarmanda and Affliction Break. And I attempted Valigarmanda months ago last. Summon hones are a bitch.
Omega Drive fell to an amazing string of luck. First OK's OSB Critted launching him into phase 3 and Sephy was endarked with his SSB just in time for his OSB to do 70k damage on the boss even with dark resist.
Quadruple Foul fell fairly easily but I had to look up the strategy after the first horrific fail. Very technical.
I am 3 Black Crystals away from honing Meltdown to R2 which is my goal. I planned on going for Valigarmanda next but seeing how chasing Alphi's BSB (or any Summon Ether SB) is simply not panning out I am giving up on the idea. Instead, I looked at my Crystals and decided (maybe rashly) on these two:
1. Create Omega Drive
2. Create and hone Dervish (now at 8x hits after the buff) to R2.
Trying it out, Dervish has some amazing damage when paired with Noctis's USB (which boosts non-elemental damage). Could see a lot of use considering a lot of bosses seem to be omniresist lately.
Now I only have to do Valigarmanda and Affliction Break. And I attempted Valigarmanda months ago last. Summon hones are a bitch.
ah screw it... too damn frustrating with the paralyze or whatever... and stop not hitting blah blah blah blah
actually.. its more... omega gets 3 turns WHILE i am casting stop... REALLY?!?!!
for that matter.. how the heck are ppl stop locking him? stop wears out before the same white mage even gets her action...
actually.. its more... omega gets 3 turns WHILE i am casting stop... REALLY?!?!!
for that matter.. how the heck are ppl stop locking him? stop wears out before the same white mage even gets her action...
Omega has ~650 Mind at phase 2 IIRC. Stop lasts 4 secs with equal mind, so you're going to need some Mind buffs along with Mind Breakdown for Stop to take any meaningful impact with one Stop user.
Mind Breakdown should buy you almost 3 seconds on its own. If you have a Sagega BSB (ideally heal) that buys another 3 seconds, which bumps the stop time to over two turn cycles.
edit: It really is still an RNGfest and the offset is you only need it to work once and be done with the fight.
edit: It really is still an RNGfest and the offset is you only need it to work once and be done with the fight.
Man Called Aerodynamics
Member
The bonus battles for Dissidia were easy... but the raids were fucking ridiculous. So frustrating to sit through the bosses taking five turns for every one your party members take.
Random Painted HIghway
Member
The lag is killer. My Yuna usb was setting on full red while naearly everyone attacked or was hit causing a party wipe. Just ridiculous. I have one more to do.
ActStriker
Member
2/11 on Crystal Tower. Dupe Rosa SSB and a Cloud BSB!
It was the 1st Fusion Sword!
whee!
Ended up taking Fujin's BSB. Was down to that, Beatrix's BSB, or Larsa's BSB
It was the 1st Fusion Sword!
whee!
Ended up taking Fujin's BSB. Was down to that, Beatrix's BSB, or Larsa's BSB
those raids for Dissida were something else.
Lol, had one raid leader last night who revived the party twice with 20% offence boost to clear through the last one. It almost seems like you need to burn a Last Stand SB right at the start of the fight just in case.
The first raid, I guess I joined a good team that was pure dark damage with a dark chain - wrecked anything and everything before it even had a chance.
The lag was ridiculous though, My Raines on Instacast sat for a few turns while the system caught up - it was pretty funny.
Also cleared Shadow Dragon Magicite after fully diving Beatrix - she is a monster with Knight Doublecast, that thing procs way more than any other double cast LM I've seen so far.
Lol, had one raid leader last night who revived the party twice with 20% offence boost to clear through the last one. It almost seems like you need to burn a Last Stand SB right at the start of the fight just in case.
The first raid, I guess I joined a good team that was pure dark damage with a dark chain - wrecked anything and everything before it even had a chance.
The lag was ridiculous though, My Raines on Instacast sat for a few turns while the system caught up - it was pretty funny.
Also cleared Shadow Dragon Magicite after fully diving Beatrix - she is a monster with Knight Doublecast, that thing procs way more than any other double cast LM I've seen so far.
Should be 35% which would be in line with other LM2 percentages. LMR's are 25% IIRC.
I think Vivi has the highest chance at dualcast under Trance mode at 50%.
I really should dive Beatrix, considering I have her SSBs/BSB and LMR. (and going with the whole "LD all FFIX characters" thing I'm doing), but those Spirit Motes are valueable.
Man Called Aerodynamics
Member
I would dive Beatrix, except I don't have her 4* dive completed yet. In some cases 4* motes are more of a bottleneck for me than 5*.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
I just noticed that the FFRK friend site shut down. It was so well designed too.
Random Painted HIghway
Member
Dark magicite is so obnoxious. My fingers arent as swift as they used to be for quick presses. I can avoid the fang but it takes a few runs to get it just right with cids bsb and OSB (thanks banner 5 for the OSB).
Now the mist dragon I can roll under 30s really easily using cid and vayne. I thought vaynes OSB would be useless when I pulled it in the six star pull and now it's highly useful. Vayne for magic in that combo. Glad I r3d dark zone eons ago.
Now the mist dragon I can roll under 30s really easily using cid and vayne. I thought vaynes OSB would be useless when I pulled it in the six star pull and now it's highly useful. Vayne for magic in that combo. Glad I r3d dark zone eons ago.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
Yeah, our group used 3 Raines, sheepsong, and 3 healers to spam and heal.
So my first 10ish tries on Omega Apex were a complete waste because I didn't know it had 80% break resist. I'll need to RW wall. Thinking about this:
Healer 1 - Vanille - BSB, legend dive
Healer 2 - Relm or Eiko USB. Have to decide between stoneskin/nocharge and last stand
Support - Ramza shout
DPS - Vaan or Bartz or Lightning. All legend dive. Leaning towards Bartz.
Flex - Curilla USB for extra buffs and radiant shield or another dps from above.
Am I thinking with the right head here?
Healer 1 - Vanille - BSB, legend dive
Healer 2 - Relm or Eiko USB. Have to decide between stoneskin/nocharge and last stand
Support - Ramza shout
DPS - Vaan or Bartz or Lightning. All legend dive. Leaning towards Bartz.
Flex - Curilla USB for extra buffs and radiant shield or another dps from above.
Am I thinking with the right head here?
firehawk12
Subete no aware
I wasn't paying attention to this at all but it's crazy that he basically had bots playing the game constantly just to mine all that data.
I was just thinking about what happens when a fansite just shuts down like this and whether or not the community will lose the information since he decided to wipe his site entirely rather than pass it on and open it up. I guess you just have to deal with whatever archive.org saves, but obviously, all that tech and knowledge is just gone.
Also lol:
I wonder what that represents in terms of the total economy of the Global server.
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Man, don't have the deeps to beat Squall, even with an all mage imperil dark team. Being forced to fight bosses without mitigation feels bad.
Random Painted HIghway
Member
wow, I just lucked into a pug group on stage II with raines, seph and exdeath (imperil) 2 healers (relm bsb, ysh bsb) and me with tyro (wall) and yuna (usb). that was a walkover, frankly.
now for the tedium of the torment 250....
now for the tedium of the torment 250....
Random Painted HIghway
Member
This lucky draw tomorrow hasnt the potential to be really ugly for me. 33/96 with 10 relics reforged. Crossing fingers for zacks bsb and of course clouds usb
Finally LD Raines and yep, he's a monster. Melted Mist dragon with only him and Shadow as dps under 35 seconds, I need to try to get it under 30...
Now I'll try a similar team (Raines, Lenna, Yuna, OK + somebody else) but with a holy guy, I'm thinking WOL (USB) or maybe even Celes with her BSB2. Does Runic do something in this fight?
And yes, this MP was hard as fuck. I solo'd it with just expert and it was a royal pain, specially the stupid monkey.
Now I'll try a similar team (Raines, Lenna, Yuna, OK + somebody else) but with a holy guy, I'm thinking WOL (USB) or maybe even Celes with her BSB2. Does Runic do something in this fight?
And yes, this MP was hard as fuck. I solo'd it with just expert and it was a royal pain, specially the stupid monkey.
Cloud USB strikes down another D300 Torment (3-man CM)... although I must say there aren't a lot of suitable physical fire options to use it with. Cyan came through with the new samurai ability.
Farming FFVI Torment
Farming FFVI Torment
Zippedpinhead
Member
If I already have yshtolas burst, Orlandeaus burst, terra, Fujin and aeriths burst. What is the next best one to pull from the crystal tower draw?
Im leaning Beatrix because I have her OSB and a bunch of her SSBs. But I want to see what everyone else thinks before I pull.
Im leaning Beatrix because I have her OSB and a bunch of her SSBs. But I want to see what everyone else thinks before I pull.
Random Painted HIghway
Member
Good luck. High hones of ice abilities, there are a ton of them thankfully. Valigarmanda if you have alphinaud bsb. Turtle mode with damage reflect?
Choose to fill synergy or improve a character. If you have Beatrix OSB, I'd probably go bsb to boost her stats and then feed her entrust bars. Imperil followed by OSB is going to be great.
No Damage reflect, sadly, but I do have Alphinaud's BSB and USB. Would it be worth using his USB in the rotation, or just save SB gauge for his BSB and spam, Vali?
Man Called Aerodynamics
Member
FF6 D200 CM. Locke's imperil followed by spamming Terra OSB made pretty short work of this.
D250. No interesting strat, just ignore adds and burn him down as fast as possible with Butz and Refia's fancy fire stuff.
D300 Jump Start. Poor Celes, she's used to being the star of the team, but here she was kind of a third wheel, only present to fulfill the CM requirement and contribute a couple of Flaming Twinstrikes. Locke's BSB was awesome here because in addition to the fire imperil, a quick CMD1 fulfilled the medal requirements for debuffing.
D250. No interesting strat, just ignore adds and burn him down as fast as possible with Butz and Refia's fancy fire stuff.
D300 Jump Start. Poor Celes, she's used to being the star of the team, but here she was kind of a third wheel, only present to fulfill the CM requirement and contribute a couple of Flaming Twinstrikes. Locke's BSB was awesome here because in addition to the fire imperil, a quick CMD1 fulfilled the medal requirements for debuffing.
