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Final Fantasy: Record Keeper |OT3| When having no onions makes you cry

Pejo

Pejo

Member
Got enough Mythril back to use the gems I had left and do that CT relic summon. Got Selphie USB, Laguna BSB, and Cid Raines SSB - Took Cloud of Darkness BSB from the selector. Not the best since I never use a healer and FF8 isn't one of my favorites, but whatever, I mainly wanted the CoD burst anyways.

Man I really want that Garland Chain SB... I have a pretty ridiculous Dark team right now.
 
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Ahnez

Member
Crystal Tower pull: 1/11, but it was Rinoa's CSB. And choose Fujin BSB

Now I have the grand total of two ice SBs, and both are for Rinoa.
 
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Random Painted HIghway

Member
Took down Omega in 25.08.

Bismark takedown team mostly
Lightning lmr usb bsb2 ld
Shan csb ld
Tgcid OSB
Relm stop duty
Rikku usb

Bismark magicite
Wall rw

First round life siphon rikku usb wall
Second round life siphon mug chain
Third round life siphon Bismark tempest snipe
Fourth round lightning usb

Hold relm and hope stop sticks. Launch osbs and bsb2s. Took a couple tries to get it down.
 
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AdawgDaFAB

Member
Did my Tower pull last night. 1/11, Yuna Dragon's Roar SSB. I use her for her BSB2, so likely never going to use this SSB. Guess it's at least +10 for a regular party member. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Ended up going with Fuu for the selection. Now I'll probably end up pulling it again on the next VIII LD.
 
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Kenai

Member
firehawk12 said:
I haven't tried it yet, but is Crystal Tower basically a gear check to see if you have 25 characters ready to fight bosses?
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Character check maybe but you can switch gear and skills around every time. Stretched my boostgas and healer bsbs a bit thin but otherwise not too rough
 
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Falk

that puzzling face
You can reuse abilities/RM/etc.

But essentially, kinda, although the bar on that would be pretty low.
 
Pejo

Pejo

Member
Falk said:
You can reuse abilities/RM/etc.

But essentially, kinda, although the bar on that would be pretty low.
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I just noticed it locks out characters you already used. Nuts. Does the final fight make everyone available again, or should I have saved my "A team" for that one?
 
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firehawk12

Subete no aware
Pejo said:
I just noticed it locks out characters you already used. Nuts. Does the final fight make everyone available again, or should I have saved my "A team" for that one?
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Yeah, final fight lets you use everyone you used before.

The normal version should be easy to brute force. The hard one, maybe I'll just do as much as I can for the rewards.
 
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Negator

Member
Compared to ultimate+ torments and magicite, the CT final boss was pretty tame. I just went in with my best dudes and blew him up.
 
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Falk

that puzzling face
the hardest part about the ct boss is that its hideously ugly

like its so ugly im pretty sure we were going to get apology mythril for being forced to look at it

thats how ugly were talking
 
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Starwolf_UK

Member
firehawk12 said:
Yeah, final fight lets you use everyone you used before.

The normal version should be easy to brute force. The hard one, maybe I'll just do as much as I can for the rewards.
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I believe if you get really stuck and don't care about beating Chaos you can abort the attempt if you really want completion rewards from each of the five stages.
 
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ultra7k

Member
Back to the magicite grind.

Ended up pulling Squall's BSB2 on P3 of the draws, it has trivialized the Fenrir fight which is nice since Ice was previously my weakest element.

Prior, I was triple stacking Serah's Ice BSB with Alphi+Rains+Edward (my only Ice BSB other than Snow...but let's be honest that one isn't going to do any damage) and doing it from there.

Now, Squall just goes to town once it's up, with Serah providing secondary DPS.

I also just discovered that once you get 3 stacks or whatever, you can just spam CMD 2 until the burst runs out? LMAO....Having Squall fully dived makes up for not getting Bartz's Chicken Knife.
 
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SOLDIER

Member
Worst fucking pull by far. Only got Kuja’s guise and a dupe Bardiche for Garland. Should’ve just rolled the select burst one. Hope they give us another 30 mythril.
 
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Man Called Aerodynamics

Member
First try mastery. Raines BSB just shredded this chump.

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Tidd

Member
Shadow Dragon would be a joke without his stupid instant K.O. attack... he does nearly no damage with wall + proshellga + resist darkness accessories. But I have to waste a character slot for Galuf so he doesn't kill 2 characters.
 
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WarAdept

Member
Officer.Sanchez said:
I'm sick of farming Fenrir and his bullshit Savage Withering Winds.

5 wing raptors and 3 Enkidus to go.
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I hate this fucker. SWW already has a fairly low chance to slow, and everyone has moderate Slow Resist.

Motherfucker still manages to slow more often than not.

Also doesn't help my time on him is ~32 secs and I'm super frustrated that I can't go under sub 30.
 
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WarAdept

Member
Before VI left, I did one last desperate attempt at Shadow USB...

And I got x2 Shadow USB and Shadow's BSB in return!

First go! This shit is broken af.

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zerokoolpsx

Member
Cleared the Crystal Tower on Normal. Then I look at hard. I might not have enough units to complete the 5 do unlock the last boss. Some of them aren't even at level 80.
 
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evangd007

Member
Sea Lion down. All hail Bartz.

Had a near perfect run on Bismark. 32s. I don't see a solid avenue to reduce that time any further. Lightning is already hitting max damage on her USB and Twinstrike.
 
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Starwolf_UK

Member
Decided to try and beat Hydra now that I have a third en-Earth BSB. Managed to champion but one KOd party member and 1 minute 6 second clear.

Team was Tifa (it's en-earth), Bartz (decent BSB3 or maybe that is the +30% earth RM talking), Maria (~20k damage with meltdown we can probably do better), OK (VoF healing and occasional chain stonga) and Yshtola (dived SSB+BSB, from previous runs I felt I need proshelga and the hi regen was okay too).

To be honest I wonder how Sephiroph BSB1 CMD1 would do compared to Tifa or Maria.

So that leaves three; Golem (Amph. USB + possible Fujin BSB), Fenrir (erm Serah BSB :( ) and Sealion (I tried this a long time ago, didn't have Imperil then).
 
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Falk

that puzzling face
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Larsa: Curaja/Entrust/MM (BSB - unused, essentially entrusts Cid then goes offhealing)
Cid Rains: Memento/Unused/40%Vuln (BSB/Dive - main, BSB entry tops out at 9800/hit, CMD1 at ~6500)
Yuna: Ultra Cure/Shellga/Ace (USB - any healer will do probably)
Exdeath: Memento/Dark Zone/THUNDER GOD'S MIGHT (SSB MAG/RES buff, off-DPS - 9999x2 Dark Zones)
Tyro: Ultima Weapon/Entrust/DMT (Wall - probably could have swapped out Ultima Weapon for something that does more damage, mine has 2 casts lol)

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Nicked it before Mist

I also swapped out Exdeath for CoD+BSB - it's a lot riskier without the extra layer of RES but Radiant Shield makes it die faster.

edit: Oh, should mention - I got two Phantoms pretty fast off Shadow Dragon which makes an awesome main magicite. The rest of it is a smattering of Dark+, Holy- and Ice- (turns out tunneling the shit out of Sea Lion for Ice Orbs was unexpectedly extra-beneficial)

edit2: This is really, really carried by Raines BSB since the other stuff is very much interchangeable. Considering I had 4 different MAG buffs I went with Dark+ weapons/armor over 200MAG stat sticks.
 
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MrDaravon

Member
Finally added a section on my personal spreadsheet for the game listing out all of my elemental/Imperils etc to get ready to do the Magicite Dungeons finally. Without trying to make this post too long can any experts who have already done and are familiar with the dungeons help me pick what to choose for my free relic on the mythril CT pull, as well as the gem CT pull which I'm now debating on doing (especially if Raines is that baller for the MD's).

I'm going to mostly only list BSB+'s for the sake of trying to make this semi-readable, but I'll include some SSBs mostly for Imperils/en purposes or if it's noteworthy in some other way (like if it pairs well with a BSB I have), but I'm not going to list say Mog's Earth SSB, Hope's Holy SSB or Marach's Fire SSB. That said, the notable elemental stuff I have:


enDark: Gabranth SSB, Gaffgarion BSB
Imperil Dark: Rufus SSB
Dark SBs: Rufus SSB, Sephiroth OSB, Edea BSB, Kuja OSB, Gabranth BSB, Gaffgarion BSB

enEarth: Maria BSB, Rydia BSB
Imperil Earth: Nothing
Earth SBs: Maria BSB/OSB, Rydia BSB, Bartz USB

enFire: Terra SSB, Steiner BSB
Imperil Fire: Locke BSB, Steiner SSB, Thancred BSB
Fire SBs: Krile OSB, Bartz USB, Locke BSB, Terra SSB/OSB, Sephiroth OSB, Steiner BSB, Thancred BSB

enHoly: Cecil USB, Basch BSB, Minfilia BSB, Agrias SSB
Imperil Holy: Edward BSB, Beatrix BSB
Holy SBs: Ceodore BSB, Cecil USB, Edward BSB, Locke BSB, Celes BSB2, Beatrix BSB, Curilla SSB/BSB, Basch BSB, Minfilia BSB, Agrias SSB/OSB, Ramza BSB1

enIce: Edea BSB, Lulu SSB
Imperil Ice: Laguna SSB
Ice SBs: Celes BSB2, Edea BSB, Laguna SSB, Lulu SSB

enLightning: Reno BSB, Raijin BSB, Lightning BSB2/USB
Imperil Lightning: Laguna BSB, Lightning BSB2
Lightning SBs: Reno BSB, Laguna BSB, Raijin BSB, Ashe BSB Lightning SSB/BSB2/OSB/USB, Rapha BSB

enPoison: Quistis BSB
Imperil Poison: Nothing
Poison SBs: Quistis BSB/OSB

enWater: Edge BSB, Gogo (V) BSB, Paine SSB
Imperil Water: Nothing
Water SBs: Edge BSB, Gogo (V) BSB, Bartz USB, Paine SSB

enWind: Fuijin SSB, Fang SSB, Alphinaud BSB
Imperil Wind: Faris SSB, Zack BSB
Wind SBs: Bartz USB, Cloud OSB, Zack BSB, Fuijin SSB, Freya BSB, Alphinaud BSB


So what would be my best options to choose for the relic on both of the CT banners? On the mythril banner I only have Aerith, Beatrix and Yuna relics. It seems like my best options would be maybe: Sarah, Fuijin, Larsa, Vanille or Y'shtola which are all medicas except Fuijin which I know is supposed to be good, and I think pairs well with her SSB that I do have? In terms of Medicas as a point of comparison right now my "best" medicas are Relm BSB (which is my only Last Stand source outside of Minifilia SSB so I usually use her) along with maybe Penelo USB. I technically have Medicas in all realms but 11, but a lot of them are questionable such as I only have Y'shtola's Cura medica for FF14. Also my only stock/bubble/whatever Medica is Yuna's SSB, so Y'shtola's BSB is appealing here?

For the relic selection on the gem draw my default inclination is to say Raines based on how good he apparently is, but I'm open to suggestions. At a quick glance the others that stick out to me are maybe Sephiroth BSB (this is the future-proof one IIRC?), Papalymo (I have his SSB and I think I have all of the other Maria clones, but don't know that I need more Fire options?), Agrias (waifu purposes plus I have her SSB/OSB, but I likely wouldn't do this since I have so much other Holy stuff), or maybe one of the FF11 options? My only FF11 relics are Lion USB and Curilla SSB/BSB, I'm not sure if maybe Lion's BSB would work well with her USB, or if it's worth grabbing Shantotto's BSB or something? Also maybe worth noting I have zero Chain SBs.
 
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Falk

that puzzling face
Instinctively would say Yshtola and Raines BSBs would get the most mileage but there are a lot of other factors too.

Any status blinks?
 
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MrDaravon

Member
Falk said:
Instinctively would say Yshtola and Raines BSBs would get the most mileage but there are a lot of other factors too.

Any status blinks?
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Nope. Have a good chunk of magic/physical blinks but no status ones which IIRC is the main reason Larsa's is highly rated. I also understand the argument for Sarah's BSB but I have a lot of Magic Blinks including Rosa, Selphie and Ovelia SSBs which aren't bursts, but if you just want to talk in terms of a Healer having a M.Blink that novelty is already kind of lost on me.

Another factor to consider is that I have Y'shtola's Wall which to my understanding is not needed in the Magicite Dungeons (?) but would probably be a solid backup option outside of MD's to have. I guess to put it another way what I'm more or less looking at now is it worth it to get Y'shtola's BSB at the cost of Fujin's BSB and swapping out Relm which means I lose Last Stand, which is probably the only reason I'm using Relm right now instead of say Penelo's USB or whatever. My only other source of Last Stand is Minifilla's SSB, and I also have her BSB so she's a solid character for me, but not usually in my A-Team unless I'm looking for Holy. Last Stand has saved my bacon for sure, but Y'shtola's bubble might make that not as relevant. So still really leaning towards Y'shtola as well.

The Gem draw I think probably the only other real things I'm not sure about is the FF11 stuff. Papalymo is tempting but I already have a lot of decent Fire options so it's probably not worth taking his over Raines.
 
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WarAdept

Member
MrDaravon said:
Nope. Have a good chunk of magic/physical blinks but no status ones which IIRC is the main reason Larsa's is highly rated. I also understand the argument for Sarah's BSB but I have a lot of Magic Blinks including Rosa, Selphie and Ovelia SSBs which aren't bursts, but if you just want to talk in terms of a Healer having a M.Blink that novelty is already kind of lost on me.

Another factor to consider is that I have Y'shtola's Wall which to my understanding is not needed in the Magicite Dungeons (?) but would probably be a solid backup option outside of MD's to have. I guess to put it another way what I'm more or less looking at now is it worth it to get Y'shtola's BSB at the cost of Fujin's BSB and swapping out Relm which means I lose Last Stand, which is probably the only reason I'm using Relm right now instead of say Penelo's USB or whatever. My only other source of Last Stand is Minifilla's SSB, and I also have her BSB so she's a solid character for me, but not usually in my A-Team unless I'm looking for Holy. Last Stand has saved my bacon for sure, but Y'shtola's bubble might make that not as relevant. So still really leaning towards Y'shtola as well.

The Gem draw I think probably the only other real things I'm not sure about is the FF11 stuff. Papalymo is tempting but I already have a lot of decent Fire options so it's probably not worth taking his over Raines.
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Native Wall isn't needed for Magicite Dungeons until you finish all of them (and get the option to RW a 2nd different buff).

Having a quick glance at your list of SB's, the selects I'd probably go for is XI or to patch up weaker synergy realms.

You have Cloud's USB, and if you've managed to collect all the 6* crystal mats so far, you can brute force all Magicites with Omega Drive. (assuming you haven't used the crystals for other 6* abilities).

MrDaravon said:
Kuja OSB
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Highlighting this because this has the potential to be special. With a fully Legend Dived Kuja and his LMR, he becomes a top 10 DPS character (alongside a highly honed MM + DZ).

That being said...chasing for one relic never ends well.
 
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MrDaravon

Member
WarAdept said:
Native Wall isn't needed for Magicite Dungeons until you finish all of them (and get the option to RW a 2nd different buff).

Having a quick glance at your list of SB's, the selects I'd probably go for is XI or to patch up weaker synergy realms.

You have Cloud's USB, and if you've managed to collect all the 6* crystal mats so far, you can brute force all Magicites with Omega Drive. (assuming you haven't used the crystals for other 6* abilities).



Highlighting this because this has the potential to be special. With a fully Legend Dived Kuja and his LMR, he becomes a top 10 DPS character (alongside a highly honed MM + DZ).

That being said...chasing for one relic never ends well.
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I have Cloud's OSB, not his USB sadly :(. Also good to know about Kuja, but not sure I'm really inclined to chase that at all, but I'll keep it in mind in case that comes up.

If I went for a FF11 relic what's the one you'd recommend? I've got Curilla's but that's it. Does Lion's BSB synergize well with her USB maybe? Her USB seems pretty good but probably not worth using her just for that.
 
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WarAdept

Member
MrDaravon said:
I have Cloud's OSB, not his USB sadly :(. Also good to know about Kuja, but not sure I'm really inclined to chase that at all, but I'll keep it in mind in case that comes up.

If I went for a FF11 relic what's the one you'd recommend? I've got Curilla's but that's it. Does Lion's BSB synergize well with her USB maybe? Her USB seems pretty good but probably not worth using her just for that.
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Whoops my bad. Fail reading on my part.

Her USB isn't particularly special, considering the abilities she can use sans Lifesiphon all have reduced cast time (Celerity/Thief/Ninja).

Also her BSB is Instant Cast with reduced cast time Commands. It's a carbon copy of Vaan's, except it reduced ATK instead of MAG. So while it would make Lion a debuff stacking machine with her USB and BSB, it makes the other worthwhile effect of the USB (non-charge 2) redundant.

Ayame's BSB remains one of the few BSB's to survive powercreep, due to how self sufficient it is. Contested only by Squall's BSB2, she can reach soft cap all on her own with it on Mage teams and she also has a great LD if you are so inclined for that.

Can't go wrong with either really. But if you were to take a XI relic, Ayame > Lion.
 
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