Oh crap, I think it was the opposite so their worst decision was to accept it : )
Final Fantasy VII Remake is a multi-part series
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Oh crap, I think it was the opposite so their worst decision was to accept it : )
Deckard Chapel
Banned
I meant instead of making us wait to play each installment - just finish the entire game and package all of it in one, ready to play experience multiple discs and all.
Waiting sucks.
You'd still be waiting a long, long time to play the full thing. Please tell me what the difference is.
BibiMaghoo
Member
I know, but they are never going to look at the 'instead of' and only see the 'as well' if you get me. Any mitigating financial incentive will just be used to make more money instead. It's like asking them if they want an apple or an orange, and they say both. They will just take the lot.
There isn't any difference.
If they released Part 1 and it was a good amount of game, in say 2 years vs waiting lets say 5+ years for the entire thing, I'd rather take it in installments.
To be honest it's FF7 I'll buy it regardless ¬_¬
Either way you're waiting for them to make the entire game which is the same if it's split or if it's complete.
damn that's nice
Junior Member
I'm willing to pay for multiple entries.
I don't have a problem with this. I'm curious how retail will handle it. Buy each release separately, I suppose? Swapping discs like it's 1997? I can see that.
I like the look of the battle system, and I don't mind too much about the episodic nature. I guess if I want my true to the source FF7, I can always buy the PS4 release.
I like the look of the battle system, and I don't mind too much about the episodic nature. I guess if I want my true to the source FF7, I can always buy the PS4 release.
Darkangel
Member
Japanmanx3
Member
Tom Nook
Member
Oh God....
Part 2 will begin with "Previously on Final Fantasy VII...." which show clips from the 1st game because it might be release a year later after part 1.
NavyPharaoh
Member
I don't have a problem with this if done right. But it's Square-Enix, they'll probably fuck it up
Deckard Chapel
Banned
Not having to wait an unnecessarily long time when changing discs.
I'd rather wait to have the complete package rather than feel the agonizing pain of waiting to play the next disc because it's not out yet and wont be for a long time.
Oh God....
Part 2 will begin with "Previously on Final Fantasy VII...." which show clips from the 1st game because it might be release a year later after part 1.
Our only hope is that SE puts the episodic FF7R on a tight release schedule. I really don't want to wait 1-2 years between story chunks. Then we run into a Half-Life 2 issue where we have to wait years between releases. At least the story in this case is done, but long breaks between would be terrible. One every six months would be preferable.
RealityCheque
Banned
Oh Square, never change.
Technically, yes, it's possible. But that doesn't mean the development team working on this title can.
I consider myself realistic here. Unless S-E lets crystal dynamics handle FFVIIRE or FFXV, both games are going to get delayed, and delayed again, released underwhelming lacking straight forward features like these because they were 'too hard'.
TalentBurke
Member
You're dreaming. If the releases were going to be so close with each other(1 every six months) there wouldn't a need to release the game in multiple parts.
Spehornoob
Member
I'm actually surprised at how far in development the game seems. We got a good amount of gameplay and some voice acting in that trailer.
I wonder if switching engines could really help some of their development issues.
I wonder if switching engines could really help some of their development issues.
Shifty1897
Member
The sad truth is that the success of Life is Strange probably inspired Square Enix to do an episodic structure to FFVII. I'm frustrated that this is happening but I'm not in denial about it.
No one is not going to purchase FFVII part 1 if it reviews well.
No one is not going to purchase FFVII part 1 if it reviews well.
DaSorcerer7
Member
The year of dreams ends with a nightmare.
I don't understand. You know you don't have to buy the parts separately right? You can buy the full package when it's completed instead, right?
Tell me you understand this concept.
Vincent Grayson
Member
People and they conspiracies and lack of patience.
There is just one question do you want to wait until 2022 for the whole game or do you want it maybe by the end of 2016/early 2017 then one chapter a year until maybe 4 or 5 chapters finish the story?
Do you understand the scope of the game you want and the developer that is doing it? Or do you guys just want it know, and exact 1 to 1 remake of this game in the scope of what they've shown in less that 3 years. Come one people be reasonable and realistic about this.
I guess he just wants to wait till 2020 for the whole package while complaining that they are taking too long.
There is just one question do you want to wait until 2022 for the whole game or do you want it maybe by the end of 2016/early 2017 then one chapter a year until maybe 4 or 5 chapters finish the story?
Do you understand the scope of the game you want and the developer that is doing it? Or do you guys just want it know, and exact 1 to 1 remake of this game in the scope of what they've shown in less that 3 years. Come one people be reasonable and realistic about this.
I guess he just wants to wait till 2020 for the whole package while complaining that they are taking too long.
That's why it's preferable, but reality will be closer to 1-2 years between each for probably 10-12 hour chunks. The six months between episodes vs just holding back only works anyway to meet the anniversary date.
World map
World Map with Airship
Pretty much exactly as it was in FF7, except the world map has both visible (and thus avoidable) encounters in addition to random ones. It is everything people are saying cannot be done today, and it came out on PS4 in March.
I see your point but I'm hoping for fidelity like Witcher 3 or even FFXV to match trailer graphics.
I don't see highwind gameplay possible in this circumstance.
Thabass
Member
"But mom, I don't wanna wait!"
flintstryker
Banned
This is exactly the kinda remake I wanted and was expecting I never saw the point in converting a game built entirely for a different perspective into full 3D
Oh God....
Part 2 will begin with "Previously on Final Fantasy VII...." which show clips from the 1st game because it might be release a year later after part 1.
Pat 2 will begin with your characters inside the Inn at Kalm. Cloud tells everyone the story of the Nibelheim incident. The cutscene ends and you can move around, buy some stuff, admire the town, etc.
Then, when you try to leave the town you get a menu.
"Do you want to depart to the Chocobo Farm?"
*Yes
*No.
You choose yes, and the screen fades to black.
When it fades in again, you are at the Chocobo Farm.
You try to leave, but the game won't allow you to.
"You cannot leave without a Chocobo!"
You rent a Chocobo from the Chocobo Farm (You can do it in this version), and then you try to leave again.
"Do you want to depart to the swamp?"
*Yes
*No
You choose yes, the screen fades to black.
It fades in again, your characters have already crossed the swamp. Tifa mentions how hard it was to outrun the Midgar Zolom even with a Chocobo.
Canis lupus
Member
Disappointing, damped my hype quite a bit. Just hope they don't spread it too thin, I don't wanna buy a disc with 4-5 hour worth of content.
3 discs, 10-12 hour content, 3-6 month cycle would be bearable.
3 discs, 10-12 hour content, 3-6 month cycle would be bearable.
ShadowSoldier89
Member
when you scale things, it doesnt have to match the fidelity of the rest of the game. You create a nice illusion
I see your point but I'm hoping for fidelity like Witcher 3 or even FFXV to match trailer graphics.
I don't see highwind gameplay possible in this circumstance.
That't what I'm thinking. I 'm sure seeing the trailers and how FFXV is turning out that what they want to achieve is this. If the were to just do a whole overworld with scaled characters just higher resolution, like usually JRPGS do, then it could work. But not doing the whole world on a 1 to 1 scale.
The way I see it, people who hate the remake being episodic would be fine waiting a year or more for a full game to begin with, which would be the same timeframe as waiting for all the episodes to come out (hopefully). People who don't mind will be able to get their fix earlier. So if you don't like this idea, wait for every episode to have come out THEN play it. You'll be waiting for the same time you'd be asking to wait anyway.
bumpkin
Member
This made me chuckle.
Seriously though, I hope the releases aren't more than six months apart and they don't price gouge the fuck out of us.
Angry Fork
Member
$180 + tax for full FF7 remake incoming.
Vicetrailia
Banned
This makes the game much less attractive to me. There is pretty much zero chance that I'll be playing this game in its episodic entirety. I'm just not on board.
Kor of Memory
Member
I can't imagine they'll do less than 3 discs/episodes, but at the same time I can't think of 2 good stopping points in the series.
The original disc separation points don't work here.
The original disc separation points don't work here.
BibiMaghoo
Member
I see your point but I'm hoping for fidelity like Witcher 3 or even FFXV to match trailer graphics.
I don't see highwind gameplay possible in this circumstance.
And you would be correct. The world map can never look like that. There is a great middle ground though were the style remains the same but the textures and such are really high quality, landscape has trees and grass rather than just scattered forrests etc. It would be great and eliminate the need to go back to the drawing board entirely.
I doubt it'll be $60 though which is understandable, else there would be little reason to release it in parts. FFXV has taken over 10 years in the oven but isn't episodic. I'm anticipating each part to be fully priced but the question is how many parts will there be?
There must a maximum of 5, and a minimum of 3, in my opinion.
FFVIIR-1 - Midgar
FFVIIR-2 - Aerith 's death
FFVIIR-3 - Cloud Vs. Sephiroth
Each for $60, and I'm perfectly fine with that. Then afterwards as you say a collection will be released for like $99 or something. It could work, but the question now is on how it is executed.
I think you're right and realistically that is what we are going to get. I'm just hoping it comes off right and captures that artistic style the original did. It seems FFXV has been a nightmare and it's something they may not want to go through again, but then again the remake is Unreal Engine 4. I really can't picture how it will look. Maybe a higher resolution version of the original and random encounters? I don't know.
Worth noting: there's all this talk of revamping and reimagining. Shifting things around to fit a three-feature deal, if indeed it's three games they're after, would logically follow.
What I don't understand is that they are doing this to themselves. Of course remaking the entire game in a scale 3d environment would be insane.
I had just assumed they where going to make new high res 2d backgrounds and better models for each scale, re-render all the cutscenes and call it a day.
I had just assumed they where going to make new high res 2d backgrounds and better models for each scale, re-render all the cutscenes and call it a day.
paragonpro
Banned
Im fine with this if it
Means we can play some form of this game in a year or two as opposed to 6
Means we can play some form of this game in a year or two as opposed to 6
Yeh, minimum of 3 and a maximum of 5 parts seems true. Midgar looks to be a logical part one, but I'm not sure about the remainder.
SoundPulse
Banned
I guess they should have been more upfront with it, but I'm ultimately fine with it. A full scope remake of FFVII at the trailer's fidelity would have been an impossibly large product to ship as a single release in anything resembling a reasonable time frame. If these release fairly regularly with a decent price to content ratio, then I'm perfectly alright with it.
I would probably predict the first part to be the Midgar section.
The original end of the first disc is probably going to be another stopping point.
It really just depends on what they want to do. I'm not really expecting these to be huge chunks like the original CDs were.
I would probably predict the first part to be the Midgar section.
The original end of the first disc is probably going to be another stopping point.
It really just depends on what they want to do. I'm not really expecting these to be huge chunks like the original CDs were.