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Final Fantasy XII The Zodiac Age |OT| You Had One Job!
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Isnt she his mum
She left the village to be with cid
ArkhamFantasy
Member
Beat yiazmet, his KO thing is cheap but addle and wither made the fight pretty easy.
lmao, I never considered that possibility. Guess I'll have to re-examine all the evidence now.
Apple Turnover
Banned
lolwut...no
My opinion is that Balthier and Fran may have had a fling here and there, but for the most part are close friends and comrades.
Yabberwocky
Member
In ye olde Esper query for Cúchulainn and Zodiark -
re: Cu-cu-ca-chu, he gives Firaga/Thunderga/Blizzardga/Sleepga to a Red Mage, and Protectga and Shellga to Shikari. My WM/MCH will have Protectga/Shellga, and my BM/MNK will also get Protectga/Shellga via Chaos. As far as I can see, the -ga spells should definitely be the priority, as only my BM/MNK will have them otherwise, even though there are some -ra spells spread out throughout the party. This is probably a stupid question, now that I think about it, but Protect/Shell can be quite useful. Outside a few espers and some hunts, FFXII isn't that hard, but I guess I was trying to be prepared for the harder levels of the trials.
I was conflicted what to do with Zodiark, and am down to Ashe (KNI/TM) and Penelo (BM/MNK). Penelo gets Renew, and I must have already unlocked Ashe's Zodiark extras via a quickening. If I want better survivability for the summoner (Zodiark seems quite important for the trials?), I would have thought Ashe to be the better of the two? She's also has a lot more white magic in general for healing.
Hilariously, Ashe has just also ended up with a ton of Espers, lawd. She does get a lot of benefit out of them, though.
Also, the funniest moment in the game is Penelo reacting to Al-Cid kneeling to take Ashe's hand - Penelo gasps, jumps a little, and covers her mouth in shock. (She definitely has a stash of romance novels.) The level of detail in character animations continues to astound - there's a moment when Ashe is thinking, and you can see her eyes flicking from side to side. There's been some great facial expressions from Balthier, Vaan, and Al-Cid along the way, ditto to the judges and Vayne.I'd forgotten how great the character design was for the judges without their helmets. So good.
but Balthier made jokes about tying Fran up nooooo
i will never again feel cleaaannnn
re: Cu-cu-ca-chu, he gives Firaga/Thunderga/Blizzardga/Sleepga to a Red Mage, and Protectga and Shellga to Shikari. My WM/MCH will have Protectga/Shellga, and my BM/MNK will also get Protectga/Shellga via Chaos. As far as I can see, the -ga spells should definitely be the priority, as only my BM/MNK will have them otherwise, even though there are some -ra spells spread out throughout the party. This is probably a stupid question, now that I think about it, but Protect/Shell can be quite useful. Outside a few espers and some hunts, FFXII isn't that hard, but I guess I was trying to be prepared for the harder levels of the trials.
I was conflicted what to do with Zodiark, and am down to Ashe (KNI/TM) and Penelo (BM/MNK). Penelo gets Renew, and I must have already unlocked Ashe's Zodiark extras via a quickening. If I want better survivability for the summoner (Zodiark seems quite important for the trials?), I would have thought Ashe to be the better of the two? She's also has a lot more white magic in general for healing.
Hilariously, Ashe has just also ended up with a ton of Espers, lawd. She does get a lot of benefit out of them, though.
Also, the funniest moment in the game is Penelo reacting to Al-Cid kneeling to take Ashe's hand - Penelo gasps, jumps a little, and covers her mouth in shock. (She definitely has a stash of romance novels.) The level of detail in character animations continues to astound - there's a moment when Ashe is thinking, and you can see her eyes flicking from side to side. There's been some great facial expressions from Balthier, Vaan, and Al-Cid along the way, ditto to the judges and Vayne.I'd forgotten how great the character design was for the judges without their helmets. So good.
but Balthier made jokes about tying Fran up nooooo
i will never again feel cleaaannnn
Dark Link
Member
Raw damage wise probably not, but defensive wise it's much better.
KyanMehwulfe
Member
wat
Wither - Pharos Subterra, Abyssal - North. Large circular room in the northwest quadrant.
Addle - Henne Mines, Special Charter Shaft. First left on the path from the entrance midway through the first long hidden corridor.
Both are 10% spawns so you'll probably need to reenter several times.
clay_ghost
Member
This is now my head Canon.
Ravage_Hydra
Member
I must say the summons are pretty boring. Ultima is the only interesting one
Best design
Faster in attacking then the others
final attack is a 9/10
imho
Best design
Faster in attacking then the others
final attack is a 9/10
imho
Megawarrior
Member
I think I was lvl 35 or so at that point and beat him in 1 minute. I gained 10 lvls grinding those 2 t rexes in the estersand for ONE tyrant bones. ☹
I always asummed they become lovers in the end. I mean,
in the credit you can see a picture of them together and Fran pinching Balthiers hand for jokingly groping her
ArkhamFantasy
Member
Its not a great feeling spending hours to get to trial 100 just to figure out that you need disease and dont have any way of inflicting it.
SkylineRKR
Member
Yeah and i can confirm that just opening the door in Abyssal north counts as re-enter. Still took me 30 ish tries.
Addle is a pain. You have to run all the way back past the zodiac spear area. There is also a possible ribbon northeast of Addle at a small dead end.
semiconscious
Member
for me, the last, & hardest to get, technick. so many damn tries to finally spawn the fucker!
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SkylineRKR
Member
I honestly don't get why those abilities are in RNG chests that are located in super tough optional areas to begin with.
I understand Zodiac Spear, its very powerful and can be received as sidequest reward also. If you don't want to do the Quest, then you can try your luck getting a 1% chest to spawn. Zodiac shield is sort of the same, though it would fit for being a 100% Hell Wyrm reward also. Its one of the toughest and last enemies in the game. Now its like, beat boss and then zone in and out for an hour.
For addle and Wither RNG is the only way. Only reason I can think of is that they're game breaking.
Doesn't explain cleanse. Disease fucking sucks and Serum vendors are semi hidden (airships only?).
I understand Zodiac Spear, its very powerful and can be received as sidequest reward also. If you don't want to do the Quest, then you can try your luck getting a 1% chest to spawn. Zodiac shield is sort of the same, though it would fit for being a 100% Hell Wyrm reward also. Its one of the toughest and last enemies in the game. Now its like, beat boss and then zone in and out for an hour.
For addle and Wither RNG is the only way. Only reason I can think of is that they're game breaking.
Doesn't explain cleanse. Disease fucking sucks and Serum vendors are semi hidden (airships only?).
2 days??? Say it isn't so...I spent a few hours trying to get this trophy last night. No luck yet.
Is there any purpose in holding R2 during a quickening ( as opposed to tapping R2)?
Well when I hold R2 to reshuffle, sometimes I miss a open quickening but then again when I tap, i'm too slow to get anything before time runs out. Trophy is 90% luck, 10% skill.
MugiwaraCole
Member
Trying to steal Orichalcum from Vishno...this is not fun.
badcrumble
Member
Man, I love how this game is so happy to just let you get in over your head and die if you get too arrogant.
Not the best idea. Just kill Deidars at Pharos (13% drop with the scholar monograph).
Prioritize mist charges when you get a chance and maybe start with charges 1 and 2. I hold R2 and mash all three action buttons when there are no open options but there could be better techniques for that and keep in mind how many charges the characters have left.
With that the odds will be a bit more in your favour.
LukeSkywater
Banned
Are Han Solo and Chewbacca lovers?
MugiwaraCole
Member
Weird. Not one of them dropped it for me. Hmm.
How do you get to Pithead junction c in Henne Mines? Trying to power level, but can't remember how I got in on the OG release.
Phew...FINALLY got a Black Hole and then the Mist Walker trophy. I had a 22 chain for the black hole, where my max chain before that was about 14.
Mostly luck, although I did try your suggestion of holding R2 and mashing buttons when no options were available. I only had to do this twice, so it was mostly luck of having mist charges show up. Previously, I had tried to remember who had mist charge left and hold R2 and mash that character's button. It was too difficult to track who had charge left as the chain went on. So I ended up mashing square/X with my thumb (easier than hitting all 3 buttons).
Just the Bestiary and 100th level of Trial Mode trophies left for Platinum now!
I really don't like the difficulty curve in this game. The main story is piss easy, but the side content is often way too hard if you try to do it as soon as it's available. At the same time it's often out of your way which makes it a pain to come back to, but if you wait too long you end up overleveled and steamroll everything.
Not a fan of how bosses decide to fuck around with the rules either, especially the summons.
The only fight that felt tense but didn't devolve into an annoying parade of various fuckery so far is the Ancient Man of Mystery.
Not a fan of how bosses decide to fuck around with the rules either, especially the summons.
Fuck you Ultima.
The only fight that felt tense but didn't devolve into an annoying parade of various fuckery so far is the Ancient Man of Mystery.
There's an icon just below the navi map on top right corner saying MP will deplete in the stage.
ArkhamFantasy
Member
There's several stages where your HP or MP will continue to drain the entire fight, or they'll prevent you from attacking/magic/technique/item. Just keep an eye on the top right corner at the start of every stage.
I did around 4 runs in the two areas they spawn for 2 Orihalcum just the other day. Took around 15-20 minutes.
You need 10 espers and talk to the geomancer in Jahara to get deeper into the mines from ore seperation.
MugiwaraCole
Member
Ten of them shits? Sheesh. Feels like I had almost instant access last time...ahh well. Thanks.
Guess I need to go esper hunting. And maybe figure out which ones I'm strong enough to get first lmao
The Hamburglar
Banned
Where is cleanse
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNWOw6LnTgI
Cerobi Steppe
20-25% chance to spawn, but when it does it should be Cleanse no matter what.
Jinfash
needs 2 extra inches
I'm running the same thing (mainly because I like Balthier with guns) despite him being the slowest with them.
Guns do a fixed amount of damage that ignore defense, but extremely slow so unless you need to hit a flying-type enemy I recommend equipping him with spears in late game especially if you plan on grabbing the Zodiac Spear.
semiconscious
Member
not just 10 espers! you also have to do the 2 jahara hunts (mindflayer, cantoblepas). i had 12 espers & it still wouldn't unlock till i'd done both of those hunts
...MugiwaraCole
Member
not just 10 espers! you also have to do the 2 jahara hunts (mindflayer, cantoblepas). i had 12 espers & it still wouldn't unlock till i'd done both of those hunts
Pretty sure I did both of them already. Think I have 6 espers, so I need to get 4. Not so bad. Probably be what I do tomorrow.
Gots my platinum! Could've gotten through the final boss without having to press a single button if it hadn't been for some cheap insta-kill move near the end lol. I didn't remember
Unfortunately I've only seen The Force Awakens so I don't feel qualified to fully evaluate the nature of that relationship.
Vayne's final form being so badass.
Unfortunately I've only seen The Force Awakens so I don't feel qualified to fully evaluate the nature of that relationship.
MugiwaraCole
Member
Wait, they drop it after you kill them? Or is it a poached item? Seeing conflicting claims for that.
Apple Turnover
Banned
I got them as a regular drop. I did have all monographs, if that affects it for them
Jinfash
needs 2 extra inches
Yeah, I'm completely forgot about the damage calculation of guns and zodiac spear.
Thank you!
Fix The Scientist
Member
I've always championed FFXII as the perfect example of how SE need to approach making modern FF games, after waiting a long time to replay this i have to say it wasn't quite as good as i remembered... It lacks a bit of charm. Still infinitely better than X and XIII though. The post-game content really grabbed me, i only have the bestiary trophy left to get the platinum but i'm not sure it's worth forcing myself through some of that tedium.