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Final Fantasy XIII PC |OT| Lightning must not be forgotten
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threelights
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To be honest, my play sessions are around 30mins at a time, the game is throwing story at me way too fast, I wouldn't mind a relatively long
(and pretty)
Also, yeah, l'Cie and fal'Cie and Cie'th are pretty different from Type-0, and it's weird, I like the way Tabata did more than here, yet the setting here is way better than Type-0, so I don't know which I like more. Combat is starting to pick up now, so I can see myself liking this more than Type-0, we'll see, I hope for clever boss fights.
Ganon Dragmire
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threelights
Member
Just started Chapter 3.
Sazh is, of course, the very best (I'd say if he gets any cooler he goes to demi-Balthier levels of goodness).
And there's one line from Vanille that really made me interested in her
(when she says that Snow is all talk when she first meets him)
Otherwise, I don't "hate" anyone, I think it's because there's no stereotype that I hate, so for me to dislike a character they have to be poorly delivered, and even Snow and Hope are pretty decent on delivering so far (delivering motivations/personality wise, not dialogue/writing).
Rats Off To Ya
Banned
It makes sense that the story seems overwhelming to you if you're still this early. Those first few hours are pretty rough from a storytelling standpoint, and this is coming from someone who loves the game. It certainly becomes much more focused and less obtrusive the further you get.
Sazh is great. But he's not the best. You haven't met Fang yet.
Vanille is a really interesting character. I'd say she's easily the most complex of the bunch, but a lot of people dismiss her out of hand because they find her voice annoying.
Ganon Dragmire
Member
Cool. When you reach one of those bosses that punch your face so fast that you don't know what hit you: Don't panic and adjust your Paradigms. haha (you might have to make a new deck.)
"Boopin' and Weavin'"
threelights
Member
Yeah, someone said the game starts slowing down for quite a while now, I might actually enjoy that, I want me some practice on that ATB refresh (which I pulled off once on my first try \o\)It makes sense that the story seems overwhelming to you if you're still this early. Those first few hours are pretty rough from a storytelling standpoint, and this is coming from someone who loves the game. It certainly becomes much more focused and less obtrusive the further you get.
Sazh is great. But he's not the best. You haven't met Fang yet.
Vanille is a really interesting character. I'd say she's easily the most complex of the bunch, but a lot of people dismiss her out of hand because they find her voice annoying.
I'm looking forward to Fang too, I want to see if she is as cool as Sazh, so far she just strikes me as a Lulu-type character (not a bad thing).
Yup =P, I haven't been using auto-battle at all either, since I want to learn how to use every ability. Even controlling just Lightning, it can get pretty confusing what is going on on screen, I love it, one of the main reasons of why I love Dissidia is those crazy battles.
The best. The goddamn best. Sazh and Balthier are the type of characters every game should have.
Ganon Dragmire
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Dissidia is awesome. It's one SE's best fanservice/spin-off FF games.
threelights
Member
I know, it's my favorite "non tradicional" fighting game. If Square put more budget there it could be an actual big fighting game. Too bad the story sucks, they should just pull Street Fighter levels of BS in that, it would be awesome.
Where's my PS4 Dissidia Square? X_X
Her US voice makes me want to tear out my ears.
Her Japanese voice is amazing. Perfectly compliments Maaya Sakamoto's role so far.
PepsimanVsJoe
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Just reached Chapter 10.
Curious though. What's the best determinate for end of battle rank?
I got zero stars from Bart. Guess I took too long or something. =/
Curious though. What's the best determinate for end of battle rank?
I got zero stars from Bart. Guess I took too long or something. =/
Another interesting part with the translation. The whole scene Vanille/Sazh at the station. Sazh's is more or less on point but Vanille's is strange. She's obviously a lot more shocked/hurt at what Sazh is saying in the Japanese audio than she is in the english translation. At this point, the subtitles don't really match up with how she's animated either, it was quite funny reading
Vanille being slightly down/trying to hide her secret to all of a sudden her running out, crying and using the rain to hide her tears.
Rats Off To Ya
Banned
That's one of my favorite scenes in the game, and the way you describe it, it's exactly because of the change they made for the English version.
She's trying not to betray her true feelings, and doing a decent job at it, but she can't act away her tears.
It makes sense that the story seems overwhelming to you if you're still this early. Those first few hours are pretty rough from a storytelling standpoint, and this is coming from someone who loves the game. It certainly becomes much more focused and less obtrusive the further you get.
Sazh is great. But he's not the best. You haven't met Fang yet.
Vanille is a really interesting character. I'd say she's easily the most complex of the bunch, but a lot of people dismiss her out of hand because they find her voice annoying.
You know what's most funny thing about Vanille, how people jump onto Vanille hate train because of her VA and looks, to the point that they dismiss everything she says and does. In this thread alone there were some ridiculous posts about her, that are unfounded and nonsensical.
I wouldn't say lazy, they've taken the effort to localise the translation where it would have just been easier to do a literal translation. The differences are just odd. e.g in the same scene, in the japanese audio that typical "you'll catch a cold/it's alright, I'm an idiot" card is played. So many people would have been lost at that alone, but they took the effort to change that to something like "Are you crazy?", "It's just rain".
Nevadatan
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whats with the boss battles, yee-zus!
i got to the bulbasaur in the Gapra Whitewood, and holy molly... and its not like the boss is too hard. actually seems pretty easy. but hell, the battle goes on and on and on and on and on. i feel like beating the four kings on NG+6, the battle takes forever.. i even summoned odin and only chew a pixel from the boss health bar.
i actually hit ESC in the middle of the battle because i got bored (and need some sleep)
i got to the bulbasaur in the Gapra Whitewood, and holy molly... and its not like the boss is too hard. actually seems pretty easy. but hell, the battle goes on and on and on and on and on. i feel like beating the four kings on NG+6, the battle takes forever.. i even summoned odin and only chew a pixel from the boss health bar.
i actually hit ESC in the middle of the battle because i got bored (and need some sleep)
ah, fits him perfectly.
ya, ranks are defined by how fast you kill foes, but it is a bit more complex than that, because more strong you are, faster you have to kill to get highest rank.
Ganon Dragmire
Member
I remember playing this game the first time. After a gameing session, i had to take a minute to adjust my eyes to reality after looking at so much pretty stuff. haha
Rats Off To Ya
Banned
She looks great in super-HD.
I'm never gonna reach Fang. I keep restarting the game when I find some settings I'm happier with. I just did Chapter 1 for the fourth time since this game came out. >_>
Ganon Dragmire
Member
Damn.
Kazdane
Member
In this playthough (it's like my 4th) I've decided to 5-star every boss and record it (previously I 3 or 4-starred a few fights, never got any 20 minute fights though).
The boss
was actually sillier than I remembered, both in execution and AI behavior. The key to make that battle super quick is to actually (don't unspoil it if you don't want to know boss tactics)
.
Now the next boss is
and I've already made Sazh learn Haste (which I usually got grinding before the last boss of Chapter 9).
The boss
Havoc Skytank
use Lightning as COM and input manually the Attack command (assuming your Lightning has more attack power than magic power). She can take each part down in 4 turns, but the funny thing is that Fang and Hope rather than support you, will actually switch to another target, so it goes down even quicker
Now the next boss is
Midlight reaper
She looks great in super-HD.
I'm never gonna reach Fang. I keep restarting the game when I find some settings I'm happier with. I just did Chapter 1 for the fourth time since this game came out. >_>
I might as well restart too if SE patch the game. A rock-solid 60fps would be so good!
Too late. :/
lordfuzzybutt
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Thing is even at 720p this game is still really gorgeous.god damn this area man
can't thank durante enough for his work, can't imagine playing this at 720p, fucking SE
What's wrong with Light?
More like what's good about her. I still have no clue ;(
She punches Snow in like her first scene with him.
oh c'mon, she's angry, moody, silent most of the time, not much talk kickass warrior with the dark past. What's bad about her? (><)
she's just into beating everyone, as it's more effective than talk, we all know that
True, forgot about that. Lightning redeemed then.
I also liked when she slapped Fang for some reason. We need a buddy movie/game with those two.
I like how she got her shit together by herself (though partially by looking at Hope) and is willing to admit her mistakes. She's a decent enough characters it's just the writing is bad in FFXIII and the voice acting is pretty cringy as well (though this partially attributed due to bad writing).
Spoilers.
Raitningz said:
I could type more, but still. I just feel most people don't understand her character. Like "Why do you like her?" "She's cool, stoic, and badass". "Mai Waifu bla bla". Well okay, you can like her for that, but I will think you didn't quite get it. I disagree with a lot of Lightning fans for this, though I will not deny that she is extremely, extremely physically attractive and I have fixated all kinds of romantic and carnal desires in my life on her.
She's strong... and weak. Not to say she has a fluffy interior, but she's very scared actually. She's hurt, guilty, grey, she has mistakes, she deals with them. She's also kind of altruistic.
Yep. Hope is important to her character development.
This is a negative for me lol. I hate Snow as much as anyone else but Light punching him just shouts "I'm a whiny, immature bitch" to me. Or something.
Fuck you Toriyama.
Dude, there are people who think Hope is a genuinely good character. Your opinions are mild as HECK
xBladeM6x
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That's a bridge too far for me. Lol
I don't hate him as everyone seems to, so your opinion is a little less controversial now.
I only had problems with Lightning and Hope during my first playthrough, but I got over it, I just think of them as funny diversions this time around, I would like Lightning and Hope to rage even more, truth to be told (><)
I'm pretty sure that FF13-2 had something to do with it, though
Stay back you sickening spawn of satan
Okay yeah, the characters are already fucked so why not go all the way and make the super SUPER obnoxious. For shits and giggles. Could be pretty hilarious, I admit.
True, he was much better in XIII-2.
Haha, I heard that Nomura was against
Hope growing up in XIII-2, and he was so against it he drew a sketch of Adult!Hope just to show them why it wouldn't work out, but it backfired because they liked it.
Given he's a teenage boy who just saw his mother being gunned down
Certainly better than Shinji Ikari.
Well him being distraught isn't really surprising. However, his hate against Snow to the point of wanting to kill him was just misguided and never made any sense. No matter how distraught or young he is.
Based Nomura lol
My mother was
verbally
of words
(=sarcastic, obnoxious teenage me)
She didn't die though. Nor get hurt. Actually, I think I was just being a fucking cunt. Not unlike Hope, I guess. Maybe I hate Hope so much cause he reminds me of.. Myself.
I need some time alone with a rope and a hangman's noose tying tutorial.
I laughed so hard at this, no offense :lol:
The rest of your post I actually agree with so far, but I still don't see why it would grant her a so high popularity because I feel characters like this are pretty common and often better portayed.
Problem is, those are male most of the time and I really have trouble imagining people would analyze her and love her that much if she was male.
It's not just Lightning either, it happens all the time, but I wonder how different some people's opinions about a character would be if they weren't attracted to it.
oh naw you didn't!
Shinji is perfect disturbed by reality, couldn't cope with requirements put on him, scared for his life kid. It's psychology!
While Hope is unreasonable, shy for no reason, getting on our bad side kid, not to mention that he dies in battle if anybody as much as sneezes on him.
Shinji is pitiful, while Hope is annoying!
That's really the flaw with his character up until the end of chapter 7, if you disregard his desire to kill Snow the rest of his character writing made a decent bit of sense considering what any kid who had lost their own mother would feel like.
Corrected your typo.
Hope hasn't been so annoying so far (start of chapter 4). My opinion on him might still change.
there was no wikipedia when Shinji was created! (><)
I wondered too. Truth be told, I probably wouldn't have liked her so much if she wasn't so pretty. Can you imagine Lightning in a book described with "Spiky, wispy rose-colored hair"?
But in my defense I scoffed and thought she looked like a man back in 2006, it was only until 2011 when I 'met' her again in Dissidia, and I was enthralled by her(without having seen the CGI, just the low-poly model.)
Then she became my life. I won't joke about the waifu thing, it's way more serious than that