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Final Fantasy XIII PC |OT| Lightning must not be forgotten
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Basically once you start getting more spells (likely after the crystal lake area), you'll start getting a lot of drops in battle whenever your characters cast spells, and they often drop to 30 and go back up (with vsync off), no matter the resolution and graphic settings,so it becomes a bit annoying.
I just tried it and the game performs the same.
BONKERS
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I set shadow resolution to 512, and AA to 2x on a 570, I don't even come close to peaking at 99% GPU usage with a GTX 570 at 3200x1800 or low resolution and still have crap performance
http://i2.minus.com/iXVFaaPKaI8De.jpg
http://i2.minus.com/iXVFaaPKaI8De.jpg
.Well, the game really isn't intensive on your card in all honesty. So it could be that, but it also could be that your card is downclocking because the game is so un-intensive(I had this issue). Check the power settings in Nvidia CP and/or Windows Power Settings to make sure it's set to performance and not power saving or whatever.
Dead Prince
Banned
did the update break the DS4 controller? the control mapping is off. or did i use gedosato to map it.. can't remember.
Using an AMD notebook video card. Power settings should all be set to "Maximum performance".
Same problem as before with GeDoSaTo.
FullScreen 1080p/2160p (whatever higher than 720p), game runs with bad fps.
Borderless FullScreen higher than 720p, game runs at 60 almost all the time.
In fact, it's even worse now, in FullScreen I have plenty of tearing.
Why didn't SE managed to get some of the guys in charge of FFXIV to port these games?
FullScreen 1080p/2160p (whatever higher than 720p), game runs with bad fps.
Borderless FullScreen higher than 720p, game runs at 60 almost all the time.
In fact, it's even worse now, in FullScreen I have plenty of tearing.
Why didn't SE managed to get some of the guys in charge of FFXIV to port these games?
Maybe when Lightning Returns comes out we'll get a decent patch.
Wolf Akela
Member
So what are the new graphics options aside from resolutions?
R10Neymarfan
Member
I just think it's the engine. This just shows even Crystal Tools runs horrendous on PC
Someone said it even has the 1440p bug lol
Edit: There's even a thread about the issue and another one about how to fix it with a custom 2559x1440 resolution.
That would be beyond amazing!
I did a quick (~20min) test on 1080p and 16x AA and according to fraps my 750ti is running it at constant 60 fps during battles now too. The only moment it drops is during loading screens/battle transitions but never during gameplay (well sometimes fraps says 58 or 59 instead of 60 but I can't notice anything weird on the image itself so idk).
I'm not trying to dismiss anyone problems though, but it works for me.
I'm not trying to dismiss anyone problems though, but it works for me.
They should add your name on the credits.
Tizoc
Member
well I using steam broadcast at the time but when itwas off and I wasn't broadcasting, it ran at a smooth 60 FPS.
Ask them to let you fix the framerate pls.
By the way yes when I saw those options I instantly thought about GeDoSaTo lol.
Oh man I wish I could play like that. What videocard do you have?
Will GeDoSaTo ovverride itself?
Can't they see what's the bottleneck in their engine and fix it? Shouldn't have they made debug tools while they were developing the engine?
I don't even know how to respond, lol
760gtx, game isn't really demanding but framerate fluctuates a lot for no reason
Those hard drops to 30 look like vsync. Have you tried using borderless fullscreen?
Thats how I played FFXIII and still got such drops in battles.
Oh, that's too bad then.
I haven't touched the game myself.
It's probably some weird alpha issue if magic and such is the main problem.
Two videos I made showing the framerate drops. Framerate counter in upper left corner. Be sure to watch in higher quality.
In battle:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFfKfnqOJMs
Out of battle:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrUAipq4cd4
Settings are 1080p, x4 AA, 1024 x 1024.
PC specs are:
i7 3770
GTX 660Ti
8GB ram
Win 8.1
In battle:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFfKfnqOJMs
Out of battle:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrUAipq4cd4
Settings are 1080p, x4 AA, 1024 x 1024.
PC specs are:
i7 3770
GTX 660Ti
8GB ram
Win 8.1
I don't think there's any doubt whatsoever that the UI elements display code has some kind of framepacing built into them. Whenever they disappear (paradigm shift, or end of battle) the framerate jumps back up to 60 momentarily. Very very obvious in those videos.
What's actually bizarre at this point though is that other people are (reportedly) getting 60 constant even with the UI. How is that possible if the game itself is framepacing? Or is that bit of unwanted code not functioning as intended (lol)
What's actually bizarre at this point though is that other people are (reportedly) getting 60 constant even with the UI. How is that possible if the game itself is framepacing? Or is that bit of unwanted code not functioning as intended (lol)
This should really be brought up more. That's extremely lazy.
BONKERS
Member
See my video link and my own screenshots. No card downclocking what so ever. The port is just utter horse shit and they expect us to lie down and take this? They aren't getting a cent of my money for any game on PC until this crap is fixed. I was thinking about playing some more FFXIV again, but fuck that.
This is a FIRST PARTY, AAA release. And this is what they think is ACCEPTABLE? What am I kidding, these same people thought that running Final Fantasy IV at a locked 15FPS in battle was *OK*
It's like they literally just look at the CVARs from the functions in GeDoSaTo and said "ok, just add those in the menu, add basic shitty bilinear upscaling (Which is sadly better than point still) and call it a day! HURR"
That's not true. FFXIV 1.0 ran fine at max settings, 4xMSAA @60FPS @1600x900 on just a GTX 460 at the time. That game WAS horribly optimized though and you needed a decent card for playability.
Dragon Quest X's benchmark runs just fine in all the testing i've done. Which also runs on Crystal Tools. The only conceivable reason this could suck so hard is that they fucked up something because it's seemingly ported over from the JPN 360 version.
Doubtful. The original unpatched ran with 4xMSAA by default.
I think there's been enough evidence time and time again that it's something within the code for displaying battle UI which is framepacing (or choking, or whatever you want to call it) to 30fps. That and the game not using multi cores and/or GPU to their full extent. Two separate issues.
Again, reiterating that majority of people who are getting 60fps with 30fps fluctuations are getting those 30fps dips when the combat UI is displayed. In fact, videos over in the XIII-2 OT show this very clearly, where paradigm shifting makes the FPS jump to 60 momentarily since the UI disappears for a second.
edit: Getting my threads mixed up. Aforementioned videos are a few posts up actually.
The game barely works for me anymore. Even though I select fullscreen on 2560*1440, it runs at 20 fps on a borderless fullscreen mode and the shadows are terrible.
This port is an absolute mess, and there's no reason it took them so long to release such a small fix...
edit: Even when I start it in 1920*1080 on a windows the maximum framerate is 30 and as soon as something happens it's locked at 20. It thought the game wasn't locked at 30 fps? Also V-sync probably locks it at 20. Very useful on my g-sync monitor.
edit: With the same settings, fullscreen 2560*1440, FF 13-2 runs in 720p between 9 and 12 fps during the introduction battle...
I have a GTX 770, does anyone else have a smiliar issue?
This port is an absolute mess, and there's no reason it took them so long to release such a small fix...
edit: Even when I start it in 1920*1080 on a windows the maximum framerate is 30 and as soon as something happens it's locked at 20. It thought the game wasn't locked at 30 fps? Also V-sync probably locks it at 20. Very useful on my g-sync monitor.
edit: With the same settings, fullscreen 2560*1440, FF 13-2 runs in 720p between 9 and 12 fps during the introduction battle...
I have a GTX 770, does anyone else have a smiliar issue?
Well i've tried everything, and the drops are still there.
I'm wondering if there are really people who are getting steady 60fps? I've read quite a few posts about it on multiple threads and I'm still wondering if that's really possible or people are just not noticing the quick drops. If it's the former than surely there's a way to make it better? Obviously some areas are better, and some worse, but generally if there are certain spells and effects, it will cause the slow down for me, and it's pretty consistent, but there are a few that seems to get consistent framerate within combat.
I'm wondering if there are really people who are getting steady 60fps? I've read quite a few posts about it on multiple threads and I'm still wondering if that's really possible or people are just not noticing the quick drops. If it's the former than surely there's a way to make it better? Obviously some areas are better, and some worse, but generally if there are certain spells and effects, it will cause the slow down for me, and it's pretty consistent, but there are a few that seems to get consistent framerate within combat.
This game, I started playing it again as I want it off my SSD. Chapter 9,
How in the flying fuck can you interpret that from just the cutscenes and dialogue? Jesus.
There's a bug with 1440p.
apparently the whole thing where the team boards the Paramecia to free Vanille and Sazh was a trap by Dysely.
There's a bug with 1440p.
BONKERS
Member
I get tons of microstuttering even outside of battle. Watch my video, look at the frametimes, they are ridiculous. The game always seems to sit between 58-59 constantly going back and forth. Never 60.
And when it does dip in battle, mine dips into the 40s. Probably because it's not dipping long enough for the frame counters to show 30FPS
There is even microstuttering during FMVs FFS
However, if I cap to 30 with RTSS and set 1/2 Refresh rate. Performance is finally stable. But that doesn't do shit for anything but 30FPS. AND it increases load times by a very large margin. At 60FPS game loads in under 10 Seconds on a mechanical drive. Capped to 30FPS it takes north of a minute