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At least the PS3 users get the PS4 version for free.

Wishful thinking no?

 

[Kintaro]

Won't even take two years, IMO.

At least the PS3 users get the PS4 version for free.

Will not matter. For the entire life of this game, it will have to be designed around the PS3.

 

[GraveRobberX]

At least the PS3 users get the PS4 version for free.

Wait WHAT?

Source please

 

[Dog food is delicious]

Wishful thinking no?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I was under the impression that it was true.

I could be very wrong.

 

[Chrisness]

Do you put your computer in the closet when you're done using it or something?

I have an ultra portable laptop that's not made for gaming.

 

[Khrno]

We're talking about the importance of voice chat. You pretty much always have the option to voice chat on PC. You don't have that option on the PS3. Couple that with your many other anti-console comments, and I don't understand where your confusion is coming from.

Maybe you can't even read? In this day and age there there's many devices at hand for people to do voice chat even if they are not playing on PC. Maybe you don't know of laptops or tablets? How is my solution to have voice chat while playing on PS3, an anti-console comment?

To prevent any further confusion caused by all this non-sense comments you are directing to me, I'm just going to put you on the ignore list.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I was under the impression that it was true.

I could be very wrong.

It's not confirmed yet, but that's what SE are trying to do, but they need Sony's consent since the game would be on the PSN store, etc.

 

[Dog food is delicious]

It's not confirmed yet, but that's what SE are trying to do, but they need Sony's consent since the game would be on the PSN store, etc.

Thanks. I thought I had read it somewhere credible but then everyone else made me wonder if I was misreading something.

 

[Lavalamp1138]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I was under the impression that it was true.

I could be very wrong.

It's likely that PS3 players will get some sort of discount to upgrade, but they didn't flat-out say it'd be free.

 

[MoonLightWave]

In two years we all are going to hate the fact this game was on ps3. I already do to be honest. PS2 limited XI and PS3 will limit this game. It probably already has. :'(

Will not matter. For the entire life of this game, it will have to be designed around the PS3.

I will hate it so much . Hopefully it won't limit the game too much.

 

[Dog food is delicious]

I will hate it so much . Hopefully it won't limit the game too much.

It did on FFXI because of the PS2.

 

[Razgriz-Specter]

That was my main in DCUO as well. I imagine that term was coined in WoW... streamlining all the support type classes into doing one thing.

Does FFXIV even have such a class? All I see is tank, healer and dps.

It wasn't all that bad but once I started going for pure Vit stats, I had like no health/defense left.

 

[WolvenOne]

Except for perhaps environment size, it shouldn't limit things too much. The gap between PC's and the PS3, is a whole lot smaller than the gap than the gap between PC's and the PS2. I'm not talking in terms of power of course, more, in terms of how each platform tends to approach the creation of their visuals.

 

[Kandinsky]

Will not matter. For the entire life of this game, it will have to be designed around the PS3.

At least it's a PS3 and not a Wii

Spoiler

still would take DQX over this any day

 

[Korezo]

It did on FFXI because of the PS2.

They already said stuff like different animations for races were limited becuase of ps3, or something around those lines. I expect to see tons of identicle weapons and armors just like ffxi.

 

[WolvenOne]

They already said stuff like different animations for races were limited becuase of ps3, or something around those lines. I expect to see tons of identicle weapons and armors just like ffxi.

Gonna call for a citation on that. Not because I don't believe you, but rather because I'd like to see their own words, to see if I can possibly discern what the limiting factor is.

 

[Midou]

The game is most certainly not limited by the PS3... it's certainly one of the best looking games on PC. Only the PS4 will be capable of running it close to max running on PC.

 

[Dog food is delicious]

Gonna call for a citation on that. Not because I don't believe you, but rather because I'd like to see their own words, to see if I can possibly discern what the limiting factor is.

Please add a list that shows what monster is attacking which party member.

Continuing to Discuss

Since there is too much information being displayed for the PS3 version, we don't plan on adding this as-is, but we will continue to look into it.

I'd really like to see more than one page of my inventory at a time.

Continuing to Discuss

We are continuing to look into this, but due to issues because of PS3 icon display memory as well as gamepad mode control user friendliness this is extremely difficult.

That's just mentioning PS3 specifically by name. There are very many other posts about limitations that don't mention PS3 specifically.

 

[Fvash]

Except for perhaps environment size, it shouldn't limit things too much.

This.

I don't get the PS3 Doom Speak: besides zone size, what exactly will be the limitation? Come PS4 and DX11 client, we'll be running the game on basically a different engine, able to do whatever-the-hell with graphics over and above PS3. What gameplay is bottlenecked by PS3?

That's just mentioning PS3 specifically by name. There are very many other posts about limitations that don't mention PS3 specifically.

So: UI

 

[WolvenOne]

That's just mentioning PS3 specifically by name. There are very many other posts about limitations that don't mention PS3 specifically.

Wait, is my memory off, or weren't they showing which monsters were attacking which party members in the PC version already?

 

[Dog food is delicious]

Wait, is my memory off, or weren't they showing which monsters were attacking which party members in the PC version already?

I only remember seeing that when I target the mob or player and it shows the other on the end of the HP bar.

 

[WolvenOne]

I only remember seeing that when I target the mob or player and it shows the other on the end of the HP bar.

What I recall is seeing monster names next to character names. Though, perhaps that only applied to my character. Hard to say, seeing as its been awhile since the last beta ended, and I wasn't paying particularly close attention at that time.

 

[Augemitbutter]

This.

I don't get the PS3 Doom Speak: besides zone size, what exactly will be the limitation? Come PS4 and DX11 client, we'll be running the game on basically a different engine, able to do whatever-the-hell with graphics over and above PS3. What gameplay is bottlenecked by PS3?



So: UI

even zone size talk is bogus. PS3 can limit what's visible any time.

 

[Khrno]

The PS3 limiting factor is memory size, that's why I hope with the PS4 (and even DX11 client) they change the UI a bit. It doesn't really matter if there's 2 different UIs in the game, as far as the gameplay is not affected then the lower settings (both PS3 and PC) shouldn't hold back higher systems.

 

[SoraanTribal]

"PS2 Limitations" was always the long-running joke about FFXI. Gonna be fun seeing that said about the PS3 later on in the lifespan of the game. Maybe it won't be too bad this time, though.

 

[Dog food is delicious]

One of the things I wish they'd do is put the zone name over the zone line ala FFXII.

 

[Khrno]

One of the things I wish they'd do is put the zone name over the zone line ala FFXII.

Should suggest this on the beta forums. You're probably not the only one that has thought about it, but it never hurts to ask.

 

[WolvenOne]

The PS3 limiting factor is memory size, that's why I hope with the PS4 (and even DX11 client) they change the UI a bit. It doesn't really matter if there's 2 different UIs in the game, as far as the gameplay is not affected then the lower settings (both PS3 and PC) shouldn't hold back higher systems.

So, I take it the beta clients so far, haven't been Direct X 11? What X are they upto?

 

[Khrno]

The game is build on DX9, the DX11 client will probably the same as the PS4 version.

 

[WolvenOne]

The game is build on DX9, the DX11 client will probably the same as the PS4 version.

Ah, good! Should see a lot of subtle improvements in the PC build at that time.

 

[Road]

Would I be missing out on much if I played this game on PS3? I don't really want to lug out my desktop to play a game that I could play on my already set up console.

You'll need to ask the same question tomorrow.

3rd time is the charm

 

[Varna]

Didn't we already not have chat bubbles because of the PS3 version?

 

[Chrisness]

You'll need to ask the same question tomorrow.

3rd time is the charm

I got many more answers the 2nd time. Your point is?

 

[Khrno]

I got many more answers the 2nd time. Your point is?

His point is that you might get even more answers the third time.

 

[Unknown Soldier]

One of the things I wish they'd do is put the zone name over the zone line ala FFXII.

This has been suggested numerous times. It was in FFXII so I don't get why it's not in FFXIV.

 

[BananasWithGuns]

Is anyone aware of a method to transfer gil and items across two of your own characters on the same server?

It seems like the mail/delivery system completely prevents this but I'm curious if the market boards would work as a way to circumvent the system.

I dunno, just seems like a strange design decision to not be able to mail items or gil to an alt when the primary incentive to even have one would be as a secondary source of storage.

 

[Taruranto]

This has been suggested numerous times. It was in FFXII so I don't get why it's not in FFXIV.

I'm not against it, but i hope they'll put an option to turn it on/off, if they ever do it.

Spoiler

Immersion Breaking

Is anyone aware of a method to transfer gil and items across two of your own characters on the same server?

It seems like the mail/delivery system completely prevents this but I'm curious if the market boards would work as a way to circumvent the system.

I dunno, just seems like a strange design decision to not be able to mail items or gil to an alt when the primary incentive to even have one would be as a secondary source of storage.

Give it to someone and then that someone will give it back to you? Anyway, alt/mules don't seem necessary in this XIV, unlike XI.

 

[Relaxed Muscle]

PS3 limitations are, mainly, memory avaliable or the RAM to be more precise. It's something that even devs from SP had to deal with (ME3 not having holster animation comes to mind).

We know that animations and the size of the maps are the more limiting factors. Still what they did with 512MB is quite an achivement.

 

[SoraanTribal]

Did anyone happen to save those leaked images from the .dat files recently? Like the stuff showing off Siren, the new weapons and armor, enemies, etc? All the imgur links to have it since been removed. Was wanting to show my friend some of them.

EDIT: Nevermind, I found a working link.

 

[theSlacker]

In two years we all are going to hate the fact this game was on ps3. I already do to be honest. PS2 limited XI and PS3 will limit this game. It probably already has. :'(

Correct. I know I already do.

Except for perhaps environment size, it shouldn't limit things too much. The gap between PC's and the PS3, is a whole lot smaller than the gap than the gap between PC's and the PS2. I'm not talking in terms of power of course, more, in terms of how each platform tends to approach the creation of their visuals.

What makes the current tiny environment size a small problem? That is a major big deal to me. The needing loading between the zones is another. Because of the ps3 their choices were the copy pasted shitfest from 1.0, or the small closed off world of ARR. Both are terrible and anyone that defends either should feel bad.

 

[Ferrio]

Weren't they going to release a character maker? I wanna work on my character's design

 

[Xux]

Weren't they going to release a character maker? I wanna work on my character's design

Comes out on the first.

 

[LowParry]

Weren't they going to release a character maker? I wanna work on my character's design

Aug. 1st.

 

[Chie Satonaka]

So, I'm a 1.0 CE owner.

I don't get early access, but I do get the digital CE goods at no additional charge.

Can I go and preorder a normal edition and use that preorder code for the preorder bonus goods and early access, while still also getting the 2.0 CE goods? I'm just wondering if it's going to cancel out the 2.0 stuff if I do. I want to be there on the 20th.

 

[WolvenOne]

Correct. I know I already do.



What makes the current tiny environment size a small problem? That is a major big deal to me. The needing loading between the zones is another. Because of the ps3 their choices were the copy pasted shitfest from 1.0, or the small closed off world of ARR. Both are terrible and anyone that defends either should feel bad.

Because even on a Chocobo it takes several minutes to go from one end and area to another. When I finally do, it only takes about ten seconds to load the new area.

So i simply dont have much oppertunity to notice.

 

[Xux]

So, I'm a 1.0 CE owner.

I don't get early access, but I do get the digital CE goods at no additional charge.

Can I go and preorder a normal edition and use that preorder code for the preorder bonus goods and early access, while still also getting the 2.0 CE goods? I'm just wondering if it's going to cancel out the 2.0 stuff if I do. I want to be there on the 20th.

Yeah, it'll work; the pre-order code is separate from the game and CE game registration code.

 

[Boss Man]

Is that guy who had an interview with the development team still around? Would really like to see how that went or when to expect it.

 

[Chie Satonaka]

Yeah, it'll work; the pre-order code is separate from the game and CE game registration code.

Thank you so much!

Gonna preorder a normal edition first thing tomorrow.

 

[theSlacker]

Because even on a Chocobo it takes several minutes to go from one end and area to another. When I finally do, it only takes about ten seconds to load the new area.

So i simply dont have much oppertunity to notice.

Look. I don't really want to call you out or anything, but do you play mmorpgs often? A minute to cross a zone is...pathetic. Made even more so when it is a direct guided path. This is a genre that it is normal to have bigger open world without much loading, even in games from a literal decade ago. To expect the same out of a game that you plan on spending a long long time in isn't asking too much, it's asking the norm. I've said this a lot, I understand the reasons why they had to make the choices that they did, but that doesn't mean I like them, and they will continue to be limiting factor on this game for it's entire lifespan.

Also, it is fine if the problem doesn't bother you directly. Just don't downplay the significance that the gameworld plays in this type of game.

 

[Xux]

Thank you so much!

Gonna preorder a normal edition first thing tomorrow.

You can preorder the PS3 version and register it to the 30 days free play period after early access instead of the two weeks other returning players get.

 

[WolvenOne]

Look. I don't really want to call you out or anything, but do you play mmorpgs often? A minute to cross a zone is...pathetic. Made even more so when it is a direct guided path. This is a genre that it is normal to have bigger open world without much loading, even in games from a literal decade ago. To expect the same out of a game that you plan on spending a long long time in isn't asking too much, it's asking the norm. I've said this a lot, I understand the reasons why they had to make the choices that they did, but that doesn't mean I like them, and they will continue to be limiting factor on this game for it's entire lifespan.

Also, it is fine if the problem doesn't bother you directly. Just don't downplay the significance that the gameworld plays in this type of game.

"Several," minutes, on a mount, and no these aren't direct guided paths you cannot deviate from. Look, I get really annoyed when people intentionally misinterpret what I'm saying, so just don't.