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[Sevyne]

Lost Actions would have been perfectly fine if they were simply unlockables and not limited supply consumables (the reason I think many didn't bother with good ones). I think having the potions be limited was fine though. I also thought the weight capacity for carrying actions/pots was enough of a limitation and perfectly fine.

Regardless of what they could have done with them, they were far better than that crap with logograms/logos actions and combining nonsense.

Think of how many Castrum/Delubrum/Dalriada runs were longer than they should have been because dummies didn't bring the right Actions. Ugh.

Haha! You ain't wrong about that. However it was really neat to go in those dummy runs even as a job like MCH and just pop something like Deep Essence of the Beast, Lost Assassination, and Banner of Noble Ends/Honored Sacrifice, Auto-Potion, Reraiser. Phys Ranged face tank everything (mostly self sustaining) and still crap all over their dps lol. You could combo better for a little more dps, but I hard carried so many runs like that. That and getting queued into Dalriada with only 1 or 2 people and being like, "fuck it, we ball" and clearing anyway.

 

[Valonquar]

Only things I have left in OC are 4k more chests , and too many pot fates & bunnies to think about. Very disappointing overall. Forked tower is just a total slog. It takes TEN full clears to get full +2, more likely 30 1st boss clears give or take. There is ZERO loot unique to farm in Tower outside of upgrades you only need to farm tower more efficiently. You can buy the 3 minions/2 music scrolls off AH, the mount already comes from reg chests outside, and that's mostly it. Not sure why the fuck anyone would run it 100 clears when you only need 70 for full +2 on all.

 

[Revolutionary]

Letter from the Producer LIVE Part LXXXVII Airs Friday, June 20 | FINAL FANTASY XIV, The Lodestone

Letter from the Producer LIVE Part LXXXVII Airs Friday, June 20

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【Part One】

• Addressing Player Feedback on Cosmic Exploration and the Occult Crescent

【Part Two】

• Patch 7.3 Part 1
• Miscellaneous Updates

Looks like Yoshi-P is going to spend some time on Friday addressing feedback on Occult Crescent. Some people were hoping that today's maintenance would bring some adjustments to entering Forked Tower but it's too short of a time span for this dev team to implement changes of that scale.

I haven't even tried entering FT because I've seen how it can take hours to get the entire alliance in the same instance. aintnobodygottimeforthat.gif
It was simpler to do so in Hydatos because those instances were capped at 144 people, as opposed to OC being capped at half that.

 

[Valonquar]

Another grind complete.

I haven't been able to get into tower yet... spent all day in queue on ABBA discord and nothin. Maybe this weekend.

 

[Revolutionary]

It only took 6 years of development but they finally did it. Viera and Hrothgar can finally wear visible hats.

 

[Sevyne]

The excuse of budget for no normal and savage Forked Tower is kind of shit imo. So their solution was to only do a savage one and appeal to the minority. Ok, great allocation of budget for what will now just be dead content instead of continuously active and flexible like the Bozja stuff.

Also sucks that they can't see that only having 1 FATE and 1 CE up at any given point is kind of shit and also part of why the FATEs die so fast in OC. Single trains were a thing in Bozja, but you at least had the choice to hit up other FATEs if you wanted to. OC is just a single endless hunt train basically.

The amount of cuts made from previous zones to make OC is kind of mind boggling. Couldn't be bothered for duels as well, which would have been forgiven had everything else landed well and didn't get skimped out on.

Only positive I got out of that LL were the hats, and that should have been done years ago.

 

[Valonquar]

Yoshida these days:

 

[Celcius]

yeah I wish there was an easy Forked Tower for those of us who just want to complete it for the experience
the mount isn't even cool like BA

 

[Valonquar]

After a few runs that only did boss 1 and wiped at boss 2, I randomly ended up in a clear group I didn't realize was a clear group. Got all the way to the final boss, but ran out of rezzes and the group wiped on him anyhow. Afterward they were all pissy about me having not cleared before and I was like FFS I just joined because people in voice of last group said they were joining that group and I followed. Boss 2 seems like the worst of the bunch, though final boss is also harsh. I had gotten +1 for tank but it seems like it's actually easier to get in groups as DPS (since more slots avail) so working on +1 set for that now.

 

[Celcius]

Looks like the next relic weapon step will be 7.31 instead of 7.3... I think I'm going to just wait for that before resubbing.
It will be interesting to see the end of the dawntrail storyline though and find out what's coming next...

 

[Zephyranthes]

7.2 was a solid patch overall, hopefully the conclusion of the Alexandria story will be satisfying. Interested to see if Calyx's role in the story is completely wrapped up in 7.3 or if he's going to hang around into the next expac.

 

[Revolutionary]

New census is out. Drop of ~70k (7%) players in 2 months, despite the addition of content that was supposed to attract and retain returning players (OC, relics)


Don't think 7.3 will fare much better since it's just the conclusion to an unpopular storyline and the next alliance raid.

 

[Sevyne]

New census is out. Drop of ~70k (7%) players in 2 months, despite the addition of content that was supposed to attract and retain returning players (OC, relics)


Don't think 7.3 will fare much better since it's just the conclusion to an unpopular storyline and the next alliance raid.

Oh for sure. The drop is going to be something for 7.3. Nobody gives a shit about deep dungeon and the little addition they made to it isn't going to change that. The whole deep dungeon system needed a complete rework into something else entirely.

 

[Zephyranthes]

New census is out. Drop of ~70k (7%) players in 2 months, despite the addition of content that was supposed to attract and retain returning players (OC, relics)

Don't think 7.3 will fare much better since it's just the conclusion to an unpopular storyline and the next alliance raid.

I think people tend to underestimate how much value FFXIV players put on the quality of the story, because it is not usually very important in the context of an MMO relative to the breadth of multiplayer content like dungeons/raids. The sharp drop in story quality with Dawntrail soured a lot of people on the game, and the active player trends are reflecting that.

 

[Valonquar]

1 new dungeon and 1 new trial (2nd crafter planet \ deep dungeon month+ later) sure as fuck isnt going to keep people around for another 6 months.

 

[Revolutionary]

They really squandered the opportunity to try something new with Dawntrail, and instead just fell back on the expansion formula they established with Heavensward 10 years ago.

My pie-in-the-sky dream for XIV is that they do away with the decade-old MSQ formula completely and pivot into something more like FFXI, where the map is dangerous and exciting to explore again. Basically, I want them to turn every map into exploratory zones with content to grind and discover (dungeons, hunts, NMs, trials, story, etc) so that there's actual MMO content on day one of an expansion launch.

As it stands, most of the zones are just a waste of space and effort. They've been touting how the graphics update has allowed them to make bigger maps with more objects but it almost feels pointless because most people don't interact with the zones outside of MSQ.